stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

wtf they did it!

ime knows ball

Ime Udoka reportedly had zero interest in coaching James Harden, per @SteveBHoop

“Ime said, ‘It’s not going to work here.’” pic.twitter.com/Nx9YvTLwhr

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 7, 2023

talking myself into hunter tyson, NBA rotation player

gen z ass name

hmm

Report: Blazers seeking 4 1st-round picks and 2 quality players for Damian Lillard https://t.co/KdJfRkr4kD

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 7, 2023

If Damian Lillard lands with a team other than the Miami Heat, he won't report to training camp, per @MarkG_Medina

"‘He just wouldn’t go,’ a person familiar with Lillard’s thinking told Sportsnaut. ‘He just wouldn’t report.'… ‘I don’t think the other team would trade for him… pic.twitter.com/ETxLoXRUMH

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) July 7, 2023

i think they need to have a talk

feel like he’s probably bluffing

the blazers should hire ainge as a ghost-gm to work this trade out

poor roll out by dames team they shouldve at least come up with some even shittier trade options than miami, like say hell play for the clippers too, now hes out there looking bad

like the spurs that was a good idea why did they drop that one the spurs are never gonna trade for him anyway theyre rebuilding

you couldve put cleveland on the list they dont have any draft picks

I agree about the bluffing. By not reporting to the team that owns his contract dame would not just forfeit very large sums of money, but he'd also be kicking himself out of the NBA for the duration of his holdout and making it literally impossible for him to pursue success in the playoffs or a championship ring. The longer he held out, the further he'd be from his stated goal. If he were stubborn enough to genuinely end his own career, he'd be shooting himself in both legs. That's not going to happen.

has anyone reported on what the actual deal w this guy is???

Report: No one has offered CWood more than the minimum, per Stein 😳😳😳#MFFL pic.twitter.com/sfZK31CztT

— MFFL (@Mavs_FFL) July 7, 2023

yeah thats pretty weird

guess just the combo of being a terrible defender and having a famously bad attitude will do it, still think hed get more than the min tho

the 4 firsts and 2 quality players request for dame seems eminently achievable to me if the primary teams involved are miami and brooklyn… combined they can pretty easily make that happen tho i guess the definition of “quality player” is a slippery one. i remain convinced the hold up here is each team trying to stick the other with their bad contracts

the thing that makes me think theyre not close to a deal is how weird team dame is being about it

out of nowhere trades do happen in the NBA so i don’t wanna put too much stock in this thought, but it is interesting to me, given how much of this is playing out in the media, that there hasn’t been any reporting (that i’ve seen) about a team actually stepping up and trying to acquire dame. everyone seems to think that half the league could beat miami’s offer… but does it seem like any team really wants to? there’s been far more reporting on teams being happy to jump in and take herro than there has been on a team looking at this stalemate & trying to pry dame away from miami

the spurs & jazz stuff is transparently ridiculous, the idea that anyone would take those ideas seriously is hysterical to me. you’ve got kevin o connor on twitter talking about how dame goes back to utah every summer for a basketball camp. uh huh. meanwhile the other “contending” teams ppl have thrown out there like philly & the clippers don’t seem to be involved at all. maybe this is dame’s posturing at work — in which case good for him — but i also wonder if the appetite for acquiring dame’s contract at a major asset price is far lesser around the league than everyone wants to believe

yeah i think theres def a chance that for whatever reasons the teams that could make a big offer for him just arent interested in doing so

but it only takes one

espn is simultaneously floating this jazz & spurs nonsense while also having exclusive breaking news reports from woj that position him inside portland’s front office relaying that joe cronin is resolute in his desire to canvass the league — which is also ridiculous bcuz they have to know what every team is willing to offer at this point. to me the blazers are desperately trying to gin up a market that doesn’t exist while dame’s side is like “there’s only one team really motivated to do this just work out a trade w/ them and move on”

idk team dame is at least worried about some other deal, which tbf could just be vigilance

the fact that brooklyn in particular has strictly been linked to this trade as a third team is the major tell to me. philly is the only one that looms imo but contrary to popular opinion i think they have far less to trade than miami even if they were to part with maxey

as it stands now philly has one pick and maxey, miami has two picks and herro, philly might have more room to do other deals to get the assets but idk, maxey is def more valuable than herro but prob not a ton they are similar players

i actually do believe boston would’ve been a major player but chris haynes has said flatly on a number of occasions that it’s never happening there & the boston beat writers have been saying the same thing from boston’s end too, from what i’ve seen

yeah even dame not wanting to be there aside its a pretty iffy idea too much young for old and big for little, the thing that makes miami taking on dames insane deal is they wouldnt be sacrificing as much of their future since jimmy is old too

it’s just a tough situation because the heat have no incentive to pony up good assets (or take back bad salary) when they’re not bidding against anyone, and the blazers have no incentive to rush the deal when they’re tanking this season anyway

i’m not sure ppl realize that maxey’s next contract is gonna be the 5/210 max that bane just got. if herro’s 4/120 is giving you pause (which btw it doesn’t seem to be around the league) then how does that one feel

I think the Miami deal will happen any minute. But, after the past week, I think the best possible move for Portland is to start the season with him. You can do better than two first round picks and Herro and there’s always the chance he changes his mind about other locations.

yeah even if the heat put their best offer on the table portland might feel like theyre better off waiting for something better

Portland can wait until the trade deadline if they need to - ultimately it's a win for them not to rush things. Dame is ultimately the loser here in that he loses play time as he'd be sitting out. Portland can stay under the min cap easier, and still rebuild/tank if need be. Like the situation with KD last year, the only person it benefits to rush a deal is Dame and his camp.

Also if he's really resolute, he can retire, wait a year and then come back to the league on a new deal if he's really "resolute" about Miami.

it would be pretty funny to just hold onto him until the deadline

could happen like octo said its how it went with kd

tho he did "withdraw his trade request" supposedly

ppl keep comparing dame and KD and i disagree entirely, i think the blazers are heavily incentivized to wrap this up before the season starts and turn the page fully so that scoot & sharpe can be the central focus of the franchise. trades especially ones involving more than 2 teams are harder during the season — contracts get finalized, guys who just signed get locked into teams, caps become more set, roster spots are locked in etc etc. other suitors such as philly and the clippers may well decide to make other trades themselves instead of waiting around for the chance that dame changes his mind. nobody is generating more draft picks between now and the start of the season, the idea that the blazers gain leverage instead of lose it is a fallacy to me

the nets had no plan B if they dumped KD for a subpar trade package. that was their one out of an absolute quagmire, their franchise would’ve been fucked if they caved. by contrast the blazers future is set out for them, they should try and make the best deal of course but i don’t think they have all that much to gain by dragging this out. there is no new owner whose main advisor is isaiah thomas coming into the league right before the trade deadline to send the blazers 5 picks and every good young player on his team

blazers are heavily incentivized to wrap this up before the season starts and turn the page fully so that scoot & sharpe can be the central focus of the franchise.

this does not seem like a heavy incentive

joe tsai personally took a stand against KD bcuz that franchise was a complete circus and public embarrassment bcuz of stuff KD wanted, and the idea that KD was just gonna bounce on the mess he made & leave the nets to clean it up was understandably untenable to tsai. blazers ownership is completely absent generally, so i guess joe cronin can declare war on dame and start the season with his team being hounded every day about where dame is at, how happy he is, when is he being traded etc but… i don’t see why he would wanna do that. to squeeze an extra draft pick out of somebody?

the other comparison is ben simmons where daryl morey bravely took a stand against a revolting player and ended up with the privilege of trading two first round picks and seth curry for james harden. be careful what you wish for!

he did get what he wanted, what he wanted was just bad lol

in more upbeat news for the blazers

Just sitting here CACKLING with @NekiasNBA watching Scoot. This rules so hard. This is a dude.

— Sam Vecenie (@Sam_Vecenie) July 7, 2023

he did get what he wanted, what he wanted was just bad lol

yeah I’m watching this game and scoot is as advertised he fuckin rules lol

i just started at the beginning

the blazers should make sure scoot has to spend the next 6 months answering questions about dame in case someone is willing to trade them one extra staff pick seems like a good idea for everyone

whatre u gonna do u know

dame should stop running from the grind and play w scoot

he should be scoots back up

what a trip

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— Las Vegas Locally 🌴 (@LasVegasLocally) July 7, 2023
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omg

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