stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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yeah the porter jr deal was structured specifically so that he could be cut at any point, here is an old shams tweet on it

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
Kevin Porter Jr.’s four-year extension is only guaranteed for $15.86 million, all in Year 1, sources said. The contract includes June trigger dates after first season, but the Rockets can essentially release Porter at any point without further pay up to the $82.5M.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:38 (eight months ago) link

ah there you go

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:41 (eight months ago) link

still doesnt really make sense that houston wouldnt just waive him tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:43 (eight months ago) link

what i bet happened is that the front office signed KPJ to a longterm deal over the objections of ownership and after it predictably blew up they were scrambling to save face so that they don't have to go and tell fertita that he has to light $16m on fire

in reality they only saved like $5 million because oladipo makes almost $10m per year. fertita is cheap but i'm not sure he's that cheap

i guess OKC didn't really take on much more money in exchange for the picks, but was it really worth the appearances of it all?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 October 2023 18:54 (eight months ago) link

It theoretically improves their 2023-24 cap situation. Oladipo's contract is ideal salary ballast for a trade if they can find a building block at the deadline. I don't think they could afford to keep Porter for the same purpose.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:05 (eight months ago) link

yeah true

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:06 (eight months ago) link

While professional and engaged when present, James Harden has not attended any of the 76ers' preseason games and has participated in just one team practice scrimmage over 14 days of training camp, sources say. @Stadium NBA season preview show: https://t.co/m5FuxyMu1U

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) October 17, 2023



professional and engaged unless we’re actually gonna play basketball, in which case

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:20 (eight months ago) link

professional and engaged when present (never present)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:23 (eight months ago) link

guys i shoot better than james harden when i am present at the 76ers' team practice scrimmages, hand to god

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:40 (eight months ago) link

just thinkin bout the nba and dame-giannis is one of the alltime great offensive pairings right considering talent and fit

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:10 (eight months ago) link

like you can just not do all the sub optimal giannis possessions theres no reason anymore for him to do a bunch of dribbling into some dumb mid range fade away at least while dame is on the floor giannis can just play a big man game, that pick and roll will be completely unstoppable

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:18 (eight months ago) link

oh, they're absolutely unstoppable in what is as yet an imaginary future. the truly fun thing is that we can watch it unfold month by month and it will be interesting to see no matter the outcome

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:41 (eight months ago) link

standard health cavats aside i cant see them being anything less than great on offense together, bucks defense and supporting cast has some questions marks tho

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:14 (eight months ago) link

dame beasley backcourt is pretty flamable tho they do have giannis-lopez behind them which is good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:16 (eight months ago) link

maybe dame will try to play defense

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 01:25 (eight months ago) link

just thinkin bout the nba and dame-giannis is one of the alltime great offensive pairings right considering talent and fit

― lag∞n, Tuesday, October 17, 2023 7:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

like you can just not do all the sub optimal giannis possessions theres no reason anymore for him to do a bunch of dribbling into some dumb mid range fade away at least while dame is on the floor giannis can just play a big man game, that pick and roll will be completely unstoppable

― lag∞n, Tuesday, October 17, 2023 7:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ya it seems like it would suck to be in the eastern conference (;

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 October 2023 04:46 (eight months ago) link

tho like all these super teams they’re very dependent upon the health of their main dudes, both of those dudes have been pretty healthy but the thing about health is that it gets worse with age so previous success is no guarantee. I’d still rather be the celtics tbh

k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 October 2023 04:49 (eight months ago) link

I like the Celtics better too. More balanced, better defenders, younger.

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 05:51 (eight months ago) link

idk im not sure gonna have to see it for myself

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:25 (eight months ago) link

one thing i was thinking is the bucks are a nightmare matchup for the nuggets

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:26 (eight months ago) link

one thing i was thinking is the bucks are definitely winning another championship. you heard it here first folks

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:27 (eight months ago) link

frogb(elieve)s

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:40 (eight months ago) link

Gonna be keeping my eye on deandre Hunter with the way Bey’s been playing. Might need to move on

Heez, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:03 (eight months ago) link

hawks running into a “too many guys” problem?

oatly carmichael (m bison), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:34 (eight months ago) link

was just thinking about guys like hunter draft reaches described as "low ceiling high floor" and ive decided thats just not a thing if you have low ceiling thats because youre less talented which also means you have low floor

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:41 (eight months ago) link

i think its a real thing with 4 year guys you just have so much more info about their game to work with, high floor just means a low chance of busting out of the league completely

hunter isnt one of those though so idk what people were on about

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:56 (eight months ago) link

the hunter pick was a case of trying too hard to be perfect…like worrying about who fits w/trae young way more than just finding the most talented player.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:22 (eight months ago) link

yeah like you can see why they didnt take garland as hes so similar to trae but they wouldve been so much better off if they had

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:26 (eight months ago) link

feel like groupthink is another big reason teams reach for supposedly solid guys high in the draft, theres an accepted list of high upside guys and if theyre all used up so you take a solid guy at 6 and then devin booker goes 13th, teams are afraid to break with orthodoxy, personally if im drafting 6 im the gm the big guy and all the sure things are off the board im taking a shot on a guy i think has a chance to be great

lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:36 (eight months ago) link

i’m laughing at the idea that a team that’s gone 84-80 over the last two seasons might too *many* guys

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 October 2023 22:17 (eight months ago) link

i don’t think hunter was a case of being too cute about fit. in their minds they thought they were drafting the kinda 3/4 wing 3 and D player that fits on any team regardless of the roster. the problem is that hunter is a pretty average player & they compounded the mistake by giving him an extension

i won’t kill them for not taking garland bcuz i don’t think that’s a viable backcourt. i will say tho that the entire league except one team whiffed on cam johnson and if the hawks had taken him instead they would be in a much better place. he’s not the lockdown defender the hawks thought hunter would be but that’s pretty much the player they wanted to get

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 October 2023 22:22 (eight months ago) link

This guy is gonna need his own thread tbh

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, October 14, 2023 7:39 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah

Victor Wembanyama aka Wemby aka The Extraterrestrial

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 19 October 2023 00:47 (eight months ago) link

Hunter’s good y’all just not a top 3 guy on the roster of a great team. I was more pointing out Bey’s recent productivity. it’s good to have a lot of guys who can guard the 3 and 4

Heez, Thursday, 19 October 2023 01:27 (eight months ago) link

the clippers wont trade one first one swap and terance mann for james harden, lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:12 (eight months ago) link

its bc harden sucks and is only getting suckier

oatly carmichael (m bison), Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:14 (eight months ago) link

thats mean and not 100% true but it was fun to say

oatly carmichael (m bison), Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:14 (eight months ago) link

have a feeling the whole demanding a trade every year thing might be affecting his value

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:17 (eight months ago) link

harden does kinda suck if his presence means you are going to lose every elimination game

Clay, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:22 (eight months ago) link

there is that

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:23 (eight months ago) link

the clips just have no reason to do this now, they don't even know if their team is good or if their best guys will play more than 45 games

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:25 (eight months ago) link

i think james is in the right place (where he hates everyone and they all hate him and it is philadelphia)

Clay, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:31 (eight months ago) link

funny thing about this is are the clippers just fucking with the sixers why even talk to them if youre not planning on trading terance mann and a pick, idk maybe theyre irrationally attached to mann

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:45 (eight months ago) link

what hath the process wrought?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 19 October 2023 02:49 (eight months ago) link

the recess

ciderpress, Thursday, 19 October 2023 05:48 (eight months ago) link

well, i didn't have as good luck in my draft seeding in our company wolves tickets lottery, so i'm gonna go see the pistons. still was lucky, i got the 15th and final set of ticket available and they are very good seats (row M of the first deck) and you get a pair for $120 so pretty sweet either way

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 October 2023 18:52 (eight months ago) link

wtf rudy

Gobert getting it in the post against 6-foot-1 Jevon Carter pic.twitter.com/hl3W0a0Gvx

— Steph Noh (@StephNoh) October 20, 2023

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 October 2023 00:55 (eight months ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 00:58 (eight months ago) link

this is why none of the other players respect him

J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 01:04 (eight months ago) link

recall reading that he was always arguing for more post touches but is terrible in the post

lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 01:06 (eight months ago) link

yeah, it's not great!

call all destroyer, Friday, 20 October 2023 01:07 (eight months ago) link


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