stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

feel like team dame couldve tried to play the angles a lil better

― lag∞n, Tuesday, August 8, 2023 9:07 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

getting publicly reprimanded by the league was not ideal

my read is cronin thought the gobert trade equivalent would simply materialize and it ... has not

it would be nice to get a gobert trade of ones own

how about a trade FOR Gilbert? 🙂

any hint of vindictiveness would only backfire on the blazers. pdx already is seen as an undesirable destination among nba players. why add a reputation for vindictiveness to that? especially since dame's reputation around the league for team loyalty is sky high.

i'm not sure dame's reputation for team loyalty is what it once was

agreed that trying to fuck dame over wouldnt be the smart thing for the blazers to do, but sometimes people just get mad

i'm not sure dame's reputation for team loyalty is what it once was

maybe among management, but players would see it differently.

the other aspect that could work in concert with being mad is thinking they can wait dame out until he agrees to go somewhere else for a better deal

i dont know why he just didnt make a list of teams he was willing to go to of which miami was able to make the best offer, it might not have really changed anything but def wouldve been better pr wise, couldve said clippers suns mavs bucks heat or some such

it seems like they looked at what durant did and said oh yeah we should just do that, ignoring that phoenix had a bunch of attractive stuff to trade back

yeah that was a flaw in their plan

thereve been a number of huge star trades recently and im sure teams are thinking that its the new normal but theyve all or at least mostly been bad trades so it could just be a kind of fluky thing or maybe teams will wise up, like gobert kd and harden trades were all objectively bad, and mitchell also maybe a bad trade

heat would prob be giving up too much for dame even except it kinda makes sense for them to go all in since jimmy is old too

miami media including le batard on his podcast the other day have flat out said the heat are lowballing the blazers because they’re not going to bid against themselves. i don’t think shams has sources in miami tbh.

i’m not even sure what that paragraph is saying tbh. the heat “have been prepared” to make the offer? what does that mean…

it is kind of mysterious

charitably i would say shams and the miami media are saying the same thing — the heat aren’t making their best offer — but shams is using his weird coded language where he basically says nothing

what would a better offer than that from the heat look like?

i haven't heard much gurgling around about this supposed third team that will flip picks/young dude(s) for herro who is this why would they do that

yeah is there some indication that they should be throwing in Bam or something?

any way you look at it this is a pretty sad end to dame's tenure in portland... he missed his chance to make this move at the point in his career when people initially would've expected him to, therefore establishing this extreme reputation for team loyalty, only for him to finally pull the trigger in a way that makes him look much worse than an earlier trade demand ever could have

i haven't heard much gurgling around about this supposed third team that will flip picks/young dude(s) for herro who is this why would they do that

― Clay, Tuesday, August 8, 2023 10:30 PM (nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ringer herro article upthread said they were having a hard time locating the team

they misplaced the team

i'm sure it will turn up though

i mean they could def get a 1st for him but 2 firsts? seems a lil steep

could imagine a real incompetent FO like the Kings of 5-10 yrs ago doing that, not sure there's anyone now

agreed that trying to fuck dame over wouldnt be the smart thing for the blazers to do, but sometimes people just get mad

― lag∞n, Tuesday, August 8, 2023 9:22 PM (one hour ago)

I don't think viewing this as portland trying to fuck dame over would really be a fair reading...it's not like it was a mutually agreed upon trade request

maybe dame will just come back and play and everyone will forget this like the time kobe demanded a trade or duncan almost jumped to the magic

i think that's what's gonna happen with harden atm

idk Harden kinda gets away with it because he doesn't really seem like the kind of guy who cares a lot about basketball in general. you know how Shaq's said he hasn't touched a basketball since he retired? I bet Harden won't even watch basketball. though now that I think about it I've seen Shaq touch basketballs plenty of times in Icy Hot commercials!!

i think that's very likely with harden, who has absolutely played himself.

i could see lillard coming back and playing up to the deadline, it probably would suck and be awkward but that's ok

yeah hardens in a tough spot prob just shouldve taken whatever extension philly was willing to give, whos supposed to pay him when hes a free agent next year

seems like when players demand a trade their agents should do the legwork to figure out if a trade exists first

it's funny because there is an entire media apparatus that will basically get anyone 85% of the way there, we're not even asking agents to do that much work

its also funny that harden thinks he can demand a trade every year and things will continue to be cool

what would a better offer than that from the heat look like?

idk, i’m just genuinely trying to understand the assertion above that the heat have yet to present their best offer.

Wolves - Dame for Gobert and Luka...................(Garza)

idk, i’m just genuinely trying to understand the assertion above that the heat have yet to present their best offer.

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, August 9, 2023 9:25 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think what jordan/local heat people are saying is the deal as described by shams has not actually been offered rather a lesser deal has

this clip got passed around bcuz le batard went off on woj for printing transparent blazers spin (true) and argued vociferously that herro is better than maxey (no comment) but the more relevant part to me is where he says the two teams aren't talking bcuz the heat have made an offer based around herro and are taking the position of "if you think you can find a better asset in another trade go ahead" -- i guess what's unstated here is what exactly the heat have attached to herro in this offer but i think the obvious implication is that they're holding stuff back bcuz they don't think portland can beat their lesser offer (seems true as of this moment)

Dan Le Batard goes off on Woj pic.twitter.com/0QfEniBUpz

— Heat Nation (@HeatNationCom) July 17, 2023

ultimately i think this ends pretty close to the heat's "best" offer -- 4 firsts and a young player or two -- and if the blazers refuse that for 33 year old lillard on a crazy contract they should've traded him two summers ago

best offer would also have pick swaps

incredible partial contract year performance

New York Knicks G Josh Hart is finalizing a four-year, $81 million contract extension, Aaron Mintz, Dave Spahn and Steven Heumann of @CAA_Basketball tell ESPN. Deal delivers Hart a total of $94M through 2027-2028 season. pic.twitter.com/PNlhKWka4g

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 9, 2023

and so it begins…

Exclusive: According to my information there are growing concerns that Latvia star Kristaps #Porzingis might miss the #FIBAWC due to injury. Understood it is something with his foot. Staff, himself and Boston #Celtics will wait until the last moment to make a decision. pic.twitter.com/YIkIz6coTo

— Rupert Fabig (@rupertfabig) August 9, 2023

ah very nice

might be for the best if tall sharpshooting celtics trade acquisitions sit out the fibawc regardless #justsaying

“According to my information there are growing concerns” i mean this stuff comes from a generator right

AI Shamsbot

according to my information is an interesting formulation as its close to according to sources but implies that the info is accessed internally

i think there might be a lost in translation thing happening there w/ that phrasing...