stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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Get rid of Ayton and build a bench

Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

so they got jrue ayton and a first + a couple prob good swaps

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link

gotta be flipping jrue no?

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

one would think theyd be moving jrue immediately maybe this deal even gets amended get at least like a first and a second for him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

The Blazers remain engaged elsewhere on deals and will are expected to immediately engage contending teams on trade talks to move on Jrue Holiday, sources tell ESPN. Portland is committed to its young group of talented guards. https://t.co/6IR7bcFVrr

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 27, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

miami couldve beat this deal if they wanted to

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:26 (one year ago) link

damn. and here I thought the heat trade was just a formality at this point

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link

the number of points the suns will have scored on them this year is going to be so high

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link

Because they lost Ayton?

Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:29 (one year ago) link

because of the whole roster but ayton to nurk is a defensive downgrade too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

so they basically traded a dame problem for a jrue problem + ayton and a first. i’m not sure when they flip jrue that this will net out much more than the idealized package from the heat, but it probably won’t be less in terms of draft assets. a lot of how this looks will depend on how good ayton really is

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

Oh didn’t realize nurk was bad on d

Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

congrats frogs bucks live, sorry jord heat wouldve been nice with dame but they didnt want to empty the bank for him which is prob smart

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link

I personally do not believe in Ayton

Heez, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

i also do not

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

ah well nevertheless

"I don’t want to play for any other team. I think we have a chance to continue to do great things as the #Bucks team and organization so I want to be in Milwaukee.” - Jrue Holiday https://t.co/qNfDBRl3vu

— Jim Owczarski (@JimOwczarski) September 26, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:32 (one year ago) link

interesting

Giannis https://t.co/x44aDOW4XM

— Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) May 15, 2022

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

i really did not think the bucks had the stuff to get dame so hats off to them, high pressure sitch too what with giannis publicly threatening them every day

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

i think ayton makes sense in theory insofar as the blazers won’t be asking him to be much more than a pretty good center. whether you can win a title with him isn’t entering into the equation. but he will prob want a lot of shots & was a general malcontent and perhaps not a great professional role model in phoenix so it seems like a potentially combustible combo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

xp same I'm stunned they pulled it off

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:38 (one year ago) link

suns basically dumped ayton and got some bodies huh. not sure how this helps them any way other than financially... maybe addition by subtraction in that team maybe hated him and the vibes will improve?

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

feels like a no brainer for the bucks. if giannis’ thing is not locking himself into an aging core then i feel like this only compounds that, but if you figure that he’s leaving anyway this gives you a much better chance to win in the next two seasons. you were already staring down the barrel of financial oblivion anyway

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:42 (one year ago) link

the suns aspect of this seems pretty atrocious, i’m no huge fan of ayton but i would’ve thought his value was greater than nurkic who is actively bad and grayson allen and nasir little. but maybe not

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:43 (one year ago) link

yeah thats pretty rough for a guy you just maxed out last off season

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

so much bad press around him tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:45 (one year ago) link

maybe addition by subtraction in that team maybe hated him and the vibes will improve?

― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, September 27, 2023 2:41 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the team obvs did hate him

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:46 (one year ago) link

No https://t.co/CUqIrlxDOv

— Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) February 18, 2021

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

nice work by portland pulling this off. and a coup for the bucks obv.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT86K3tJv/

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

So Milwaukee's SG is Malik Beasley now? Don't love that. Or Pat Connaughton playing small? They could use a guy.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

yeah backcourt defense could be an issue

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

they do have a spot open

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link

also I'm pretty amazed at the implosion of this Suns team, nearly everyone but Booker is gone from that 2021 Finals team which seemed like it was gonna stay intact for quite a whiel

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

where's jrue gonna go?

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

funniest outcome would def be philadelphia

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

hmm on second thought, maybe the heat would be funnier

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:19 (one year ago) link

the jrue aspect is interesting since he has 1 year left on his deal he's theoretically tradable anywhere, but i'll be curious to see if he tries to apply pressure to get traded to a team that will extend him. will portland do right by jrue?!

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

Dang! Congrats frogbs!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:21 (one year ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

nearly bought tickets to the season opener before finding out the second game was like 65% cheaper lol

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link

Jrue for Lowry would seem to make some sense

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

now thats what i call a trade

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link

Milwaukee didn't really give up much to get a genuine superstar level player, obviously the situation was weird for Portland but still

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:42 (one year ago) link

yet another star confirmed to be less valuable than rudy gobert

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

I drink to forget

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

Milwaukee didn't really give up much to get a genuine superstar level player, obviously the situation was weird for Portland but still

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:42 PM (three minutes ago)

the concerns that other teams had about what the end of his contract would mean for their franchise is less of a concern for the bucks, who are gonna be in the gutter in two years one way or another. the justification that ppl made for the beal-to-suns trade -- when you're already all in you might as well double down -- applies more genuinely here imo, since the bucks actually have a proven title core whereas the suns have a fake basketball team

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

Jrue's more talented than this thread is giving him credit for - I def think the Heat go after him. But many other teams too. I mean, can imagine the Warriors trading CP3 and Kuminga for him? Doubt Portland does it but it's out there. Going to be a pretty interesting lead up to training camp next week

octobeard, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

Jrue definitely has a couple good years left but if he loses a step on defense he might be kinda unplayable. I mean he shot like 25% in the playoffs with Milwaukee

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:23 (one year ago) link


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