stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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but it only takes one

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 22:53 (two years ago)

espn is simultaneously floating this jazz & spurs nonsense while also having exclusive breaking news reports from woj that position him inside portland’s front office relaying that joe cronin is resolute in his desire to canvass the league — which is also ridiculous bcuz they have to know what every team is willing to offer at this point. to me the blazers are desperately trying to gin up a market that doesn’t exist while dame’s side is like “there’s only one team really motivated to do this just work out a trade w/ them and move on”

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 22:55 (two years ago)

idk team dame is at least worried about some other deal, which tbf could just be vigilance

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 22:57 (two years ago)

the fact that brooklyn in particular has strictly been linked to this trade as a third team is the major tell to me. philly is the only one that looms imo but contrary to popular opinion i think they have far less to trade than miami even if they were to part with maxey

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 22:58 (two years ago)

as it stands now philly has one pick and maxey, miami has two picks and herro, philly might have more room to do other deals to get the assets but idk, maxey is def more valuable than herro but prob not a ton they are similar players

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:01 (two years ago)

i actually do believe boston would’ve been a major player but chris haynes has said flatly on a number of occasions that it’s never happening there & the boston beat writers have been saying the same thing from boston’s end too, from what i’ve seen

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:01 (two years ago)

yeah even dame not wanting to be there aside its a pretty iffy idea too much young for old and big for little, the thing that makes miami taking on dames insane deal is they wouldnt be sacrificing as much of their future since jimmy is old too

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:05 (two years ago)

it’s just a tough situation because the heat have no incentive to pony up good assets (or take back bad salary) when they’re not bidding against anyone, and the blazers have no incentive to rush the deal when they’re tanking this season anyway

k3vin k., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:05 (two years ago)

i’m not sure ppl realize that maxey’s next contract is gonna be the 5/210 max that bane just got. if herro’s 4/120 is giving you pause (which btw it doesn’t seem to be around the league) then how does that one feel

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:06 (two years ago)

I think the Miami deal will happen any minute. But, after the past week, I think the best possible move for Portland is to start the season with him. You can do better than two first round picks and Herro and there’s always the chance he changes his mind about other locations.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 7 July 2023 23:06 (two years ago)

yeah even if the heat put their best offer on the table portland might feel like theyre better off waiting for something better

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:07 (two years ago)

Portland can wait until the trade deadline if they need to - ultimately it's a win for them not to rush things. Dame is ultimately the loser here in that he loses play time as he'd be sitting out. Portland can stay under the min cap easier, and still rebuild/tank if need be. Like the situation with KD last year, the only person it benefits to rush a deal is Dame and his camp.

octobeard, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:07 (two years ago)

Also if he's really resolute, he can retire, wait a year and then come back to the league on a new deal if he's really "resolute" about Miami.

octobeard, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:09 (two years ago)

it would be pretty funny to just hold onto him until the deadline

Clay, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:10 (two years ago)

could happen like octo said its how it went with kd

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:11 (two years ago)

tho he did "withdraw his trade request" supposedly

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:11 (two years ago)

ppl keep comparing dame and KD and i disagree entirely, i think the blazers are heavily incentivized to wrap this up before the season starts and turn the page fully so that scoot & sharpe can be the central focus of the franchise. trades especially ones involving more than 2 teams are harder during the season — contracts get finalized, guys who just signed get locked into teams, caps become more set, roster spots are locked in etc etc. other suitors such as philly and the clippers may well decide to make other trades themselves instead of waiting around for the chance that dame changes his mind. nobody is generating more draft picks between now and the start of the season, the idea that the blazers gain leverage instead of lose it is a fallacy to me

the nets had no plan B if they dumped KD for a subpar trade package. that was their one out of an absolute quagmire, their franchise would’ve been fucked if they caved. by contrast the blazers future is set out for them, they should try and make the best deal of course but i don’t think they have all that much to gain by dragging this out. there is no new owner whose main advisor is isaiah thomas coming into the league right before the trade deadline to send the blazers 5 picks and every good young player on his team

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:22 (two years ago)

blazers are heavily incentivized to wrap this up before the season starts and turn the page fully so that scoot & sharpe can be the central focus of the franchise.

this does not seem like a heavy incentive

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:26 (two years ago)

joe tsai personally took a stand against KD bcuz that franchise was a complete circus and public embarrassment bcuz of stuff KD wanted, and the idea that KD was just gonna bounce on the mess he made & leave the nets to clean it up was understandably untenable to tsai. blazers ownership is completely absent generally, so i guess joe cronin can declare war on dame and start the season with his team being hounded every day about where dame is at, how happy he is, when is he being traded etc but… i don’t see why he would wanna do that. to squeeze an extra draft pick out of somebody?

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:27 (two years ago)

the other comparison is ben simmons where daryl morey bravely took a stand against a revolting player and ended up with the privilege of trading two first round picks and seth curry for james harden. be careful what you wish for!

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:29 (two years ago)

he did get what he wanted, what he wanted was just bad lol

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:30 (two years ago)

in more upbeat news for the blazers

Just sitting here CACKLING with @NekiasNBA watching Scoot. This rules so hard. This is a dude.

— Sam Vecenie (@Sam_Vecenie) July 7, 2023

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:33 (two years ago)

he did get what he wanted, what he wanted was just bad lol


yeah and if he had just taken the deal that was on the table in the summer his team would be in a markedly better place

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:36 (two years ago)

yeah I’m watching this game and scoot is as advertised he fuckin rules lol

Clay, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:36 (two years ago)

i just started at the beginning

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:37 (two years ago)

the blazers should make sure scoot has to spend the next 6 months answering questions about dame in case someone is willing to trade them one extra staff pick seems like a good idea for everyone

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 July 2023 23:39 (two years ago)

whatre u gonna do u know

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:40 (two years ago)

dame should stop running from the grind and play w scoot

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 7 July 2023 23:50 (two years ago)

he should be scoots back up

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:50 (two years ago)

what a trip

Good morning pic.twitter.com/eLSuzXRO5i
— Las Vegas Locally 🌴 (@LasVegasLocally) July 7, 2023
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, July 7, 2023 3:44 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

omg

ciderpress, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:51 (two years ago)

the ball

ciderpress, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:51 (two years ago)

Scoot Henderson in the first quarter of his first Summer League game:

13 points | 3 rebounds | 3 assists | 73% shooting

3rd Pick??? pic.twitter.com/T05yPlBQo0

— Teg🚨 (@IQfor3) July 7, 2023

1Q into summer league and scoot is already dames best teammate

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 7 July 2023 23:52 (two years ago)

love when a guy is just immediately too good for summer league

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:53 (two years ago)

pointing out that one of the blazers' options is a bad one doesn't make any of their other options into good ones. at some point the FO will choose an option and go with it, but which one works best is a finely sliced answer.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 7 July 2023 23:56 (two years ago)

the ball

― ciderpress, Friday, July 7, 2023 7:51 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the big ball

lag∞n, Friday, 7 July 2023 23:57 (two years ago)

the big glowing basketball actually looks too insane for me to really stop and comprehend the full implications of everything that’s going on there

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:08 (two years ago)

it’s incredible that we said they should make the ball and then they made the big beautiful ball

Clay, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:11 (two years ago)

the ball is life

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:12 (two years ago)

it def doesnt seem right, but it feels right.. you feel me

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:14 (two years ago)

right

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:19 (two years ago)

I want to go to Vegas now

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:24 (two years ago)

ilh pilgrimage to the ball

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:24 (two years ago)

it's our field of dreams

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:25 (two years ago)

imagine when vegas gets a team and kevin harlan is like "we're coming to you live from the ball" and everyone watching is like yeah thats the stuff baby

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:30 (two years ago)

[people all over the world turning towards each other] they play in the ball

lag∞n, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:32 (two years ago)

Finally, the way the game should be played

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:43 (two years ago)

can you see the ball from space

Clay, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:44 (two years ago)

a new era of pace (light speed) and space (outer)

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:55 (two years ago)

yeesh both scoot and amen leaving with injuries

call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 July 2023 00:57 (two years ago)

so i guess joe cronin can declare war on dame and start the season with his team being hounded every day about where dame is at, how happy he is, when is he being traded etc but… i don’t see why he would wanna do that. to squeeze an extra draft pick out of somebody?

― J0rdan S., Friday, July 7, 2023 7:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

well it could be a lot more than just another draft pick (and even if it’s just another draft pick, isn’t that good?), but to piggyback off what you had been saying earlier, KD and dame aren’t the same. dame isn’t one of the 20 best players of all time playing in NYC…he’s a great player who plays in portland…who’s going to be traveling to portland to hound the blazers front office on a daily basis about where he’s going?

k3vin k., Saturday, 8 July 2023 01:03 (two years ago)


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