nba off season 2024 bud 2 suns etc

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has elite feel for the game and an elite skill (passing), great height (6-6) for his position (pg)

the heat have done a good developing nikola jovic, but you can also watch highlights from his first ever summer league game and see that he just had a good feel for how to play basketball, naturally looked to pass, had good height even tho he was skinny, had some skill w/ the ball etc (read the first ever post on jordan's heat bløg). even if he is only ever a good bench player the four guys drafted ahead of him were david roddy, marjon beauchamp, blake wesley, and wendell moore jr. i still think feel for the game, ability + willingness to pass, ballhandling skill etc the euro way are underrated in the draft

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 June 2024 16:56 (one week ago) link

for sure, feel pretty confident that jovic is going to be much more than a good bench player too

lag∞n, Monday, 17 June 2024 16:58 (one week ago) link

another thing re castle is hes convinced hes a point guard refuses to workout for teams that already have one, its just weird theres no evidence that hes got the stuff to play there in the nba, i mean i get the vision he would be more valuable if it were true but idk if he just expects teams to believe him

lag∞n, Monday, 17 June 2024 17:03 (one week ago) link

i believe castle can become an average-ish shooter maybe, tho tbh im not that swayed by ft% as a harbinger of 3p potential if its just around league average. (ie tre jones came in with similar shooting woes, has improved a lot from the outside and from ft and he's still below average as a 3pt threat).

spurs desperately need a lead guard who is a threat to pull up from 3 and/or blow by defenders to create space for wemby, and i dont think castle will do either of those things well enough. if he cant be a starting pg, then hes kind of a utility wing which is a good bench player at least. guy who i like more: devin carter who has a lot of the same defensive upside as castle with a lot more offensive polish. my bias is guys with legit two-way skillsets and i like him more than any other guard prospect.

dont know what to make of williams bc he shot well from 3 but on very low volume. i think he will fit well as a transition threat, and he is archetypally the kind of player that the spurs could use as a wingmate for vassell. i think hes a high upside swing, i wouldnt mind it for them.

im not a huge topic fan, i think hes too slow and has too short arms to be a plus defender and i want players who can't be hunted on switches.

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:20 (one week ago) link

good reminder that very few things can overcome bad ownership

Source: The Bulls passed on multiple offers to trade Alex Caruso for multiple picks, including one in the top 10 of the 2024 draft

The reason? A mandate from ownership at the trade deadline to push for the playoffs

More —> https://t.co/AAdSMkcPrc

— Will Gottlieb (@Will_Gottlieb) June 17, 2024

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:28 (one week ago) link

lol thats so dumb

lag∞n, Monday, 17 June 2024 17:28 (one week ago) link

topic is a baller you cant build a team around all solid two way guys you need ballers

spurs could just trade for garland tho

xxp

lag∞n, Monday, 17 June 2024 17:29 (one week ago) link

A mandate from ownership at the trade deadline to push for the playoffs

lol

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 17 June 2024 17:49 (one week ago) link

xp imho carter has that dog in him. i dont hate topic, tho, i think he can hoop.

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 17 June 2024 18:14 (one week ago) link

Dallas Mavs welcome to the offs eason

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 03:39 (one week ago) link

all right which of these 20 guys are changing teams soon:
bron
pg13
trae
dejounte
ingram
kat
garland
mitchell
draymond
klay
randle
tobias
lavine
demar
caruso
butler
herro
mikal
kcp
lauri

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:45 (one week ago) link

a lot of the maybe thats kind of crazy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:47 (one week ago) link

Yah prob close to half of those

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:49 (one week ago) link

btw til thats 2nd apron teams get their 1rp bumped to the end of the line if they are in the 2nd apron in 3 out of 5 years, thats brazy

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:51 (one week ago) link

if you're boston thats no big deal youre already #30, if ur the suns lolllll

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:51 (one week ago) link

the 2nd apron penalties are very harsh lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:52 (one week ago) link

guys who prob arent going anywhere from that list bron mitchell kat dray mikal kcp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:52 (one week ago) link

i'd add randle to that list of guys who'll stay, bcz the knicks drastically overvalue him

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:56 (one week ago) link

if bron wants to win a title, he will leave la, but i think his heart's not in it and he'll take the big sack of cash

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:57 (one week ago) link

Unofficial luxury tax payments per team:

Golden St- $176.9M
LAC- $142.4M
Phoenix- $68.2M
Milwaukee- $52.5M
Boston- $43.8M
Denver- $20.2M
Miami- $15.7M
LA Lakers- $6.9M

The 22 teams below the tax are projected to receive $11.96M each.

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) June 18, 2024

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 17:57 (one week ago) link

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-offseason-plan-1a-is-to-avoid-luxury-tax-entirely-owner-joe-lacob-says/

i think the warriors are going to look a lot different next year

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 18:04 (one week ago) link

i'm taking the under on trades involving trae, dejounte, garland, mitchell, KAT, butler etc i think teams have sky high asking prices for players whose contracts make them questionable as longterm assets

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:00 (one week ago) link

where is all the demand to trade a bunch of assets for a PG coming from, this has yet to be adequately explained

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:01 (one week ago) link

yeah itd prob have to be more of a their teams are ready to move on type situation for some guys

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:03 (one week ago) link

garland to spurs has potential to be a more legit trade that makes sense for both teams

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:05 (one week ago) link

tho might require a third team in the mix idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:06 (one week ago) link

dejountes on a p reasonable contract imo, and i cant imagine cavs will keep both mitchell and garland.

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:10 (one week ago) link

all reports are pointing towards cleveland keeping mitchell so yeah they kinda have to move garland, pretty bad timing tho since he had such a bad season, could see them waiting and hoping he bounces back to start the season

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:16 (one week ago) link

the outline of a deal that makes sense is something like keldon+draft picks (2 1rps?) and salary filler (zach collins?) for darius. i think they could get him for far less than what theyd need for trae and i think he'd give you like 85% of what trae can. but its still an awkward defensive fit.

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:19 (one week ago) link

i kinda think dejounte would be perfect back on the spurs but i dont think atl would be willing to help the spurs unless they got at least two of their picks back.

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:21 (one week ago) link

garland is a good defender, i like him more than trae, injury history is troubling tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:21 (one week ago) link

i would love to be pleasantly surprised but every team is asking for a pick haul for their under contract assets and i just don't think any of these guys actually warrant that. dejounte murray was on a great contract at the deadline and the hawks couldn't find a deal they liked.

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 19:35 (one week ago) link

i think the warriors are going to look a lot different next year

The stuff I've seen about Klay is that he's 50/50 about staying (and he might be prioritizing the length of whatever new deal over total money). Also, that even if he leaves, that might not alleviate the cap crunch, because of various cap arcana.

Scott Baculum (Leee), Tuesday, 18 June 2024 20:26 (one week ago) link

all right which of these 20 guys are changing teams soon:

all of them

ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 June 2024 20:36 (one week ago) link

i'm taking the under on trades involving trae, dejounte, garland, mitchell, KAT, butler etc i think teams have sky high asking prices for players whose contracts make them questionable as longterm assets

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, June 18, 2024 3:00 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is right, for one my hunch is that the media always wishcasts more trades than actually happen (because it's easy and fun) and second there's no one out there who's actually worth selling the farm for. my guess would be this summer is pretty quiet on player movement and the following summer is insane as some of the unsuccessful second apron teams start blowing things up.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 01:33 (one week ago) link

A year unlike any other.

This was the 2023-2024 NBA Season. pic.twitter.com/kabK4aJ7Q6

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) June 18, 2024

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 02:40 (one week ago) link

the fact that the celtics barely appear in that until the very end tells a lot

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 03:16 (one week ago) link

All they did was win consistently all season without a lot of drama. But Joe Mazzula showed up calling LeBron a soft little boy, so that was good.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 03:42 (one week ago) link

Ooops! Ime Udoka, not Joe M.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 03:48 (one week ago) link

Lakers putting up the IST banner is high comedy, in the season that the Celtics passed them

symsymsym, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 04:00 (one week ago) link

otm that’s great stuff

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:15 (one week ago) link

There is a clarity in the organizational flow chart that was murky in the past. Cuban, despite his claims after selling the majority share of the franchise midseason to the Adelson and Dumont families, no longer has control of basketball operations. Harrison reports to new governor Patrick Dumont, who is kept informed but has shown trust in Harrison to handle roster personnel matters. Dumont rewarded both Harrison and Kidd with multi-year contract extensions during this playoff run.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40373806/nba-finals-2024-why-luka-doncic-kyrie-irving-mavericks-future-title-contenders

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:42 (one week ago) link

so cuban is basically a fan with a really good seat now

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 11:58 (one week ago) link

yup

lag∞n, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 12:01 (one week ago) link

ESPN Sources: After one season, the Detroit Pistons have dismissed coach Monty Williams — who leaves with five years and $65M-plus left on his deal. New President Trajan Langdon will move to make his own coaching hire now. pic.twitter.com/QHKivQS5o2

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 19, 2024

that golden parachute is crazy

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 13:56 (one week ago) link

wow

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 13:59 (one week ago) link

lol

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 14:07 (one week ago) link

the 65 million is a nice consolation, but it's still that sad Monty can't live out his dream of coaching the Detroit Pistons for the next 5 years

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 14:10 (one week ago) link

just embarrassing for everyone lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 19 June 2024 14:15 (one week ago) link

perhaps constantly running out bench-heavy lineups with the worst roster in the league was part of a 'the producers'-like plot

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 19 June 2024 14:16 (one week ago) link


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