yeah but that’s portland’s fault. for all the narrative building about how miami is being unreasonable in thinking it can get dame for herro and some picks, the blazers aren’t owed a certain level of a trade package back just bcuz they’re putting a player of dame’s name recognition on the trade market. if they wanted a deal that is going to immediately revitalize their roster, they should’ve traded him two years ago. it’s nobody else’s problem if that was difficult for them because he was a franchise icon. joe cronin decided he wanted to try and thread the needle, it didn’t work and now he’s left holding the bag. the trade, regardless of who it’s with, is likely not going to be made on his terms & that’s just the reality he and the franchise have to deal with. if the available trade options leave them with no great future plan, well… everyone has been saying for two years that this exact scenario would play out if the blazers just sat on their hands and here we are
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
it is true that everyone said that
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
doesnt sound like the thunder are likely to make a big move despite having the ability to
Sam Presti on potentially going “all in” for a trade for a star: pic.twitter.com/ReZ0XMlHnC— Rylan Stiles (@Rylan_Stiles) September 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
ahhhhh
BREAKING: The Portland Trail Blazers are trading guard Damian Lillard to the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/FRgQyDVjQG— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:18 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/9HImKdt.gif
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
bucks have one first they can trade idgi
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
@?!?!?!/1/1/1/1?!?1/1/1/
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
hey what’s happenin
― Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
i guess like this
Lillard goes Milwaukee as part of a 3-team deal with Jrue Holiday, Deandre Ayton, Toumani Camara, a 2029 unprotected MIL 1st, and unprotected MIL swap rights in 2028 and 2030 to Blazers. Phoenix lands Jusuf Nurkic, Grayson Allen, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson. https://t.co/Ge0H91AiIA— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link
so the blazers basically got ayton and an unprotected first? and dumped nurkic’s contract
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
Seems good for the suns
― Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
gonna miss Holiday dude was a class act and an incredible defensive player but he also went 4-19 in a bunch of playoff games
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
well I guess the bucks are title favorites huh
― Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
Get rid of Ayton and build a bench
so they got jrue ayton and a first + a couple prob good swaps
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
gotta be flipping jrue no?
― Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
one would think theyd be moving jrue immediately maybe this deal even gets amended get at least like a first and a second for him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link
The Blazers remain engaged elsewhere on deals and will are expected to immediately engage contending teams on trade talks to move on Jrue Holiday, sources tell ESPN. Portland is committed to its young group of talented guards. https://t.co/6IR7bcFVrr— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 27, 2023
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link
miami couldve beat this deal if they wanted to
damn. and here I thought the heat trade was just a formality at this point
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
the number of points the suns will have scored on them this year is going to be so high
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link
Because they lost Ayton?
― Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link
because of the whole roster but ayton to nurk is a defensive downgrade too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
so they basically traded a dame problem for a jrue problem + ayton and a first. i’m not sure when they flip jrue that this will net out much more than the idealized package from the heat, but it probably won’t be less in terms of draft assets. a lot of how this looks will depend on how good ayton really is
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link
Oh didn’t realize nurk was bad on d
― Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
congrats frogs bucks live, sorry jord heat wouldve been nice with dame but they didnt want to empty the bank for him which is prob smart
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
I personally do not believe in Ayton
― Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
i also do not
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link
ah well nevertheless
"I don’t want to play for any other team. I think we have a chance to continue to do great things as the #Bucks team and organization so I want to be in Milwaukee.” - Jrue Holiday https://t.co/qNfDBRl3vu— Jim Owczarski (@JimOwczarski) September 26, 2023
interesting
Giannis https://t.co/x44aDOW4XM— Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) May 15, 2022
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
i really did not think the bucks had the stuff to get dame so hats off to them, high pressure sitch too what with giannis publicly threatening them every day
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link
i think ayton makes sense in theory insofar as the blazers won’t be asking him to be much more than a pretty good center. whether you can win a title with him isn’t entering into the equation. but he will prob want a lot of shots & was a general malcontent and perhaps not a great professional role model in phoenix so it seems like a potentially combustible combo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link
xp same I'm stunned they pulled it off
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link
suns basically dumped ayton and got some bodies huh. not sure how this helps them any way other than financially... maybe addition by subtraction in that team maybe hated him and the vibes will improve?
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link
feels like a no brainer for the bucks. if giannis’ thing is not locking himself into an aging core then i feel like this only compounds that, but if you figure that he’s leaving anyway this gives you a much better chance to win in the next two seasons. you were already staring down the barrel of financial oblivion anyway
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link
the suns aspect of this seems pretty atrocious, i’m no huge fan of ayton but i would’ve thought his value was greater than nurkic who is actively bad and grayson allen and nasir little. but maybe not
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link
yeah thats pretty rough for a guy you just maxed out last off season
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link
so much bad press around him tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link
maybe addition by subtraction in that team maybe hated him and the vibes will improve?
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, September 27, 2023 2:41 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
the team obvs did hate him
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link
No https://t.co/CUqIrlxDOv— Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) February 18, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link
nice work by portland pulling this off. and a coup for the bucks obv.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT86K3tJv/
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
So Milwaukee's SG is Malik Beasley now? Don't love that. Or Pat Connaughton playing small? They could use a guy.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link
yeah backcourt defense could be an issue
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link
they do have a spot open
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
also I'm pretty amazed at the implosion of this Suns team, nearly everyone but Booker is gone from that 2021 Finals team which seemed like it was gonna stay intact for quite a whiel
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
where's jrue gonna go?
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link
funniest outcome would def be philadelphia
hmm on second thought, maybe the heat would be funnier
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link