stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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oh ok they were even bigger before last year though

ciderpress, Monday, 26 June 2023 19:10 (two years ago)

who is the new CBA supposed to benefit?


well, the union agreed to it too. the players received bumps in the money that is split between owners and players. there is also a more stringent salary floor now, more exception money that can freely be used by tax teams, and even more money available for max deals

Chief among those gains was an expansion of Basketball Related Income, which defines the revenue pie used to determine the share players receive. For the first time since the inception of the salary cap system 40 years ago, team and league licensing revenue will be included in the BRI calculation. This is expected to add roughly $160 million to BRI for the 2023-24 season and should grow annually.

BRI will be expanded further with respect to the treatment of complimentary tickets, team watch parties, barter expenses, plaza naming rights and equity transactions. These changes are projected to add an additional $90 million to BRI for a total of $250 million next season, according to someone familiar with the CBA term sheet who was not authorized to speak publicly.

The previous CBA guaranteed players between 49% and 51% of BRI, and the players received 51% each season except for 2020-21 due to the impact of COVID-19. In the new CBA, players are expected to receive 51% of BRI throughout the agreement under the negotiated formula for “forecasted BRI.” The next NBA TV contract will greatly impact league revenue and player contracts, but players are currently projected to earn between a total of $45 billion and $50 billion in salaries and benefits during the seven-year term of the CBA.


if some owners want to prevent other owners from building super teams resulting in weird ahistorical league parody i’m not sure that’s much skin off the players backs. i do think john collins type players who are aiming to be paid big salaries that are in between the max & the exception range might have their salaries depressed. but overall i’m sure the union made a strong case to its members that they’re all going to make more money out of this

the ppl who probably will get screwed are the fans bcuz we don’t have a say in CBA negotiations

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 June 2023 19:13 (two years ago)

a lot of the stuff the second apron is preventing won’t result in players losing money, i don’t think, so much as it will result in talent being more evenly distributed throughout the league. which is why to me it’s more a question of whether this CBA is good for the consumer

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 June 2023 19:20 (two years ago)

um, parity* not parody tho let’s see how close we get to the latter…..

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 June 2023 19:20 (two years ago)

when the cap bumped and they didn’t smooth it there was a handful or two of guys who really really benefited but i don’t think there was much of a negative ripple effect for the rest of the union. the real issue was that it paved the way for durant to GS which made the league pretty boring to watch for three seasons. i’d expect this to be kinda similar in reverse — there will prob be a handful or two free agents who don’t see the kinda offers they want — but for the union in total it will all come out in the wash. and then we’ll see what it does for the “product”

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 June 2023 19:30 (two years ago)

hawks finally traded him lol

― lag∞n, Monday, June 26, 2023 1:49 PM (one hour ago)

WE DID IT!

Heez, Monday, 26 June 2023 19:37 (two years ago)

lol ok dame

Chris Haynes says Damian Lillard doesn’t want to play for a ‘stacked’ team

“He doesn’t want to be on a team where it’s just 3 All-Stars or 3 superstars… He just wants a team that has a shot.”

(Via Bleacher Report) pic.twitter.com/Tmjl3dWLoD

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) June 26, 2023

Spottie, Monday, 26 June 2023 21:58 (two years ago)

so...miami

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 26 June 2023 22:04 (two years ago)

lmao “make it look good”

Clay, Monday, 26 June 2023 22:08 (two years ago)

dame way to concerned with how hes gonna look coming out of this, no one cares any more dude just let go and move on

Spottie, Monday, 26 June 2023 22:14 (two years ago)

"definitely DO NOT trade me to the cities with hot babes, i absolutely hate that, and DO NOT trade me to any city that doesn't have HARSH, BRUTAL WINTERS which supplies the rage i need to succeed at this level of competition"

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 26 June 2023 22:27 (two years ago)

the team in a major city with no all stars and a bunch of great role players still makes all the sense in the world….

J0rdan S., Monday, 26 June 2023 23:15 (two years ago)

yup

lag∞n, Monday, 26 June 2023 23:19 (two years ago)

he wouldnt be HEATED to head south, and you dont need to be phillip glass to see that dame would be einstein on the beach

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 26 June 2023 23:35 (two years ago)

i don’t understand utah’s motivation for doing this with nothing attached as a sweetener

― J0rdan S., Monday, June 26, 2023 11:00 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

another question... is collins better than Kelly O?

Spottie, Monday, 26 June 2023 23:37 (two years ago)

At sick alley pop dunks, yes

Heez, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 00:03 (two years ago)

yes if he's healthy

ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 00:51 (two years ago)

His sick ally oops didn’t really suffer last year. His 3 point shot was fucked and the man can’t get post position to save his life

Heez, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 00:58 (two years ago)

Man it’s CLOSE in a lot of categories

https://stathead.com/tiny/wS89e

But I’d value Kelly Os shooting, playmaking and defense over anything Collins does besides sick jams

Spottie, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 01:06 (two years ago)

the thing with Collins is that he's got really nice touch around the basket, but he's really not smart in the post. he sucks at getting position and often takes way too long to make his move. when he gets it in a good spot and goes, he's really effective. he's also a solid defender, but doesn't have the best reach. the sick dunk thing was kind of a joke but him and trae really did have a nice pnr game. i wish him the best

Heez, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 01:31 (two years ago)

sorry for egregious reallys

Heez, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 01:31 (two years ago)

well as with many things it depends on what you need, if you're a good team looking for a backup offensive big man the answer is kelly all day but if you're a building/developing team you'd obviously take a chance on collins rediscovering his 20/10 form.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 01:40 (two years ago)

Statement from Blazers general manager Joe Cronin to me:

"I met with Dame and Aaron Goodwin this afternoon. We had a great dialogue. We remain committed to building a winner around Dame."

— Sean Highkin (@highkin) June 27, 2023



this is prob the single most annoying update they could have possibly given

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:08 (two years ago)

according to sam amick of the athletic, dame would like one (1) jerami grant to be re-sign AND one (1) draymond green signing sounds totally reSonable why wont the blazers do it hmm makes u think thateyre acting in bad faith i guess i have no choice but to be traded to miami

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:31 (two years ago)

the “all i need to be happy is jerami grant and draymond green” thing is one of the best examples you’ll see of why players should never be GMs

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:35 (two years ago)

i say this every time one of these types of reports comes out but yes, i too want a lot of different things. we all do.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:36 (two years ago)

if you have the opportunity to give a quarter billion dollars to jerami grant and draymond green you have to take it

Clay, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:40 (two years ago)

im trying to think of a precedent of a player drawing out this "i *wink* want *wink* to remain *wink* loyal" shtick as long as dame has done this

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:43 (two years ago)

Dame in Miami would rule. honestly it's cute he's so concerned with looking bad by not sticking with his initial team even though virtually every star who's played that much has done it at least once. kinda like when people start leaving a party en masse and you really wanna leave too but not without saying goodbye to everyone

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:44 (two years ago)

im trying to think of a precedent of a player drawing out this "i *wink* want *wink* to remain *wink* loyal" shtick as long as dame has done this

― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, June 26, 2023 10:43 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's a pioneer on this, a trail blazer if you will

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:51 (two years ago)

my read is he doesn’t want to win “the wrong way” or be seen as a ring chaser and he’s taken that to the logical conclusion. which sure it’s nice to have integrity but not if you’re annoying and overbearing about it xp

Clay, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 02:54 (two years ago)

hes also left it too late

micah, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 04:00 (two years ago)

seems reasonable

The Chicago Bulls and center Nikola Vucevic are nearing a three-year, $60 million contract extension, league sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. pic.twitter.com/xYo9vF0Gk1

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 28, 2023

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 19:42 (two years ago)

yeah that seems fair for both sides putting aside the part where bulls fans have to spend another three years being reminded every night that their team made one of the worst trades in recent league history

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 June 2023 19:46 (two years ago)

who knows what the hornets are up to ever

The Hornets say they have extended Qualifying Offers to Miles Bridges, Theo Maledon and PJ Washington, making all three restricted free agents.

— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpears) June 28, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 19:50 (two years ago)

PJ washington tracking strongly to be the next john collins

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 June 2023 19:51 (two years ago)

funny guy

.@ramonashelburne reports that Kyrie Irving intends to meet with teams in free agency and is searching for "a place where he can spend the rest of his career, the place that feels like home." pic.twitter.com/dNWqIqrFKr

— NBA on ESPN (@ESPNNBA) June 28, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:00 (two years ago)

if he spurns the mavs lmao

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:08 (two years ago)

feel like he prob understands that he needs to create the illusion of a market so that the mavs will max him out. i don’t think there’s a team w cap space that would actually want him

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:17 (two years ago)

love to finalize an agreement two days before it goes into effect

The new Collective Bargaining Agreement has been signed and shared with the 30 NBA teams, sources tell ESPN. The 676-page agreement goes into effect on July 1 and runs through the 2029-2030 season

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:25 (two years ago)

if he spurns the mavs lmao

― Spottie, Wednesday, June 28, 2023 1:08 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

feel like he prob understands that he needs to create the illusion of a market so that the mavs will max him out. i don’t think there’s a team w cap space that would actually want him

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, June 28, 2023 1:17 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah i mean if they sign him for 5/253 or whatever he can get then thats just as bad lol

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:54 (two years ago)

the last bullet point lol

The “full expectation” is Kyrie Irving will re-sign with the Mavericks once free agency begins, per @wojespn:

- Legitimate places Kyrie would even consider leaving Dallas for are “extremely limited, perhaps almost nil.”

- Money aspect won’t be an issue for Irving’s new deal… pic.twitter.com/lmqT8C0cME

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 28, 2023

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 June 2023 20:56 (two years ago)

“extremely limited, perhaps almost nil.”

my guess is this also describes the list of teams interested in signing kyrie

Clay, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 21:01 (two years ago)

everything is in alignment

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 21:02 (two years ago)

The Timberwolves are declining to guarantee Taurean Prince’s $7.4M contract for the 2023-2024 season, sources tell ESPN. Prince — who’s averaged 10.4 points in his seven years — joins the free agent market.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2023

expected this but prince was a nice vet role player, shot well from 3 last year, general good guy from all accounts

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 21:09 (two years ago)

san antonian as well

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Wednesday, 28 June 2023 21:14 (two years ago)

be a good deep bench guy for a contender

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 21:30 (two years ago)

every contender should be trying to get prince on a minimum, he'll have his choice im sure

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 22:06 (two years ago)

Sheesh, appreciate the heads up Woj🤲🏾 https://t.co/KXwlYfMyLA

— TP (@taureanprince) June 28, 2023

Spottie, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 22:17 (two years ago)

seems like he might look for more than the vet min, he’s 29 and has only had 3 years of non-rookie scale pay. probably not going to have a better chance to make some money.

circles, Thursday, 29 June 2023 02:00 (two years ago)


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