stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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shouldnt the spurs be looking for situations where they get salary dumped on them in exchange for picks (except for the fact that they have too many guys)

lag∞n, Saturday, 30 September 2023 22:51 (one year ago) link

i dont mind the strategy in general, but they need to consolidate some of those 2nd rounders into something that has a chance of actually improving their roster. the dejounte, poeltl, and derozan trades were all good at bringing some potentially quality draft spots (the 2024 TOR 1rp they have is only top 6 protected for ex) but a lot of these trades (cam payne, devonte graham) leave them with decentish money that gets wasted in service of 2nd rounders. feels like there are bigger fish out there idk.

oatly carmichael (m bison), Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

also

The Celtics are trading Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, 2024 GSW 1st, 2029 unprotected BOS first to the Blazers, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/gx53jyH1RG

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 1, 2023

The Celtics are trading Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, 2024 GSW 1st, 2029 unprotected BOS first to the Blazers, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/gx53jyH1RG

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 1, 2023

oatly carmichael (m bison), Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

lol whoops wasnt trying to double post

Final tally on Lillard trade: Portland gets Deandre Ayton, Robert Williams, Malcolm Brogdon, Toumani Camara, three first-round picks 2024 (Golden State, Top-4 protected), 2029 (Bucks and Celtics unprotected) and 2028 and 2030 Milwaukee pick swaps.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 1, 2023

oatly carmichael (m bison), Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:28 (one year ago) link

i can't keep track of the celtics' net in/out asset calculation this summer but it feels like basically a long shell game to reorient the team around porzingis of all people...

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

damn rob gone marcus gone its a new era

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

brogon rob and two firsts is an absolutely insane price for jrue

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:48 (one year ago) link

okay if they flip brogdon too Cronin is a genius

Clay, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

had a feeling they would get it done and the package would basically be that

call all destroyer, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

suspect brogdon currently has less than 1 first value celtics have been trying to trade him but if he plays well and stays healthy could prob get something at the deadline

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

blazers actually ended up getting a superstar haul for dame tip o the cap to them

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:52 (one year ago) link

celtics front court depth situation worries me the oft injured zinger and the old horf then... kornet, also before this trade they option of playing big but now theyre back to being stuck with one big lineups, but i do think theyre better now than last year and before the trade, jrue is a beast and he will be able to pick his spots on offense, brodgon and rob are both so injury prone you cant rely on them

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link

happy trails timelord

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lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 16:59 (one year ago) link

It’s not great that portland era now have a reason to cosplay as dr who at blazer games

Clay, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

*portlanders

Clay, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link

ha yeah shouldnt encourage them

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

zinger-jayson-jaylen-jrue-dwhite is a ridiculous defense

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

maybe kornet becomes a lil more playable since theyll be working out of a drop scheme with zinger idk

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

blazers getting a far out unprotected first from the celtics was coup

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:10 (one year ago) link

the last time we saw porzingis at center in the playoffs he was completely unplayable. he’s healthier now (in theory anyway) and the celtics perimeter defenders are obv very formidable. but man idk. i guess we’ll see how it plays out. maybe the celtics can invent like upside down defense

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:13 (one year ago) link

one good thing for the celtics when questionably rearranging their big man rotation is that the best defender against embiid in the playoffs is his own mind

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:16 (one year ago) link

its big al horford, who tbf does live in embiids head

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

zinger is a really good rim protector but teams will hunt him on the perimeter in the offs which maybe the celtics can just live with it since theyre such good defenders top to bottom, staying healthy is the main thing for him

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

i think we can say confidently that if they see the bucks in the playoffs playing drop coverage against pick and rolls is probably a bad idea. but mazzulla has a whole season to experiment

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link

yeah you cant just play a straight drop against guys like dame or really anyone these days its more of a multiple switches type thing to keep the big man back when you can, like denver does with joker or bucks with lopez

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:23 (one year ago) link

it did feel like the bucks and celtics rosters both hit a wall last playoffs but that the teams decided to take different approaches this offseason. but then the bucks switched up and now the celtics are directly connected to their overhaul. it should be a very fun year in the east

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link

yeah celtics and bucks both loaded up and should be better but its far from guaranteed

then theres this guy whos laughing not crying thinks its funny actually

This off-season was fun lmao

— Joel Embiid (@JoelEmbiid) October 1, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

there’s no way to statistically quantify this (i don’t think) but it feels like jrue is the only player i can remember to get brought in as the final piece for an eventual champion and then also be shipped out as the scapegoat (of sorts) for the same core of players

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:27 (one year ago) link

yeah was thinking the same, funny stich

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

and then traded again to the ex team’s rival as the final piece to beat them

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:28 (one year ago) link

celtics winning this year would be poetic from a jrue standpoint

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link

weve got to be getting close to n embiid trade demand could happen this year if the sixers really suck

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:30 (one year ago) link

lot of change for the celtics but at least the hendrix levels are steady

This is not basketball-related, but one of Jrue's kids is named Hendrix. So the Celtics still have two dads (Derrick and Jrue) with a Hendrix, despite trading away Rob, who also has a kid named Hendrix. hard-hitting stuff

— Souichi Terada | 寺田惣一 (@SouichiTerada) October 1, 2023

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:43 (one year ago) link

So not only did Joe Cronin not trade with the Heat…..He traded with Miami’s two biggest conference rivals, made them better teams, took back a better package and gave those rivals the one thing that the Heat needed to make a leap.

I got that right?

— Tony Jones (@Tjonesonthenba) October 1, 2023

nothing is handed to you in this life…

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

some people questioned my read that the blazers seemed mad at the heat... everyone has their own path to travel in this life

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

xp also made giannis switching teams less likely, tho the heat prob didnt have the pieces for that deal anyway

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:48 (one year ago) link

jrues you can use

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link

Very happy here that the blazers found a way to get several big men in exchange for dame. trading for herro would have made for the stupidest roster on earth. getting rob will make ayton work for his minutes. Maybe brogdon gets healthy again. could be a fun season (shld be read as: hoorah for messy drama!).

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link

also funny that portland traded dame to a contender but also routed the guy who has most destroyed him over the years to a conference rival

Clay, Sunday, 1 October 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

https://x.com/tjonesonthenba/status/1708531892541435933?s=46&t=delhXlmZBYazm252j4iaFA

there’s a timeline where the heat’s two main rivals giving up boatloads of assets for two 33 year old point guards on cap busting contracts is actually a blessing in disguise

my last memories of jrue holiday, jaylen brown, khris middleton etc not exactly keeping me up at night

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 October 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link

one could say you're not mad actually u think its funny

oatly carmichael (m bison), Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link

hahaha

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

yeah the heat are just biding their time at this point until bam and tyler herro are ready to dominate the league

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

btw I wonder if this will be a referendum on the heat as a team that can just strongarm their way into a contender, like as a FA destination are they the lakers or are they the knicks? at some point riley is gonna be gone and what do they really have at that point? are they going to keep building contenders off of surplus value from undrafted guys?

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link

the heat feel like they're still potent, but with all the jockeying for top spot season-by-season they feel like they're falling back in a crowded pack. the west still feels like where the most nba champions will come from in the next five or six years. the nuggs will hold off the east for a season or two until some other west teams rise up to the top.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:14 (one year ago) link

heat can salvage their summer by adding Malcom Brogdon for the low low price of Tyler Herro and a couple firsts

Clay, Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

btw I wonder if this will be a referendum on the heat as a team that can just strongarm their way into a contender, like as a FA destination are they the lakers or are they the knicks?

― k3vin k., Sunday, October 1, 2023 4:08 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

star free agency doesnt really exist anymore current heat team is built off of really good moves and development, i think theyll prob remain near the top of trade demand destinations just as far as the place goes since players like miami, but obvs that only goes so far

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:57 (one year ago) link

lakers seem to be head and shoulders above everyone as far as that goes tho

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link

who knows what happens when rileys gone guess well see if its heat culture or riley culture, maybe spo will take over start slicking his hair back

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 October 2023 21:00 (one year ago) link

I will do it I’ll slick back my hair

Clay, Sunday, 1 October 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link


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