(1) denver nuggets (8) miami heat 2023 nba finals ft the joker and mommy butler

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nugs are historically fine? they have an all time winning pct slightly over .500, they were only really bad in the 90s

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:01 (one year ago) link

iirc home court advantage has decreased a lot recently

Sure, but the that might be true for the Nuggets HCA too.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

yeah they've been decent for a while but I still think that home court split is pretty significant

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:28 (one year ago) link

imo kinda hard to judge the degree to which denver has a special home court advantage nowadays vs the degree to which they have the 2 time MVP who never misses games on their team

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link

it makes sense that altitude especially if you’re just flying in and out would have some effect. but there’s a pretty big fly in the ointment here

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:47 (one year ago) link

speaking as someone who has spent some time in colorado when you come into 5k ft denver from sea level you dont really notice the altitude, until you try to do some exercise and then you definitely notice it, and theres also an advantage for denver going the other way in that if you train at altitude you have more endurance at sea level

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

isn't that like a Dragonball Z plotline or something

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

training/living at high elevation then competing at sea level is why kenya produces so many of the top long distance runners in the world

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

amongst other reasons, its a pretty fascinating situation, if you find running interesting lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

AFTER THE NUGGETS finished 23-18 at home during the 2021-22 season with Murray out with a knee injury, general manager Calvin Booth had a staff member research what the competitive advantage is from playing at elevation and how the Nuggets can exploit it both physically and mentally.

Understanding that exercising at elevation can lead to symptoms of nausea, fatigue and cognitive impairment for those not acclimated, the Nuggets wanted to see when they could strategically push the pace and identify lineups that can play faster to maximize potentially the most influential home-court factor in the league.

"All the teams I've been on, essentially you're definitely going to feel it in the first couple minutes," Booth, who played 10 seasons in the NBA, told ESPN. "Typically, you get your second wind pretty quickly and you stop thinking about it. But now in a high-intensity environment like the playoffs, maybe late in the game it starts to affect you a little bit more."

Booth also wanted to examine how other pro and college teams that play at altitude try to get into the heads of opponents.

By halfway through this season, the Nuggets had devoted the majority of their allotted 30 seconds designated for introducing the opponent's starting lineup to their altitude warning. (It has forced Speller to go through the opponents' starting five as if he is competing in a speed reading contest.)

Speller will also slip an ominous-sounding "5,280 feet" during breaks in the game like he did during one coaching challenge in the fourth quarter of Game 1 of the conference finals.

"He just drops that in kind of subliminally when you can tell a guy is getting a little tired [or] made a bad pass," Craig Dzaman, Nuggets senior director of game presentation, told ESPN.

Don't know if this really makes a difference but it's pretty funny

symsymsym, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

a good chunk of elite american endurance athletes live in boulder, when i lived there itd be funny to be out running trails and have these guys absolutely shredding past you

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:37 (one year ago) link

yeah ive spent some time at my uncles place in CO which is at like 7200 ft and you dont really notice it until you try to do any exercise at which point it's immediate. ive never been there longer than 2 weeks though so i dunno how long it takes to go away completely but 2 weeks wasnt quite enough for me

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

i am obviously not an athlete though. if i was then i'd be in the nba instead of posting about it

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

for me once you go that high its noticeable without the exercise, not uncommon for people to get altitude sickness at 7k ft and have to be taken down to lower altitude, i lived at a little higher than that for a while dont really remember how long it took to adjust maybe at least a few weeks, but you never fully adjust because theres just not that much air up there

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 June 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

friends -- I am in sweden, and my cable logins aren't working. what's the best way to stream the game in high quality? I had no idea VPNs cost money...I'll do it, but is there another way??

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link

I use this sometimes: https://reddit.rnbastreams.com/

it's annoying and you gotta click through some ads to watch (I think the trick is don't close the pop-ups until AFTER the stream starts), but hey, it works. sometimes.

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:48 (one year ago) link

ya that would be a last resort, but I’d ideally like a realiable high quality stream

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:54 (one year ago) link

ESPN+? Does that have the same issue as your cable logins?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link

i think abc.com might be showing it without having to connect a cable account?

Spottie, Thursday, 1 June 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link

there are definitely some high quality streams on there, you just gotta make sure to full screen it and never ever ever look at the chat box. idk maybe for the finals they'll be a bit more unreliable because so many more people will be on. for random Bucks games they were fine. similarly you can search Twitter for streams, you can usually find something if you're in a bind. I know Twitter clamped down on that for a while but I am guessing that shit is running rampant on Elon Twitter

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

crackstreams dot biz/nbastreams

stream dot nbabite dot com

nbabite dot to

make sure you have all of the adblockers and preferably a pihole running as well

micah, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link

the bootleg streams were noticably more unreliable/overloaded for the warriors/lakers series lol

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

yes. there are still plenty of good streams available though. there must be an enormous number of people pirating.

micah, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:18 (one year ago) link

I had to use one for that one game that was on NBA TV or whatever and it took a few tries but eventually you find a good one

frogbs, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:26 (one year ago) link

ESPN giving Tim Legler air time now because they realized he was the only one watching the Nuggets all this time and could talk about them competently lol

— Voja (@VojaMedic) June 1, 2023

Spottie, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:50 (one year ago) link

the 2023 nuggets will win the nba playoffs

― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, June 22, 2020 10:52 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:15 (one year ago) link

BISON

Spottie, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link

salute

lag∞n, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

hoopstradamus

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:27 (one year ago) link

whoa

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

YouTubeTV sponsoring the nba finals yet won’t provide its customers with better quality than 720p.

Spottie, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

I’m VPNed up baby let’s go

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link

*respectfully taps gloves with j0rdan*

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link

this is an exciting time for a life long nuggets fan like myself

lag∞n, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link

I used to ride my bike to McNichols to see the games back in the 80s. I was there when Alex English got his 20,000th point. Even though I've been away for 30+ years, I'm really excited and emotional about this.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 June 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link

thats awesome

Spottie, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link

this is an exciting time for a life long nuggets fan like myself

― lag∞n,

as a noted and long-time resident (some even say "the spiritual mayor") of denver, colorado, usa, i'm quite enthused for this series

Clay, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link

as the creator of all life including the denver metroplex i am very excited to watch the nuggets play against the team that formed against My will, the heat

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, 2 June 2023 00:37 (one year ago) link

*bows humbly*

Clay, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link

lol

ciderpress, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:38 (one year ago) link

dark blue and dark red uni combo a real shame, they are the exact same color value

Spottie, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:40 (one year ago) link

let’s go jimbeaux!

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:43 (one year ago) link

porter starting slow again

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link

just looked up the time in sweden, bless your commitment k3v

Clay, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:45 (one year ago) link

Gordon lighting them up is a very good way to start.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 June 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link

gordon locked in

lag∞n, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link

porter starting slow again

― k3vin k., Thursday, June 1, 2023 8:44 PM (one second ago) bookmarkflaglink

on offense, I should clarify. been great on the boards and on D already

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link

time to get the small guys off of gordon

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

just looked up the time in sweden, bless your commitment k3v

― Clay, Thursday, June 1, 2023 8:45 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

I stopped at like every bar we passed today to ask if they would be open, sadly ball is not life out here. stockholm beautiful city tho

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link

denver’s size is already the story. other than the playoffs and when they played the nuggs, I haven’t seen a ton of heat games this year, but based on their numbers it doesn’t look like they crash the offensive glass much — and it seems like they’re selling out there to make sure they’re set on defense. will be interesting to see how that plays out

k3vin k., Friday, 2 June 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link

but why was he able to have a historically good performance

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:05 (one year ago) link

he shot 80% from the field in consecutive games sometimes u gotta just tip your cap

k3vin k., Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link

i mean hes playing against the other team (nuggets)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link

obvs he was liquid metal hot but some of thats gotta be on the defense, particularly considering that the suns 3-12 players were giving them basically zero

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link

yeah nuggets defense is exploitable they had the fortune of going up against a very weak offense in the finals tho

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link

think they'll be favorites in the west again next year but a better team is surely gonna come out of the east

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:20 (one year ago) link

don't think Miami would've seriously challenged them either way but Denver were pretty lucky the ECF wasn't a sweep, Butler having to play 7 games really did seem to wear him out. and when Butler's struggling this team can barely get to 90.

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

miamis shooting came back to earth, their opponents shooting did stay on earth tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

one interesting if maybe not meaningful thing about this year is that out of the nba big man mvp triumvirate the more robotic and predictable embiid and giannis were out in the early rounds while the free wheeling improvisor jokic took home the ring

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

Kind of soothing to me somehow that I don't think the Bucks would have won these finals

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:31 (one year ago) link

yeah didnt seem like they really had it, overall the nugs were the only team that really had the vibe this year

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

this bit is so good, we are all the joker now

Nikola Jokic finding out when the parade will be, and saying he wants to go home 😂 pic.twitter.com/8umJGSiu8m

— Shane Young (@YoungNBA) June 13, 2023

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:48 (one year ago) link

nobody likes their job, maybe they do, theyre lying

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:54 (one year ago) link

uncle champ

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FygHga-WYAA9pje?format=png&name=large

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 14:55 (one year ago) link

shout out ciderpress jimbeaux and matt armstrong

Back atcha. What a ride.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:44 (one year ago) link

congrats nuggz and fans!

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

injury karma shined down on the nuggs in a real way

Congrats to Dan Shimensky, Steve Short, Jason Miller, Felipe Eichenberger, & the rest of the Denver medical team. The Nuggets did not lose a single man game to injury or illness during their entire playoff run!They also finished the regular season with the 6th fewest games lost.

— Jeff Stotts (@InStreetClothes) June 13, 2023



also relevant

I stayed relatively quiet this NBA postseason as the big bad injury bug stayed away from the final few rounds. Overall the numbers of games lost to injury or illness per the number of playoff games played (2.62) was the lowest it’s been since the 2018-19 season.

— Jeff Stotts (@InStreetClothes) June 13, 2023

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 June 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

Reporter: ...and are looking forward to the parade?

Jokic: When is parade? When is parade?

Off camera voice: Thursday.

Jokic: (holds his head in both hands, then wipes hands down across his face) No. No. I need to go home.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

Is.. Denver home for him or somewhere else?

Nhex, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link

serbia

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

relative to other nba cities there are probably a lot of horses in the immediate vicinity of denver but its just not the same

https://phantom-marca.unidadeditorial.es/861dc1aa08726c9cf563601407cbfa96/resize/660/f/webp/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2023/06/13/16866429447472.jpg

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, 13 June 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

Blucifer!

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link

huh because i didn't consume any news today except some trump bullshit, i missed that denver celebrated in lodo by having a failed drug deal with suspected fentanyl, multiple handguns, 20 shots fired, and nine people injured. so fucked up.

rick james, critical moralist (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 01:21 (one year ago) link

I don’t know what to do now

well in 20 minutes or so you can see the stanley cup awarded

it will be ridiculous if the vegas fans boo gary bettman but i hope they do it anyway

mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 02:22 (one year ago) link

xps ok, realizing that his whole "yay. we won. time to go home" attitude is hilarious

Nhex, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:53 (one year ago) link


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