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the ball handling and shooting and stuff that OKC has is nice the problem w/ denver is that they have the best ballhandler in the league dictating every possession and better shooting too

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:51 (seven months ago) link

im a murray fan, i dont think its just some random thing that hes been great in the playoffs his combo of shooting off the dribble and attacking ability is really the mix you want from a guard, however i dont think hes guaranteed to outperform his regular season production by as much as weve seen in the past, its not really a normal thing, even if it maybe makes more sense with him because of his particular game and fit with jokic

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:53 (seven months ago) link

denver doesnt have better shooting than okc fwiw okc is clearly better

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:54 (seven months ago) link

neither of them take many threes which is kind of interesting, with denver it makes sense because they have joker flipping in five footers all day and they have some non shooters in the mix, but okc has the best 3pt% in the league while only taking the 18th most, thats leaving money on the table

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 17:59 (seven months ago) link

celtics are 2 in 3pt% while taking the most btw 😎

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:04 (seven months ago) link

you gotta boil a lot this stuff down at the end of the day and i'll take murray, KCP and MPJ over OKC's three best off ball shooters, whoever they are

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:08 (seven months ago) link

you gotta trim so much of the fat off denver's rotation and statistical ledger when projecting them for the playoffs, it's all guys who are not very good, drag their stats down etc

meanwhile in OKC's case guys bench guys like isiah joe and cason wallace who help prop their statistical profile up from a shooting perspective are gonna have their mins decreased in the playoffs. i'd imagine you'd see little of those guys in a denver series especially as it went on

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:11 (seven months ago) link

bet you see wallace and joe more actually just cause giddy wont be playable lol tho those minutes could go to hayward if hes up to speed, he can shoot too

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:18 (seven months ago) link

you gotta boil a lot this stuff down at the end of the day and i'll take murray, KCP and MPJ over OKC's three best off ball shooters, whoever they are

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 20, 2024 2:08 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

mjp and murray are legit shooters kcp isnt anything special in that regard, but doesnt really matter since the game isnt played three on three, you could make an argument that having more shooters is better than having a couple high end ones, tho i think that changes when you talk about guys who can hit threes off the dribble like murray which is just insanely valuable, and movement shooters like mpj are also very good way better than yr stand still catch and shoot guys, btw know who has the highest off the dribble 3pt% in the league this year, its jdub

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:18 (seven months ago) link

jdub is checking all the boxes for a superstar projection but no one wants to think about it because its too sick

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:22 (seven months ago) link

KCP is pretty certified to me at this point

if you line up both of these teams i feel like you have:

best players and no 1 ball handlers on both sides who are not frequent or great 3 pt shooters, tho have capability from there

one non shooter on both end, tho gordon did shoot 39% from 3 in last year's playoffs and we'll see how long giddey is in the starting line up

that leaves you w/ j dub, chet and dort vs murray, MPJ, and KCP as the guys most likely to be leveraging their shooting in off ball scenarios. obv j dub and murray have the ball a lot too but they're largely still orbiting the no 1 guy on the team. so those are the core 3 on each end for me and i'm taking denver's three guys

now you can switch out giddey for one of those other guys and then say that gordon sticks out like a sore thumb as a non shooter, but as i explained earlier i think making yourself smaller vs gordon presents an entirely new set of problems

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:27 (seven months ago) link

kcp is a guy who takes the easiest threes and hits them at a good rate, its not nothing and when combined with his elite d and general ability to play basketball hes a very good player a star role player even but hes just not a special shooter is all, hes a prob a lil above average for the type of player he is

widening the lens if giddy doesnt play then all the okc minutes go to shooters, which is pretty nice, i think is a pretty clear advantage for them

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:35 (seven months ago) link

and fwiw okc have been playing small all year, they know the downside of it, and have decided its still best for them, and theyre a very smart org, they didnt go out and get a big at the deadline even though they couldve had their pick, cant say i agree with it but the fact that a great org thinks this is the best way for them to play does give me pause, its not like they dont know joker is out there, tho on the other hand they might just be taking the long view here and will add some size later, but idk just get some dece backup to eat up some minutes the celtics got tillman for two seconds why not add a guy like that, they didnt seem to want to at all

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:39 (seven months ago) link

instead they got hayward who is more a guy that fits in with how they play

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:40 (seven months ago) link

feel like they might be galaxy braining this but who knows

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:41 (seven months ago) link

okcs top 11 by minutes played, wild stuff

https://i.imgur.com/iiUcRka.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:46 (seven months ago) link

*minutes per game

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 18:51 (seven months ago) link

okc like to play with a blur of motion and shooters, this is not something jokic/mpj/gordon like to guard they are too big for that. and you know that okc will lean into that style even more if they face denver

micah, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:43 (seven months ago) link

last season gordon shot 34% on threes and 39% in the playoffs vs his career average of 32%. he is back down to 28% this season. i wouldnt count on him catching fire again

micah, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 21:52 (seven months ago) link

yeah it’s an impending disaster imo

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:21 (seven months ago) link

no good

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:33 (seven months ago) link

NBA League Pass viewers will be able to opt-in to the platform’s betting view, which will feature point spreads, over-unders and moneyline odds.

maaaaaybe this means if you don't opt in, you'll be less barraged by gambling shit? not likely tho

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:21 (seven months ago) link

hate everything about this

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:29 (seven months ago) link

they’re already doing this on the app i got asked last night if i wanted to watch the heat game on gambling mode

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 21 March 2024 15:34 (seven months ago) link

mares cant hang with legs

lag∞n, Thursday, 21 March 2024 17:37 (seven months ago) link

Crazy. pic.twitter.com/nmCUV70X5T

— Stefan Bondy (@SbondyNBA) March 21, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:02 (seven months ago) link

jfc. props to jb for laying it out like that. was this in response to a question about the league pass announcement or about ohtani? too many gambling stories to keep track of

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 21 March 2024 20:33 (seven months ago) link

windy story about lebrons short teammate was good, some nice pre fame lebron details, lol his editor accusing him of wanting to cover lebron because he played for windys high school

lag∞n, Friday, 22 March 2024 19:30 (seven months ago) link

yeah that was great, he told that story well

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 22 March 2024 19:33 (seven months ago) link

kind of made me want to check out one of windy’s lebron books. I didn’t even realize that his hs coach is the coach at Duquesne now

circles, Saturday, 23 March 2024 16:52 (seven months ago) link

the story was great as was the continuous barrage from mcmahon and bontemps about him going to the duquesne game lol

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 March 2024 18:15 (seven months ago) link

Perk just diagnosed the Clippers with an acute shortage of swag which will be solved by Westbrook returning

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 March 2024 14:20 (seven months ago) link

I can’t keep up with such technical analysis. Dumb it down for me Perk.

Jeff, Monday, 25 March 2024 14:26 (seven months ago) link

youre always going to be at a swag deficit with kawhi as your best player which you have to offset by just hooping

lag∞n, Monday, 25 March 2024 14:34 (seven months ago) link

SWAG

https://i.imgur.com/d4x2Mt1.png

lag∞n, Monday, 25 March 2024 14:38 (seven months ago) link

grear moment on the hoop collective pod today when they’re talking about mark cuban being described on TNT as the “proprietor” of the mavs. macmahon does his joke about needing to look up the word in the dictionary but then in trying to genuinely understand what it means for mark cuban to be the “proprietor” they actually read the definition on air. turns out *i* didn’t exactly know what proprietor means!

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:43 (seven months ago) link

great** …

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 14:44 (seven months ago) link

haha i did not know the technical definition of proprietor either, but now i know that mark cuban definitely is not meeting it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 March 2024 15:47 (seven months ago) link

jj lbj pod is good cos he seems to be the only person that can rib him into admitting the funny stuff

This is my favorite player podcast moment of all time pic.twitter.com/ZIG0qoAJbV

— Jason Gallagher (@jga41agher) April 4, 2024

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 4 April 2024 19:14 (seven months ago) link

lol, reminds me of when a reporter asked tatum if he thinks much about when he dunked on lebron in the ecf his rookie season and he was like well yeah because i have a framed picture of it in my house

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 19:27 (seven months ago) link

just came to post exactly what spottie did — it’s nice to see lebron loosen up a little, he almost seems human

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 21:22 (seven months ago) link

Michael "Curious Mike" Porter Jr. doing the real journalism

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5Tue1aOlLn/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:01 (seven months ago) link

doing the lords work

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:07 (seven months ago) link

i wonder how much advance research he did

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:10 (seven months ago) link

Is MPJ a weird energy guy

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Sunday, 7 April 2024 03:19 (seven months ago) link

his off the court stuff…not really sure what to make of it tbh. comes from an extremely fucked up family, the kind that are jesus freaks but also into pyramid schemes…might be the most normal one in the family tho tbh. I try not to pay attention to it too much

brony james (k3vin k.), Sunday, 7 April 2024 03:45 (seven months ago) link

I’ve seen some questionable quotes from him but didn’t know about his fam. I need to do a deep dive

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Sunday, 7 April 2024 05:26 (seven months ago) link

crying @ someone at ESPN pressing a big red button and making windhorst do a full hour long lakers and warriors playoff preview

also crying for myself, the listener

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:36 (seven months ago) link

Was this like a Clockwork Orange type deal?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:37 (seven months ago) link


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