there's this guy on the Bulls Julien Phillips and holy crap this guy can jump high
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 October 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
ive heard so much over the top praise for reaves over the last few months and it needs to stop. bill simmons leading the charge but others have jumped on board. hes a fine player but bill compared him to manu on the latest pod and it made me sick to my stomach lol. anyway here's a clip of him foul baiting, we should all be anti reaves this season obv
Get this fucking clown out the league. pic.twitter.com/B4CmV0ZnvG— Let Ray Cook (@CantStopDaRayne) October 20, 2023
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 20 October 2023 05:09 (one year ago) link
Reaves was a fun player for the Lakers down the stretch but he's definitely riding a wave of American sports fans' favorite narrative "scrappy white boy overcomes the odds by doing all the little things"
a.k.a. the Eckstein
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 20 October 2023 05:20 (one year ago) link
it is pretty cool he got here from being undrafted but his foul baiting is bad among the league worst
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 20 October 2023 05:21 (one year ago) link
lav otm there’s no basketball reason for this guy to be constantly elevated into, like, a borderline all star or whatever people are saying now
― Clay, Friday, 20 October 2023 05:24 (one year ago) link
well also people are utterly deranged about the lakers
they added some depth but lebron is 39 in a couple months. and ad is ad. none of those other guys matter if those two arent at their best when it matters.
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 20 October 2023 05:33 (one year ago) link
agreed that its well past time for the austin reaves backlash, america just doesnt know what to do when it sees a scrappy white laker
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 12:55 (one year ago) link
Kurt Rambis is pretty much the archetype for that whole thing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 October 2023 13:18 (one year ago) link
rambis was at least funny looking
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:57 (one year ago) link
Yeah the basic training glasses were a cool look
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link
Can't see Reaves ever looking tough like Rambis in a Bird vs Magic style doc
― Natural Wine • Danny Devito • Virginia (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link
caruso was the last one but that was more of an affectionate joke people didnt actually think he was good, of course he was actually good, reaves is good too but if he were on any other team no one would know his name
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:00 (one year ago) link
I like that Reaves' hair flops as much as he does. It's like his signature
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:48 (one year ago) link
idk reaves shot 52/39/86 last year and he can handle the ball. we still have to see what his true level is but if it’s hovering around 50/40 percentages then the hype is justified. he can’t defend tho
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
it’s also true that restricted FA severely depressed his salary and the lakers got him on an insane bargain. he will be making $14m in 25-26 when vassell is making $27m and desmond bane is making $37m
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 16:31 (one year ago) link
i mean if his numbers hold up with high usage hes a valuable player if hes just a complimentary guy whos picking his spots around stars that package of some offensive game without defense isnt too remarkable
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:01 (one year ago) link
i mean desmond bane shot 40% from 3 on 7 attempts a game, thats hard to do, reaves had half as many attempts
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link
bane is also 40%+ all three years in the league, reaves was at 32% last year
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link
*the year before last, hist first year
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:11 (one year ago) link
bane is like 25x better than reaves lol
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
ya
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:15 (one year ago) link
if reaves was really worth so much more than what he got someone shouldve tried to sign him
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
the latest in a long line of solid players extremely overpraised because they are lakers. caruso and kuzma walked so reaves could run
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:17 (one year ago) link
let us not forget talen horton-tucker
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 17:51 (one year ago) link
sorry jordan just does not make any sense
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:54 (one year ago) link
like maybe around the edges a slight discount sure, big discount nope
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link
maybe his agent sucks or maybe he just wanted to stay with the lakers for whatever reason or maybe he got around what hes worth
reaves shot 44% on 5.5 threes per game in the playoffs so the point about the volume of his shooting is really only related to his role being smaller during the season he was frankly great in the playoffs. if your guys’ argument is that we don’t have a real sample size on him & he might have just been really hot, that’s cool. i would agree. but you guys are saying he is/was pretend/fake good bcuz he’s on the lakers but when you play three playoff rounds against memphis, golden state, and denver and shoot 45/44/90 with a 4.6/1.6 assist to turnover ratio as a third option, i’m sorry but you are good until further notice. you guys are lying to yourselves. the point about bane being 25x better is laughable
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
yeah 15 games or whatever it was isnt a big enough sample size, its not a fraction of a big enough sample
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
word if that’s the argument i’ll ride with you guys but don’t make me explain how restricted free agency depresses salaries like i’m speaking to a group of children…
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 18:06 (one year ago) link
it unfortunately seems like he is actually good but once they start calling him part of the lakers' "big three" i will mute his name on twitter
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 October 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link
should also be noted that defenses were just not respecting him, and to his credit he burned them, but hes never been in a situation where defenses were thinking about him, i think you could make an argument he can be more of a primary creator based on watching him his skills and so forth, thats fine and reasonable but in that case youre projecting something that theres no hard evidence of yet
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link
jerami grant $160m, kyle kuzma $90m, reaves/grant williams/herb jones $53m exactly hmm idk weird the guys who were RFA all signed the same deal but prob nothing there. anyway these salaries all accurately reflect the gaps in value between these players
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 18:10 (one year ago) link
not sure how to tell you this but grant williams isnt as good as kyle kuzmia or jerami grant
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:12 (one year ago) link
yes i can see that bcuz one has a 90 next to their name and one has a 53, therefore i am able to understand how good one player is versus the other
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
youre making a lot of sense right now
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link
anyway restricted free agency depresses salaries a little bit and obviously there are other random and particular in contract factors teams hand out too big contracts like grant wasnt finding a max from any other team but portland, but the celtics traded g williams cause they didnt even want to give him $53m, i dont think there was much more out there for him even if he was unrestricted
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:19 (one year ago) link
it will be tougher when defenses are paying attention to him. he had a lot of those shots in the west finals where denver didn’t even realize he was on the floor and he got uncontested lay ups when everyone was all the way on the other end of the court. the arena PA had to announce that basketball is played with 10 players just to remind the nuggets
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link
i just watched a video yesterday where noted defense expert alex caruso was commenting on the fact that no one was paying attention to reaves in the playoffs, and watching them myself that was also my observation
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:23 (one year ago) link
but its not like its for no reason when theres a lebron ad pick and roll the defense might have other things on its mind
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 18:24 (one year ago) link
i think he would be overstretched as a second option, i think he’s clearly several rungs below jaylen brown, jamal murray etc but as a third option i think he’s a really good player. or he was clearly a really good player in the playoffs regardless of the reason — 44% 3pt and a 3/1 A:TO ratio at 36 mpg is really strong production any way you cut it. he gives some of it back on defense but he’s not tyler herro out there. i personally thought a lot of it was sustainable but we’ll see.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 October 2023 18:48 (one year ago) link
nba money is absurd, $53 million is like twice as much as even the best running backs will make in their careers
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 October 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
ok i just watched a bunch of his highlights and thing that stood out was his playmaking and general feel for the game he was def finding the holes in the defense making good reads etc, but idk hes 25 and doesnt have any discernible pop to his game that would lead me to believe hell ever be more than say a borderline starter a 4-7 guy, and if the shooting regresses hed be a more situational player
i think the way he could surpass that and become a real impact player is if he just ends up being a really good shooter, but seems pretty unlikely because most the shots hes taking now are totally standard catch and shoot, tho tbf he did get some off the dribble, and maybe thats in his game just not being utilized, i didnt see any evidence of your kyle kover style threes on the run tho tbf i didnt want the entire every austin reaves made 3 video, also his shot is not that fast and his dribble not that tight and physically he doesnt impress you tho i have seen him jump high but he generally doesnt play very athletically
in conclusion hes got some stuff going for him but nothing really jumps out other than the playmaking, and hes 25, if he was 20 itd be a whole other ballgame so to speak
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
he should get some burn this year tho be interesting to see what happens, him russell and vincent have some overlap in their games wonder how the minutes will shake out
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
Is Reaves better or worse than Grayson Allen?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 20 October 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link
lol no comment
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link
stirring the pot lol
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 20 October 2023 20:44 (one year ago) link