lol
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 June 2024 00:17 (four months ago) link
atl v much looks worse on paper, and i doubt the spurs are playoff bound, so its lookig like 2 lotto picks again except this time its in the Good Draft
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Saturday, 29 June 2024 00:20 (four months ago) link
they should tank for cooper flagg
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 June 2024 00:21 (four months ago) link
this apparent retrenchment around trae young is weird
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 29 June 2024 01:19 (four months ago) link
apparently the offers were even less for trae than what they got for dejounte, tough spot
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 June 2024 01:21 (four months ago) link
yeah i get it, tough spot. i guess hoping now that jalen/deandre/dyson/zacch becomes a good wing rotation for him?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 29 June 2024 01:29 (four months ago) link
I do not think the hawks are building around trae at this point
― Heez, Saturday, 29 June 2024 04:09 (four months ago) link
do you think theyre going to trade him
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 June 2024 15:47 (four months ago) link
i think they will do neither
― ciderpress, Saturday, 29 June 2024 15:50 (four months ago) link
unless the spurs want him or if the spurs can redirect trae for something they DO want, there is no way trae gets traded now. atl has no incentive to tank until 2028.
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Saturday, 29 June 2024 15:53 (four months ago) link
lakers should be all like 'give us a discount if you want to play with your son'
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:05 (four months ago) link
I'm just gonna say it...I think it's cool that the Lakers drafted Bronny. I mean, come on, it's the 55th pick, was there really anyone that much better out there? and wasn't Bronny considered a legitimate prospect before his heart issue? why are people so upset that the Lakers, a team most people fucking hate, made a bad draft choice? I don't think he'll make the team but the idea that there will be a father-son duo in the league is super neat and I think it's nice that LeBron really wants that to be part of his legacy
― frogbs, Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:51 (four months ago) link
I just want to be a dick about it and I'm not going to examine my motives
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 June 2024 00:08 (four months ago) link
that's your god given right as a hoops fan. we can all hate the Lakers in whichever way we choose
― frogbs, Sunday, 30 June 2024 00:09 (four months ago) link
i think it's weird of bron to put the world's biggest spotlight on his son who isn't at all ready for the league and is going to get destroyed and embarrassed but lebron is a very weird dad from what i can tell
― Clay, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:06 (four months ago) link
its just some fake bs thats why people dont like it
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:14 (four months ago) link
right, i don't think it's the actual fact of it, but all the buildup culminating in stuff like this is just completely embarrassing:
“We’ve really seen growth in his shooting,” Pelinka said. “I think at the combine when we were there with the scouting staff, he was one of the leaders in making his shots in some of the drills. We really think he can turn into being an elite shot-maker.”
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:16 (four months ago) link
celtics should sign deuce
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:22 (four months ago) link
sam vecenie god bless him in his truth telling campaign about bronny said that theres never been a player drafted before that had bronnys combination of shortness and terrible stats, repeatedly scoffed and comparing him to even the meagerest nba players, joke ass situation
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:28 (four months ago) link
i don't know if people were saying he was 6'3 or 6'4 over the years or if i just assumed that to be the case, but when his official height came out it was pretty much over
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:32 (four months ago) link
sam seems like a nice positive guy and i'm sure it gave him no pleasure but it was great for one of the big draft guys to just come out and say it
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:33 (four months ago) link
its cool that lebron will be on the court with his son on his team at some point this season but thats the ONLY cool thing about it
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:34 (four months ago) link
shouldve just taken a fishing trip or whatever
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:41 (four months ago) link
I feel bad for Bronny but if we're already doing this then I demand to see a father-son in-game alley-oop
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:52 (four months ago) link
im willing to feel bad for bronny for one thousand dollars
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 01:58 (four months ago) link
in 1988 the dodgers took mike piazza in the 62nd round(!) of the MLB draft -- and only because piazza's dad grew up with tommy lasorda. this shit happens all the time
it'll be a little different if bronny earns a roster spot, but probably not too much different from that of thanasis with the bux, or larbon getting his podcast partner hired
― mookieproof, Sunday, 30 June 2024 03:10 (four months ago) link
i mean it is kind of hilarious people were defending it by saying "how can you criticize this but not Thanasis" like uh that dude's gotten nothing but criticism. literally the only good thing I've heard about him is "he's nice"
― frogbs, Sunday, 30 June 2024 03:12 (four months ago) link
Ohio, nepotism, heart problems, a white dork...bronny just sold a halfamillion brake pads
― 145 feet up in a Jeffrey Pine (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 30 June 2024 04:15 (four months ago) link
also I think the "uh oh Lebron is sleeping with his teammates mom" jokes are gonna be funny for a long time
― frogbs, Sunday, 30 June 2024 04:17 (four months ago) link
― mookieproof, Saturday, June 29, 2024 11:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
gonna need to look into this definition of all the time
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 07:27 (four months ago) link
Woj and SAS's whole rant about "there is nepotism at all levels in ownership and management, don't tell me you care about it now that Bronny got drafted" drove nuts - that sucks too!! and, I don't know, why don't you report on that if you're supposedly a journalist!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:36 (four months ago) link
i know right nepotism famously one of those things that people dont care about, also the idea that fans should be informed about nepotism in management and care as much about it as a situation with the most famous player on the most famous team is very silly, but ultimately its not even an argument its just some apologetics from a squirmy lil bootlicker
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:45 (four months ago) link
interesting to see which sports media ppl are going hard in defense of nepotism (woj, steven a), whos just going eh haha (most) saw someone on a pod refuse to talk about it lol, and whos just calling it like it is (vecenie)
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:48 (four months ago) link
partial credit to bob myers for pointing out that klutch was orchestrating the pick
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 13:58 (four months ago) link
He does have the news.
― Jeff, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:04 (four months ago) link
aside from this just being a bad look for the nba nepotism making a farce of the game etc i think its a really bad story for them, best thing for the league would prob be for sports media to just pretend like it didnt happen but you know theyre not going to do that, theres gonna be a big puffy interview with father and son fawning in game coverage the first time theyre on the floor together a lot of talking about it on tv, people already dont like the story because its corrupt and then you have coverage thats also corrupt ignoring or brushing off the majority opinion its just not going to leave a great aftertaste, and it all fits into the wider conspiratorial vibe of our current culture the world etc everythings fixed unaccountable elites bottomless bs
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:37 (four months ago) link
in basketball news
ESPN Sources: The Detroit Pistons are hiring J.B. Bickerstaff as the franchise’s next coach. Bickerstaff comes to the Pistons after consecutive trips to playoffs with Cavaliers —- including the Eastern Conference semifinals. pic.twitter.com/ZlX0CZIH6C— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2024
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:40 (four months ago) link
good luck jb!
the bulls-williams love affair continues
Patrick Williams intends to sign a five-year, $90 million deal to return to the Chicago Bulls, league sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. pic.twitter.com/L4ImJS29xf— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2024
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:41 (four months ago) link
btw keith smith https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA is really good about retweeting all the nba free agency news if you want a one stop feed
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:43 (four months ago) link
idk whats going on with the pg situation isnt he supposed to tamper to get this stuff worked out ahead of time
Paul George wanted to join the Warriors, but the Clippers were not interested in sending him there, per @timkawakami “The Warriors had agreed to give George a max, four-year extension upon arrival. They believed they had proposed several variations of a trade that the Clippers… pic.twitter.com/knEeO72HHe— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 30, 2024
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:47 (four months ago) link
clippers seems to believe that no one is willing to make him a better offer or that pg will give them a chance to exceed whatever he gets, or maybe they just figured if we trade him then we def dont get him but in free agency we might, risky move might walk away with nothing, wonder if theyd go into tank mode if so not resign harden try to trade kawhi
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:51 (four months ago) link
.@wojespn with the latest on Paul George:- The Clippers continue to hold firm on only offering three years while George seeks a full four-year max contract.- The Sixers and Magic are prepared to offer George a full max deal.- If Los Angeles doesn’t offer George four years,… pic.twitter.com/jAtUZScKhS— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 30, 2024
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 14:53 (four months ago) link
whats the clippers plan here they must think hes gonna let them match if so why not just offer the deal in the first place, maybe they want him to walk away, allows them to cut salary and trigger a rebuild in a face saving way
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:01 (four months ago) link
I've read conflicting things about it (PG is the one to opt out), and I think the part about the Warriors is probably spin to save face, since what they have to offer is slim pickings.
― Ella Minnow Picaresque (Leee), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:05 (four months ago) link
Can anyone tell me about Dyson Daniels.
― Heez, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:06 (four months ago) link
I think the part about the Warriors is probably spin to save face, since what they have to offer is slim pickings.
― Ella Minnow Picaresque (Leee), Sunday, June 30, 2024 11:05 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
makes sense tho kuminga + picks + filler seems pretty reasonable, idk if the warrios were willing to put more picks in tho, sounds like the clippers wouldnt be happy to stay in the tax with that team which makes sense if they lose pg at least get under the tax
Any possible PG13 trade between the Warriors and Clippers was always going to be complicated, but Warriors executives thought they’d solved the puzzle. From what I’ve heard, some combination (but definitely not all) of Wiggins, CP3, Jonathan Kuminga or Moses Moody plus one future first-round pick were put into discussions with the Clippers.
There were versions that would’ve limited the Clippers’ long-term money liability; there were versions that would’ve increased the future benefits. I’m told the Warriors likely would not have put Wiggins and Kuminga together into any offer, but also that it never got that far, anyway. If that’s what would’ve closed the deal … who knows.
My understanding is that the money concerns weighed heavily on the Clippers’ side. If PG13 leaves as a free agent, they get nothing back … but they also get out from the second apron and have more roster maneuverability.
If the Warriors had put Kuminga into a package for George, that would’ve been a risk all itself. The Warriors would’ve given up their most valuable young player for an older player who has had injury issues and would’ve been owed more than $260 million through the next five years, which would’ve essentially locked the Warriors into the luxury tax.
https://archive.ph/GbsHg#selection-1055.2-1087.351
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:14 (four months ago) link
dubs def could just be making stuff up for pr reasons
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:15 (four months ago) link
Yeah I read the same article, I just think Kuminga and stuff is a small return, but I suppose better than letting him walk, and yet it was the Clips who said no. Again, conflicting reports, because the article also mentions that letting PG walk gets them under the apron or something.
― Ella Minnow Picaresque (Leee), Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:21 (four months ago) link
id take kuminga + 2 firsts+ cp3 if i were the clippers you have cp3 for one year then his contract is over and youre out of the tax you got a solid young player and a couple picks from a team in decline
― lag∞n, Sunday, 30 June 2024 15:22 (four months ago) link