nba off season 2024 bud 2 suns etc

Seems like an upgrade to me

was thinking bud could hold out for something better but doesnt seem like there is

I think that’s the same contract they gave Vogel last year lol

it's a bit more i think

who will get 60 mil next year after bud also fails to do anything with their washed roster

https://i.imgur.com/dCe22Kf.png

quentin grimes half brother tyler myers is an nhl player and is taller than him

the lotto balls are back baby

oh wow thx 4 heads up love the lotto bb

atl and houston moved up!

love 2 acquire assets, this is what hoop dreams are made of

spurs move up! and get torontos pick

booooo

two picks at the same time baby

this draft isnt full of obvious potential all-stars, but getting two picks means they can address two needs at point and on the wing

theres always allstars in there just gotta chose right

hawks randomly winning the lottery in the worst draft ever would be really good

sad lol that detroit got the best odds again and once again got the 5th pick

lmaooooooooooooooooooo

alex sarr get ready to learn strip club buddy

hawks did it bb playin to #1 pick what a dream

lmaooooooo j0rd

curtis mayfield mentioned

reed sheppard to spurs feels right

theres always allstars in there just gotta chose right

― lag∞n, Sunday, May 12, 2024 3:25 PM (two minutes ago)

i forgot who said this on one of the podcasts recently but one of the guys, might've been hollinger, was arguing that we are generally very good at projecting the quality of the top 3 or top 5 in the draft -- those players are supposed to be pretty translatable, it's pretty rare we think the top 5 isn't good and then there's randomly 2 hall of famers in there or something. but after the top 8 or something even we basically have zero ability to understand or predict draft quality overall, which sounded right to me

its my greatest desire, my lil hoister

xp

it's pretty rare we think the top 5 isn't good and then there's randomly 2 hall of famers in there or something.

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Sunday, May 12, 2024 3:30 PM (seventeen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ant and lamelo fit the bill, no one liked that draft teams had no interest in trading into the top three, stuff like jaylen and jayson both going third and a lot of people thinking that was too high, i dont think the predictions are as good as hollinger does

well it's not that everyone understands precisely how to order the top 5, that's not the point. teams still mess up all the time. but for instance that tatum draft was considered to be loaded and it looks that way now. it's just that people thought it was gonna be fultz and lonzo who were the stars not tatum and fox

i mean there are big misses in the top five every year

ant as the no 1 pick def massively exceeding expectations, maybe alex sarr can be the next ant. but the rest of that top 5 is wiseman, lonzo, patrick williams and isaac okoro i don't think it's beating the bad top of draft allegations

lamelo made the allstar team his second season and was great from the moment he stepped on an nba court, hes just injured all the time, but he wouldve been a perennial allstar at the very least, and still could be

2020 draft hard to gauge bc of covid, this one is a more traditional "no clear #1 bc no one is that compelling" problem

like sarr at least should be a great defender in space, but still dont know what he'll do offensively. dillingham could be a maxey/trae young type offensive engine but he's so bad defensively. reed seems like a shoo-in high level rotation player but his lack of size lowers his ceiling. topic is not much of an outside shooter yet. no one knows if risacher's the real deal. clingan seems like a kessler archetype atp. holland and buzelis cant shoot, etc.

idk 2020 draft kinda perfectly illustrates the point to me, everyone thought that guys like okoro, williams, killian hayes, deni avdija were real stretches as top 10 picks, reflective of a weak class at the top and that's exactly how it has played out. but then you have guys like halliburton, maxey, bane, jaden mcdaniels, quickley later in the draft when it gets to the point that nobody actually has any ability to gauge year to year quality

the weak class at the top while there are better players in the middle of the draft is just a failure put the players in the right order theres nothing else going on

hmm, looking at that list of 2020 top 10 busts, common thread seems to be betting on positional size/athleticism in the absence of more revealing skill data and passing up talented small guards (maxey, quickley, bane's arms) in the process

the banes arms fallacy

tbf to the teams drafting for the nba is really hard it makes sense to fallback on size and athleticism cause at least the players have that, its kind of like drafting quarterbacks in the nfl where you just hope they can read the speed of complexity of the pro game but theres no way to test for it, except thats every nba player

That Houston pick that went into the top-3 is from Brooklyn. It was obvious at the time and even more so now that prioritizing the picks from Brooklyn over getting Ben Simmons was the right move.

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) May 12, 2024

the nets are skilled at team building, just none of them are the nets haha

Uh, what the fuck just happened?

da #1 pick its all yours who are you going to select

feel in my bones that a hawks-pelicans trade involving brandon ingram is imminent

for dejonte or trae

My immediate thought was some trade involving Trae but I’ll take the 7’1” man who weighs 217 what could go wrong

for dejonte or trae

― lag∞n, Sunday, May 12, 2024 3:22 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

feel like dejounte makes more sense if they keep CJ

feel like cj shouldnt factor into their decision making too much hes just not that good anymore

true, they may just prefer dejounte is of only to have some sort of defensive identity with herb jones

*if only

trae gives them more of what they need shooting and playmaking but zion and trae together on defense might be a non starter