stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

although! trading embiid now could actually turn out to be the best thing for them considering his age an injury history, on the other hand he could easily put up another five years of mvp level play

philly shd prob just cut bait on harden and get whatever they can for him, except then what does embiid think about the future of the team, are they looking at another trade demand, theyre in a tight spot

― lag∞n, Monday, August 14, 2023 11:15 AM (five minutes ago)

i feel like even if morey was willing to swallow the ultimate public humiliation of trading harden for whatever he can get... i do wonder what that would even amount to. the best offer that they could get for this version of harden on this contract is probably like... a halfway decent role player. what were people saying the clippers offer would be? morris and norm powell, just cuz you gotta have two in there for the salaries?

yeah i dunno, feels like a blow it up situation to me

i dont think theyd do it without a embiid demand

imo it's kinda getting lost that the sixers decided to publicly announce that they're "ending trade talks" ... like the offers must have been really bad if they decided their best option was to go to war w/ a guy who has already demonstrated on two separate occasions that he will step on the court and sabotage your team if he has to. why wouldn't the sixers just say nothing & hope the market improves? we have to acknowledge that morey makes crazy trade requests as a matter of habit but the market for harden must be incredibly bleak

yeah i mean who would want this guy he sucks lol

Kudos to Harden for goosing the news during another offseason lull.

I don't think I've ever heard a player talk like that before, this is all pretty wild

Trade him for whatever is the move. They could also let him sit with a fake injury and see if the market improves at the deadline which it probably will.

We appear to be headed for quite a standoff, since league sources say that the Sixers remain determined to trade Harden only if they find a deal that keeps them in the title mix.

More to come via https://t.co/A6ycVmnZ8Y https://t.co/ubcQycEV2F

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) August 14, 2023

right so like... they're still open to trading him? or...??? this whole thing is such a mess lol

Trade him for whatever is the move. They could also let him sit with a fake injury and see if the market improves at the deadline which it probably will.

― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, August 14, 2023 11:37 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

his expiring deal could actually be valuable with teams needing to get under the famous second apron next year when all the real bad penalties kick in

while you’re all worried about that haynes is keeping us informed of the real news

Sports Business News: Former Turner Sports executive Tara August and Perry Rogers have partnered to launch “A Type, Inc.” to provide consulting services around the world of sports and entertainment. pic.twitter.com/7GtFaFLgey

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) August 14, 2023

love to provide consulting services around the world of sports and entertainment

i think harden potentially having more value at the deadline makes sense in theory, but in practice i don't see a scenario where this actually goes smoothly enough to play out that way. "go back to philly, play hard enough to re-establish your value & either get traded or sign somewhere else next year" is the def the most logical strategy for harden but he doesn't seem driven by logic at the moment

also the sixers not wanting to get worse in a harden trade -- and that part does make sense to me -- doesn't align w/ the idea of a team putting more value on the table for harden in-season than they are now. the only teams that would be trading for him at that point are ones w/ hopes for the playoffs so trading good players away to get harden would make no sense

feels like you can never rule the clippers out of doing something crazy especially if they have a good season and PG/kawhi seem like they were gonna be healthy for the playoffs. aside from that the only in-season path i could see is a team like chicago, new orleans or minnesota who hasn't had playoff success in years/ever being like "if all we do is win a first round series we'll be overjoyed so we'll take harden for 25 games + one playoff run and if he shits his pants in round 2 and then leaves it's still our best season in decades". but again those teams would have very little to nothing of present value to offer philly if they were trying to acquire harden to win playoff games so i don't see how that works

Source: Daryl Morey is unmoved by James’ comments. He is holding firm in his stance that he will not trade him unless it makes the Sixers a better team.

Meanwhile, I’m told James’ agent advised him against making that statement.

— Jason Dumas (@JDumasReports) August 14, 2023

he had one too many trill burgers

i think harden potentially having more value at the deadline makes sense in theory, but in practice i don't see a scenario where this actually goes smoothly enough to play out that way. "go back to philly, play hard enough to re-establish your value & either get traded or sign somewhere else next year" is the def the most logical strategy for harden but he doesn't seem driven by logic at the moment

Yeah, I agree Harden won't play nice and help Philly (and himself), but I think he will have more value/usefulness regardless at the deadline this year because he is expiring.

also the sixers not wanting to get worse in a harden trade -- and that part does make sense to me -- doesn't align w/ the idea of a team putting more value on the table for harden in-season than they are now. the only teams that would be trading for him at that point are ones w/ hopes for the playoffs so trading good players away to get harden would make no sense

I think Morey is going to have to get realistic about things between now and then. The only players of note on the roster for 2024-2025 are Embiid, PJ Tucker, Paul Reed, and presumably Maxey when he is resigned. Harden and Harris are expiring, so trade them this year to get ready for a radically different looking team in 2024-2025.

lol all the branding

James Harden just said this twice in China: Daryl Morley is a liar, I will never be a part of an organization that he is part of it. pic.twitter.com/0nVoaNcMYL

— MoreSteph (@XuanwongMilan) August 14, 2023

you know there's a certain young 3x All Star on the Nets you could probably swap Harden for

the nba is wild, man. this situation is jacked.

harden one-ups dame on the hard man front

he had one too many trill burgers

― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, August 14, 2023 12:09 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

we've all gotten to hopped up on trill burgers and said some things we regret

trillness is a known side effect, do not eat if you might be harmed by keeping it trill

if morey really did get harden to take less money with the promise of a richer extension & then didn’t follow thru harden’s reaction is completely justified. i’m not sure opting in was the best decision but i understand him drawing a line in the sand over ever playing for morey again.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3e/94/bc/3e94bcdea59e1a0a6c5a8944de4da036.jpg

Morey should resign until a puppet trades Harden, and then come back

the puppet could be Morey with a fake mustache

hello fellow gms

if morey really did get harden to take less money with the promise of a richer extension & then didn’t follow thru harden’s reaction is completely justified. i’m not sure opting in was the best decision but i understand him drawing a line in the sand over ever playing for morey again.

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 14, 2023 4:26 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this has to be what happened right? unless you think harden is a completely irrational actor what else could he be referring to?

in this context i get opting in too even if he was a little too hopeful about trade possibilities.

The only two possible "lies" I see:

1) Morey promised a max extension this year and then didn't offer one.

2) Morey promised to trade Harden if Harden opted in, but didn't trade him.

I guess I'm now thinking it was 2), because my sense is Harden never would have opted in if 1) had already happened. He just would have become an UFA and signed with anyone he wanted, no?

he kinda need to opt in and theres only a few teams with enough cap space to sign him to the big contract he wanted and they prob didnt want to and he prob didnt want to play for them, but if he opts in and gets traded then the team that traded for him can resign him next year

of course theres prob not anyone who wants to trade for him and resign him either oh well

see i think opting in was an attempt to maintain his salary for the coming season by forcing a trade. yes by opting out he could have signed anywhere, but i doubt he would be interested in signing with any of the cap space teams and signing a cheap contract somewhere doesn't seem like something he would do.

so to me the lie is pretty obviously point 1, it's the easiest thing that morey could promise and then renege on unilaterally.

feel like morey couldve implied that they were gonna give him a big deal like hey james no promises you know i cant do that but just know that the sixers organization values loyalty highly, which basically amounts to the same think from hardens pov but maybe keeps morey out of trouble

rly curious if there is a no backsies clause in the cba

well there's a pretty obvious reason why harden's agent is backchanneling that he doesn't support this

Joel Embiid removed “Philadelphia” from his location 😬 pic.twitter.com/s7BDZeI6iq

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) August 15, 2023

uh oh

he should demand a trade to the knicks by putting manhattan as his location

eyes emoji

Going to process down to Maxey Avenue, we'll be pickin' higher.

this rules NBA drama already in mid season form!

https://i.imgflip.com/7vuu2c.jpg

Harden is a millionaire a couple hundred times over. He doesn't have to act in the best interest of optimizing his net worth if he doesn't want to. He's out for justice (as he understands it).

yes! Chief Hélà weighs in!

"Is he Disgruntled Adrian??"

Kyrie Irving replies to Woj's post on James Harden calling Sixers GM Daryl Morey a 'liar' 👀 pic.twitter.com/cEFWLbE6VV

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPoints) August 14, 2023

in which we learn that kyrie doesn't understand what disgruntled means

Is he Disgruntled Adrian?? sounds like a line from an 80s comedy, nice sentence lol

next sentence sucks tho