stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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like... what if the current moment actually represents the nadir of tyler herro's value? if he comes out smoking hot next season looking really motivated and healthy and is being talked about as a 6th man of the year candidate again... that wouldn't help portland's leverage at all. there's just a lot of variables out there that they would be hoping mostly fall their way

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:31 (one year ago) link

i assume portland is making a big wager that dame ends up increasingly frustrated being sidelined on fake injuries or just playing like 25 mpg on a team that's trying to lose and decides he'll accept getting shipped to whatever eastern contender that finds a way to ship out the motherlode

Clay, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:36 (one year ago) link

which as you said earlier, who the hell is that even and what can they offer that miami can't? ultimately very curious why a third team hasn't come in to offer to take in herro for whatever, he'd make some real sense on one of the okc/utah/etc teams that are so asset rich and can't sit on the gold mine forever

Clay, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link

Are the Heat better off if the trade goes through?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link

theyve got a team that made the finals twice and needs to get over the hump, theyre not sacrificing any of their window by taking on the old dame since jimmy is old too, agree with dame that its the perfect spot for him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:44 (one year ago) link

and dame is a great fit rosterwise

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:46 (one year ago) link

i think theyd prob be really good but they also could collapse in a pile of injuries decrepitude and shallowness

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 23:46 (one year ago) link

hard to know exactly when these guys are gonna fall off, if neither do this year then they'd be really good

ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:12 (one year ago) link

there's been a lot of posts today and sorry if this has been covered but isn't the flipside of the portland stuff the fact that miami isn't going anywhere as a trade partner?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:15 (one year ago) link

that does seem true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link

that actually sounds like a real take clay & it's one that i agree with

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:24 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean certainly if we can find a way to tie this into a player empowerment narrative that isn’t totally embarrassing *and* just happens to benefit the miami heat we have to run with it ;)

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:32 (one year ago) link

from the perspective of a lackey like marc spears I suppose dropping cryptic hints that dame (who it just turns out I’d love to secure an exclusive sitdown with for andscape) is destined to land in miami (who my puppetmasters would love to continue to be relevant for the next several years) makes sense. as it turns out the blazers ownership seems to feel differently which is why the deal which was supposedly a lock two months ago has yet to materialize

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:49 (one year ago) link

seems like the simplest explanation is that the blazers aren’t crazy about the deal and they feel like the market for dame might improve. a lot can happen over the course of the first couple of months of the season, someone tears an ACL, someone demands a trade... maybe it’s a bit of wishful thinking on their part, but evidently their tolerance for “getting uncomfortable” is higher than people thought

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 10:44 (one year ago) link

Kevin Porter Jr. is rumored to have damaged a DJ's laptop during a team event two seasons back

“They were out at a club apparently and there was a disagreement I guess with the DJ in the club and KPJ took the laptop of said DJ and smashed it on the floor. Just completely… pic.twitter.com/Xsw8rSTmWu

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) September 13, 2023

seems like a bad guy

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

https://x.com/espnnba/status/1702047017432678461?s=46&t=delhXlmZBYazm252j4iaFA

i’m glad he just outright said it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

hes gone girl

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link

the milwaukee bucks have died

ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link

honestly from a pure basketball spectacle standpoint would love to somehow get dame on the giannis bucks

Clay, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link

he would not report or so he claims

ciderpress, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 21:40 (one year ago) link

giannis wemby duo should happen imo

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

Rockets working to trade Kevin Porter Jr. along with draft compensation in wake of charges of felony assault and strangulation due to alleged attack on girlfriend, per sources.

Details at @TheAthletic: https://t.co/2ddHr7wBjT

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) September 13, 2023

the hell??

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:17 (one year ago) link

cash for trash

Clay, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link

i just came here to make the same post as kevin. good lord

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link

holy shit just fucking waive him????

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link

theyre just trying to pay someone to deal with it

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

there cant be any disciplinary action voiding of contract etc until the league finishes its investigation iirc

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 September 2023 00:19 (one year ago) link

this is the type of thing you finish doing before the media reports on you doing it

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 September 2023 01:16 (one year ago) link

so dumb theres no way anyones going to trade for him anyway

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 September 2023 01:17 (one year ago) link

They formatted his contract for like basically this exact situation just cut him immediately it’s not hard

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, 14 September 2023 04:06 (one year ago) link

honestly from a pure basketball spectacle standpoint would love to somehow get dame on the giannis bucks

― Clay, Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:20 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

hmm yes I would be down for this

frogbs, Thursday, 14 September 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link

balance of power in the west just shifted

https://x.com/Twolves_PR/status/1702404716678836406?s=20

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

Let the Krejčíaïssance commence!

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 15 September 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link

Kyrie stepping into a SAS Terrell Owens social media beef cos why not

https://x.com/kyrieirving/status/1703131258270949824?s=46&t=mohDpDAFl5F45rFjzYedvA

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Saturday, 16 September 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

#Therearemoreimportantthingstodo

Clay, Saturday, 16 September 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

classic instigator whos pretending to above it

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 September 2023 20:51 (one year ago) link

hard to see someone beat miamis offer without dame being into it, tho maybe theres some deal/player that the blazer could be unreasonably stoked on

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 20:38 (one year ago) link

i think dame would be down if the team was good

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Monday, 18 September 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link

i wouldnt be surprised if his resolve was weakening tho we did just get that leak re him not showing up for other training camps so idk

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link

nba news is in the dumps right now i really cant get myself to care about this very much. if this happened a couple/few years ago it would be way more interesting.

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Monday, 18 September 2023 20:50 (one year ago) link

its the same story every offseason we need new writers

ciderpress, Monday, 18 September 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link

dame's agent has been issuing plenty of double-talk on the question of whether dame would honor his contract if he's traded somewhere that's not miami

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 18 September 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link

nba news is in the dumps right now i really cant get myself to care about this very much. if this happened a couple/few years ago it would be way more interesting.

― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Monday, September 18, 2023 4:50 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

its the same story every offseason we need new writers

― ciderpress, Monday, September 18, 2023 4:56 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Seriously, I needed something mindless to listen to while I was doing some housework today, and I put on the Hoop Collective with Windy and the Tims... the storylines they were trying to get themselves excited about were just going through the motions to an intolerable degree, sounded like AI

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 18 September 2023 22:18 (one year ago) link

Free agent G/F Kelly Oubre Jr., is expected to sign a one-year deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, sources tell ESPN. Oubre — who averaged 20 points for Charlotte last season — could get significant opportunity on the wing with the uncertainty around James Harden.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 18, 2023

embiid will stay now

lag∞n, Monday, 18 September 2023 22:55 (one year ago) link

Yes, for instance, the Blazers want Lillard to stop leaking every six days that he won't report to camp unless he's traded to Miami, and he doesn't want to do that. https://t.co/IBpXft38y3

— Yaya Dubin (@JADubin5) September 19, 2023

a fun game to play whenever one of these posts gets a lot of angry replies/QTs is to check the location and/or team loyalties of the people replying. for all the shit we hear about the regressive politics of the state of florida, there seems to really be a groundswell of pro-worker sentiment!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 September 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

ha

lag∞n, Tuesday, 19 September 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

there seems to really be a groundswell of pro-worker sentiment!

Eh. Pro-worker sentiment is better spent on disputes of substance, like pay and working conditions, instead of who gets to gratify his ambition for a trophy.

The whole idea in giving Lillard that super-max contract and extending it out to the bitter end of his career was that it ensured Lillard was well-rewarded for his frequently announced intention of ending his career as a Blazer. The idea that the Blazers didn't hold up their end of the bargain because the CBA rules put them into a strait jacket in regard to trades and the luxury tax (and small, white city vibe) make it extremely hard to compete for FAs is something of a stretch. But athletes like Lillard operate in a different world and under different rules than ordinary workers or even ordinary NBA starters, so to totally misapply a famous quote, "when you're a celebrity, they let you do it".

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 September 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

The entire Miami media and fanbase has become That Guy in your fantasy league who writes long emails telling you why trading him Giannis for Desmond Bane is good for you if you just think about it the right way.

— Anchorage Man (@SethPartnow) September 19, 2023

these pro management takes are getting out of control!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 September 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

Huge addition to the James Dolan canon here for serious SPHERE Heads (Joe Lhota calling it Dolan's "baby," a live feed of the SPHERE is beamed into Dolan's office, the strong implication that Dolan sucks at blackjack, etc.)https://t.co/1wkEXJ94H6

— Christopher Robbins (@ChristRobbins) September 20, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 13:39 (one year ago) link


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