stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

speaking of... i need hoops and we're still two months away.

i watched soccer the other day, sad

Kerr will always find a way to get too cute with it

― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, August 24, 2023 12:48 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

basically hes a hater, a lot of coaches are like that they cant stand contemporary basketball but they have no choice but to but to submit to its powers

FIBA World Cup starts tomorrow!

edwards is clearly the best player on the roster, kerr is tripping

that team is pretty rough lol, all the euros consider the world cup more important than the olympics but americans like the olympics

so giannis did a whole interview & photoshoot in the NYT to announce that he’s not signing an extension and won’t until he feels comfortable with the direction of the organization, or something?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/24/sports/basketball/giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-contract.html

something is off here. they just gave huge contracts to middleton and lopez essentially in order to prevent this exact thing from happening. but he went ahead and did a whole calculated roll out about how he might wanna leave anyway

yeah pretty obviously setting the stage for a soft exit, much smarter than whatever lillard has been doing

the team is just aging out having old middleton and lopez isnt gonna be enough in couple years

yeah, i don't think anything is off, the bucks are controlling what they can control but it likely won't be enough to keep him around because those guys are old

well what’s off is he decided to do a whole PR rollout w/ an explanation that doesn’t make sense. they traded most of their assets for jrue and gave big deals to two vital older players. they just paid the third highest luxury tax bill in the league. i don’t think their front office is amazing by any stretch but it would be hard to say that they haven’t poured all their resources into winning now. so what does he really mean

and also that he saw their obvious attempts to please him and instead was like, actually let me cause the most drama possible

he means that he knows the team is too old and he's going to leave soon

if he wants to join a franchise that is consistently committed to winning i do have an idea

and also that he saw their obvious attempts to please him and instead was like, actually let me cause the most drama possible

― J0rdan S., Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:01 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is the nba

like i don't think it's an anomaly that the bucks got smoked in the playoffs, it's not that good of a roster anymore

the "consistently committed to winning" framing is bs of course but the nba isn't designed to let the bucks stay competitive so he's going to leave

lmao

“From 2020 to 2023, people think I’ve taken a large jump on the basketball court, but I think I’ve taken 10X jump off the court,” he said.

It started in the spring of 2020 when the world shut down because of the coronavirus pandemic. It wasn’t clear what would happen to players’ salaries or endorsement deals with the season in flux. He began to think of ways to diversify his sources of income.

“We were sitting in the house. OK, now what?” Antetokounmpo said. “Basketball is taken away, what do I have?” He downloaded a stock trading app and started investing on his own for the first time. He began to reach out to successful people from other industries for advice and mentorship.

does fiba deserve a thread

yes

2023 fiba world cup: its not the olympics but

Edwards clarifies:

“Y’all losers, beat it, man. Y’all are taking that little comment too far. I didn’t say that to Steve Kerr,” Edwards said, as covered by Larry Brown Sports.

“I was thinking that when he said I was coming off the bench. Y’all doing too much. Y’all going too far. That’s my dog, man. Steve Kerr locked in. We talk everyday. I hate y’all. Y’all always doing that. Just interview a n—a and go about your business, bruh.”

haha

over/under on how long ant can keep it real like that before the nba media machine turns him into a jaded kd or some such

sorry that was a lame ass post. withdrawn. ant rules

that NYT article reads like a children’s story

ok!

Ben Simmons said if he were to get traded again, he’d want to come back to the 76ers.

“People always ask me like, ‘If you were to get traded again where you want it to be?’ I always say, ‘Just Philly. Philly is a second home to me.’"https://t.co/rJEEJDe3A5

— The Philadelphia Inquirer (@PhillyInquirer) August 30, 2023

i am so ready for some atlanta hawks basketball make it happen

i was watching some video of steph and trae training together yesterday and nearly got misty-eyed. i'm such a dupe i love it

bring on the ball

there is something deeply misaligned in ben simmons' brain.....

would love to be traded back to the team for who i refused to play

Wouldn’t read much into the Giannis thing, he says stuff like that every off-season. If Milwaukee stays competitive he will stay, if they do a 2-3 year rebuild post Khris/Jrue/Lopez he’s out. Idk the way I see it they kind of have to kick into a solid core or nail some trades in the next few years

might be one of those situations where he re-signs because they can give him the most money and then when they're not as good a year or two later asks for a trade

idk doing a whole feature story w/ a photoshoot in the NYT to announce he isn't resigning and might leave and then giving a nonsensical reason as to why rings alarm bells for me

the intractable issue here is that the bucks are mortgaging their future in order to maximize the present except giannis is looking at that future going "yeah idk about all this..." even if they won again i wonder if that would give him even more license to leave -- what more could you ask him to do for the bucks. he just seems like a guy who wants to experience something new in his career

honestly what it reminds me of is how lebron started paving his way out of miami by leaking to the press that he was mad about things such as the heat using the amnesty on mike miller, engaging in power battles w/ riley etc. and then when he leaved portraying it as a grand calling to return to cleveland, which i'm sure had truth to it, but he conveniently left out the part where he was ditching an aging broken down team to create one whose second and third best players were, at the time, 22 and 26

yeah this bucks roster is aging out and theres no easy way to reload is what it boils down to

New: @MarcJSpears shed some more light on Jayson Tatum's recruiting attempt with Damian Lillard as the All-Star guard remains intent on a Miami deal https://t.co/kppGQCCj9v

— Brian Robb (@BrianTRobb) August 31, 2023

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good analysis

"Boston has beaches, too"

Not sure this makes the Harden situation clearer, but it seems a lot of this is Harden being a weirdo and/or just not accepting where he is in his career:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38335993/inside-feud-james-harden-philadelphia-76ers

lol this is so dumb

With no other strong suitors, Harden was in a difficult position.

His best leverage was a loyalty play with Morey, who made his career in the NBA by seeing Harden's brilliance early and then empowering him throughout an eight-year run in Houston. Morey had signed Harden to three contract extensions in their time together, including the richest contract in NBA history at the time. He tried to trade for Harden almost as soon as he took the Philadelphia job in November 2020.

But now, when it mattered most, Morey wasn't taking Harden's calls.

"James felt like Daryl was ghosting him," one source close to Harden said. "He felt betrayed."

Rather than wait for Morey and the Sixers to present whatever offer they had come up with once free agency opened July 1, Harden and his representatives, Mike Silverman and Troy Payne, decided to pick up his $35.6 million player option before the June 30 deadline and ask for a trade.

Better to take the guaranteed money for the 2023-24 season than be forced to accept whatever offer the team made him.

The Sixers were stunned at Harden's decision, sources said, insisting to him and his representatives that they had been distant only because they were just hit with the largest tampering fine in NBA history and that they had every intention of re-signing him, as soon as the rules allowed.

But Harden was already too far gone.

"James takes things very personally," another source close to Harden said. "When he feels like he's been wronged, he can be very stubborn."

tho i guess the ghosting story could just be a stand in for philly making him an offer early that he didnt like since theyre not allowed to do that

kinda amounts to the same thing either way harden wants a contract that no ones giving him

https://a3.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2023%2F0906%2Fr1220637_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=1140&cquality=40&format=jpg

That is at the core of all this I think.

yeah this bucks roster is aging out and theres no easy way to reload is what it boils down to

― lag∞n, Wednesday, August 30, 2023 12:09 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

not really sure what they can even do they gotta luck into a young superstar somehow. so how do you do that

wouldn't mind if Giannis had sort of a LeBron style career arc where he ditches Milwaukee for some superteam and then comes back once they've reloaded. obv I would love for him to stay forever but he got us a title so I think he's earned it. had Bron won one in Cleveland before "The Decision" I bet that whole thing would've gone over a lot smoother

also not doing the decision tv show lol

bucks bottoming out while giannis is on a super team for one contract is def the move

not sure giannis' connection to milwaukee is exactly the same as lebron's and cleveland... but i guess anything is possible