zion showed up but the rest of the pelicans are on bourbon street celebrating mardi gras
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:14 (one month ago) link
lebron james
― Clay, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:17 (one month ago) link
the oldest man in the world
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:20 (one month ago) link
Prob shoulda rolled with the team without Ingram and eased him back in
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:23 (one month ago) link
yeah
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:24 (one month ago) link
zion trying to win this game tho
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:26 (one month ago) link
i wish i could talk to someone at tnt to tell them how much i hate reggie millers commentary even if it wouldnt change anything it would be nice to let them know how i feel
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:31 (one month ago) link
a sternly worded letter about how Reggie Miller sucks
― Clay, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link
It’s sad that he brings down the goat harlen
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:33 (one month ago) link
breaking out my future predictions notebook just to make a note about zion. a decent dog candidate
― brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:37 (one month ago) link
the pelicans are in the game baby
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:44 (one month ago) link
ok this is getting interesting
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:44 (one month ago) link
Zion taking the Bron assignment is encouraging
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:44 (one month ago) link
plaicans figured out to not play ingram or cj
weirdest team in ages as far as awesome role players paired with unreliable stars
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:47 (one month ago) link
They have flexibility which is nice
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:49 (one month ago) link
ZION
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:49 (one month ago) link
bron waiting for the double instead of just going against alvarado
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link
Joseeeee
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link
being a pels fan is fun I should do this more
― brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link
alverado thumbs up from me what a guy
― Clay, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:50 (one month ago) link
very cool guy for sure
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:51 (one month ago) link
Our special boy is really doing it this is what we dreamed of
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:53 (one month ago) link
oh no
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:53 (one month ago) link
damn what’s up this is bad
― Clay, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:54 (one month ago) link
Oh no!!!!!
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:54 (one month ago) link
he didnt look injured
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:54 (one month ago) link
he threw the towel really hard must be something
its ok jose can just get guys dunks every time
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:55 (one month ago) link
i was just going to post that the thing about zion is i don't think he can do this in every game or even the majority of games but it's pretty spectacular when he does
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 01:56 (one month ago) link
lakers lucky af, i can't wait for the nuggets to run them in 5 games
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:00 (one month ago) link
yeah having to play the nugs isnt much reward
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:01 (one month ago) link
hoo ok cj
― brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:01 (one month ago) link
they should have waited til Zion was better before they started playing again
― Clay, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:03 (one month ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:04 (one month ago) link
ad fouled with .6 on the 24 pels cant catch a break
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:05 (one month ago) link
yeah atrocious iso by lebron that got bailed out
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:06 (one month ago) link
cj had ad all over him shouldve tried for the 4pt play
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:08 (one month ago) link
a couple of unrelated observations:
1) as a lebron respecter who has rooted for him at various points of his career, it’s a pretty surreal experience to see him just genuflect to the nuggets on live TV after winning a playoff game. once in a lifetime feeling to see lebron, a laker, say that about the nuggets
2) it’s cool that there’s something of a real rivalry between the two northern california teams
― brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:21 (one month ago) link
I think I have to root for the warriors here
― brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:25 (one month ago) link
alex len getting post season minutes over here
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:40 (one month ago) link
"this is a game of mistakes" --steve kerr
new this is a game of dropped
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:45 (one month ago) link
warriors should do something
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 02:51 (one month ago) link
kings faster to the ball
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:00 (one month ago) link
the warriors have some Hall of Fame players, but as a team they aren't good enough to control games any more
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:02 (one month ago) link
I have watched this so many times and I'm really amped up
Playoffs bay bay pic.twitter.com/lwEV8XSCo5— I Think You Should Zipline (@Billy_D2411) April 16, 2024
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:19 (one month ago) link
thats the stuff
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link
not watching the 9-10 games, what happens in there is none of our business
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:32 (one month ago) link
its not a place of honor
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 03:33 (one month ago) link
rip warriors
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 04:08 (one month ago) link
wolves are in a crazy spot, very rare for a team to break through like that but also feel so unsettled. rudy gobert is extension eligible this summer!
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:37 (yesterday) link
“ being a serious nba fan for better or for worse requires general manager cosplay”
This has been the worst change for the nba. More homers please
― Heez, Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:37 (yesterday) link
the problem with homers is theyre always wrong, have no idea what theyre talking about
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:41 (yesterday) link
i think the wolves learned a lot about their strengths and weaknesses in this playoff run my question is to what degree they are willing to or can make some alterations based on info they gleaned about themselves from the mavs series. bcuz i think they have to conclude that "build a team to beat denver" is not the same thing as "build a team that wins the western conference" and i don't blame them for making that mistake, but their master plan had one huge flaw which is that there are other great teams in the conference built in ways that can exploit the current construction of their team
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:42 (yesterday) link
and i mean the vast majority of nba fans are still homers anyway, sports radio is all homer centric, but there is like some hardcore nba expert conversation out there now
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:43 (yesterday) link
xpost I agree with that, honestly though you have to pick a direction and they did, I've seen this team flounder around with no clue as to what they were building for decades, so one of the things I liked about the Gobert trade (in addition to all the things not to like) was that - for me - it signaled that they were going in on a certain plan, going on on defense, going big when conventional wisdom said the league was going small, it was something and it almost worked, and worked way better than most people thought it would. it's hard to win a championship and it probably won't ever happen but at least they took a swing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:46 (yesterday) link
i think there's a lot of factors in sports culture in general (fantasy football etc) that have fueled the gm cosplay aspect of fandom but in the NBA it's especially pronounced bcuz the league rules around player movement have become so complicated that you really do need a level of CBA rule knowledge to even answer a basic question like "how can my favorite team get better this offsesaon?"
other pro sports are far less complicated. in the NFL there is a draft and then 4 years later players hit free agency. there is the franchise tag. the concept of guaranteed money. that's kinda about it. in baseball the trades are still very simple, there are very little rules around who can or can't be traded. you couldn't even trade draft picks in baseball until like five years ago or something.
NBA is the only league w/ salary matching rules that make every trade a math equation, the only league w/ pick protections, reverse pick protections, stepien rules etc blame the owners
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:49 (yesterday) link
its good imo like just how trades are such a big deal in the nba is a more interesting system of player movement than other sports, the cba lawyer part is hard to argue for but blockbuster trades cmon thats good stuff, the new apron situation is tilting towards the lawyer aspect via being more complicated and its going to prevent a lot of trades too, nba kinda shooting itself in the foot there, tho tbf shifting the league toward parity is good, tho forcing teardowns of contenders is prob gonna be ugly
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:55 (yesterday) link
I agree that homers should criticize the management when they are not putting a good product on the floor. It also helps in small markets to understand that you are always an underdog in that respect
― Heez, Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:56 (yesterday) link
I honestly don’t even remember who I’m supposed to be mad at for the Luka fiasco. Trae’s a fun player though so I’m just gonna hope he improves or they figure out how to build around him
― Heez, Saturday, 1 June 2024 17:57 (yesterday) link
― lag∞n, Saturday, June 1, 2024 1:55 PM (nineteen minutes ago)
idk i kinda hate this era of constant fake trade proposals as a result of high level free agency ceasing to exist. i liked the early 2010s era more, there were still blockbuster trades but there weren't *only* blockbuster trades. having summers where the biggest players changing teams in FA are like kyle lowry and fred van vleet isn't very fun imo
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:17 (yesterday) link
we also haven't even really hit any of the ramifications of like 3 teams hoarding a huge percentage of league's future trade assets, this stuff shouldn't be happening, you shouldn't need an ombudsman public GM like bobby marks around to explain the byzantine protections on every OKC pick, that shit is stupid. the league needs to get back to a place where teams largely own their own picks and are trading players for each other w/ a heavy dose of free agency
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:21 (yesterday) link
the heat trading lamar odom, caron butler and 1 first round pick for shaq is much cooler imo and much more digestible for the average fan than the kinda superstar trades we see nowadays like gobert and KD that require teams to completely gut their futures and are also going to take like 10 years to fully play out
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:23 (yesterday) link
i like trades much more than free agency its more fair, a good team just adding another good player without giving anything up feels like a swindle and their old team is sad, plus trades are more surprising free agency youre more likely to know whats up
counterpoint trade demands, knowing that a player is signing a big deal while planning a future trade demand, are a bummer
i do agree that the whole thing has gotten a lil out of whack tho, nba in its baroque era
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:27 (yesterday) link
might get a big free agent move this summer tho paul george to philly possible
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:30 (yesterday) link
to tie it altogether the wolves are in a tough spot looking at a big luxury tax bill while in the middle of an ownership dispute which i think we can all agree represents the bad side of the current nba laws
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:51 (yesterday) link
seems like arod is gonna win which is good, first time thats ever been said lol
Doesn't Arod want to gut the roster?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:53 (yesterday) link
i mean who knows really maybe both parties want to get under the tax
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 18:57 (yesterday) link
saw windhorst say that next year the team is slated to play more in luxury tax than in the entire history of the franchise combined. the team is good enough to justify paying it, but still
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 19:29 (yesterday) link
pay*
they gotta at least roll with it for another year, we know taylor has money he just sold part of the team for hundreds of millions of dollars, cant see the new ownership group dismantling a contender year one, unless they just dont have the money in which case why are they buying an nba team, guess the more likely danger is dumping salary around the edges that weakens the team a little
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 19:42 (yesterday) link
also bcuz of salary matching rules you can’t really just “dump salary” and clear out $20 million in one offseason. you can do that to duck the tax when you’re a few million over or whatever but in a sense the wolves payroll for next season is kinda baked in regardless of whether they’re able to make trades to shed salary 2-3 years down the road. so in that case there’s a strong specimens for just sticking w/ this team and seeing if you can win it next year unless some amazing offer comes along
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 20:01 (yesterday) link
yeah true kinda weird sitch the league has set up feel like its maybe not that good idk guess well see
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 June 2024 20:11 (yesterday) link
every time there’s another round of these changes the consequences end up being pretty unexpected, fully expect the same this time around
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 June 2024 20:35 (yesterday) link
Yep, always unintended consequences.
― Jeff, Saturday, 1 June 2024 20:41 (yesterday) link
I agree that homers should criticize the management when they are not putting a good product on the floor.
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 June 2024 21:52 (yesterday) link
I would like to talk about everything that went right for the Wolves this year, it was the most fun I've ever had watching basketball! they were a real team with an identity that played with real effort and heart. they led the West most of the season. The Wolves led the West! the Minnesota Timberwolves!
they did figure out how to make the two bigs lineup work after everyone said they were nuts. we had imo one of the most compelling young players in years coming into his own and making an enormous leap! we had NAZ REID! the city was absolutely crazy for this team and it was so fun to see the city come together around hoops like that. I had so many fun nights out watching with friends.
we beat Denver! no one would have thought that at the beginning of the season! we were on the Final Four, another thing any of the basketball smart guys would have never thought could happen. so we kinda laid an egg with Dallas, it happens, bad matchup or we just got really cold and Luka went nuclear, it doesn't cancel out what a ride this was.
I know a lot of you root for franchises where this is taken for granted or even expected but this is the best Wolves team I've ever watched and it was a real pleasure.
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, June 1, 2024 10:41 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
totally man. they’re a fun team and I’m super happy for you and their fans. I feel similarly — just grateful to see a title because I really didn’t expect it to happen ever. the way the year ended wasn’t great but I’m just lucky to be a fan of the team when jokic is there
― brony james (k3vin k.), Saturday, 1 June 2024 22:54 (yesterday) link
wrt Glen Taylor he comes off as a hayseed farmer old man but he's ultra rich, obv it's Internet estimations so grain of salt but his estimated net worth is more than Joe Lacob
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 2 June 2024 02:54 (two minutes ago) link