stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

hmm on second thought, maybe the heat would be funnier

the jrue aspect is interesting since he has 1 year left on his deal he's theoretically tradable anywhere, but i'll be curious to see if he tries to apply pressure to get traded to a team that will extend him. will portland do right by jrue?!

Dang! Congrats frogbs!

https://x.com/WorldWideWob/status/1707103184051904556?s=20

lol

nearly bought tickets to the season opener before finding out the second game was like 65% cheaper lol

Jrue for Lowry would seem to make some sense

now thats what i call a trade

Milwaukee didn't really give up much to get a genuine superstar level player, obviously the situation was weird for Portland but still

yet another star confirmed to be less valuable than rudy gobert

I drink to forget

Milwaukee didn't really give up much to get a genuine superstar level player, obviously the situation was weird for Portland but still

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:42 PM (three minutes ago)

the concerns that other teams had about what the end of his contract would mean for their franchise is less of a concern for the bucks, who are gonna be in the gutter in two years one way or another. the justification that ppl made for the beal-to-suns trade -- when you're already all in you might as well double down -- applies more genuinely here imo, since the bucks actually have a proven title core whereas the suns have a fake basketball team

Jrue's more talented than this thread is giving him credit for - I def think the Heat go after him. But many other teams too. I mean, can imagine the Warriors trading CP3 and Kuminga for him? Doubt Portland does it but it's out there. Going to be a pretty interesting lead up to training camp next week

Jrue definitely has a couple good years left but if he loses a step on defense he might be kinda unplayable. I mean he shot like 25% in the playoffs with Milwaukee

Fair, I'm def assuming the defense effort is still there, and he might not be a starter, but he's going to be flipped for at least one more first round pick or pick swap I would imagine.

One thing to consider - he might not opt out of his contract if he's injured. So I'd imagine Portland tries and gets rid of him ASAP, and for at minimum an expiring contract with no risk (i.e. CP3), but they'll want some cream on top: either a pick or young asset. Should be interesting to see where he goes. I would bet he's off the Blazers' roster by Sunday

i don't think jrue makes a lot of sense for the heat. they need more offensive juice.

i feel like they get two protected firsts and salary filler for jrue and this trade basically ends up as the herro + three firsts + swaps deal everyone obsessed over except you get ayton instead of herro

Also - do they keep Ayton? I guess that dude finally got what he wanted: purgatory. Now he can coast and be ignored by the media for a few years.

I mean how do they get two protected firsts from Jrue when he's got those issues? I'd be shocked if they get more than 1. Maybe a 1st and a 2nd.

real loser in all this is Mike Budenholzer, gotta hurt to miss out on this opportunity.

this trade basically ends up as the herro + three firsts + swaps deal everyone obsessed over except you get ayton instead of herro

well except those mil picks and swaps from the late '20s could be really incredible assets. miami will always be at least semi-competitive

Who is playing defense on the perimeter for the Bucks?

Holiday would fit in great on Philly. I am wondering if they could route Harden somehow in order to make that happen.

holiday to philly, cp3 to portland where he gets bought out, harden to dubs what could go wrong

Sign me up.

maybe this is the year all the "wouldn't it be cool if..." trades actually happen. I mean we're off to a good start

lets do this

trades baby

well except those mil picks and swaps from the late '20s could be really incredible assets. miami will always be at least semi-competitive

― Clay, Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:40 PM (ten minutes ago)

yeah maybe. maybe not. pat riley is gonna be 84 in 2029. i think if someone did a data based analysis on the potential value of heat vs bucks picks in 28-29-30 the answer would be that they project to have roughly the same amount of value

honestly from a pure basketball spectacle standpoint would love to somehow get dame on the giannis bucks

― Clay, Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:20 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

from a pure spectacle standpoint i would love to become suddenly wealthy

Super EXCITED for my next chapter. @Suns ☀️☀️💪🏻 pic.twitter.com/H6mLmAgXKg

— Jusuf Nurkić 🇧🇦 (@bosnianbeast27) September 27, 2023

ok fuck the suns for real now

blazer FO is probably thinking 'maybe if ayton gets away from PHX we can fix him', which is almost always a delusion. it's not like the suns haven't been giving him plenty of minutes to show off his game skills. you can see exactly what you're getting with him. dame playing w/ giannis shld be interesting as heck.

i wonder if theyre even that into him or he just fit into the deal good

he gives them a young big guy who balances out their roster, i think it makes sense for them in a very unexciting way. maybe cronin is big on him idk but he fits their roster well. it's only when the conversation is held on the grounds of whether the blazers got a justifiable return for a player of dame's caliber where you're kinda like :-/ ... but that was always gonna be the case, this is just a different flavor of :-/ than we thought

yeah hes fine and its not like theyre worried about him showing up in the playoffs

Book and KD went to the Bahamas earlier this summer and worked out together without Ayton. There was no way the Suns were going into training camp with him still on the roster

— sreekar (@sreekyshooter) September 27, 2023

what a horrible timeline for the guy you took number 1 over luka, lord

ayton will put up better numbers for sure. but you just cant teach a guy to care beyond his capacity to care.

they just need to put him on one of those screen time apps

yeah blazers could use a young big with some upside, and it’s easy to tell yourself it’ll turn around somewhere new. dumping nurk’s deal is a plus. taking a flyer on a guy who went 18 and 11 last year isn’t the worst idea.

The Phoenix Suns got a lot better and a much deeper roster with Jusuf Nurkic, Grayson Allen, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson. The Lakers are the best in the West followed by Phoenix and Denver behind them.

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) September 27, 2023

did the suns really get a lot better going from ayton to nurk, adding grayson allen, and two guys have never moved a needle

rare miss from magic

i am pumped to watch this suns team, such a strange roster construction

Watch this moment from last season’s All-Star Draft.

Giannis picks Dame with his first pick instead of Jrue. LeBron smells fish and calls it out. pic.twitter.com/I1nQW9uwfj

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) September 27, 2023

we'll never know how much of it was dumb luck but the blazers choice to take this deep into the offseason appears to have worked out how they wanted--not sure this deal was available before giannis started his september media tour.

i guess the part that was clear dumb luck was the suns having decided they'd take just about anything to get rid of ayton.

windhorst said on his podcast that the nurkic for ayton swap was agreed to a week or two ago. it seems like they were just waiting around to potentially build it into whatever dame trade portland ended up executing. it explains why phoenix is in the middle of all this just to get nurkic, grayson & little. it seems like now that he's gone the media guys feel comfortable saying that the team was never going to bring him back this season

that's crazy, i don't know what else to say

Suns big thing for me is I just don't think KD is ever going to stay healthy