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they have to take salary back if they trade him, regardless they dont need to get the deal done

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 20:14 (one week ago) link

maybe thats where charlotte comes in they just take the salary into their cap space

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 20:19 (one week ago) link

warriors really want to back up the truck for lauri idk

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 20:21 (one week ago) link

on the one hand they will be better with lauri (and melton!) over klay, on the other hand how good is that and how barren will they be after dealing with ainge

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 1 July 2024 20:25 (one week ago) link

ainge is looking at the bridges trade and thinking it looks pretty good

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 20:33 (one week ago) link

farewell poku

This is up in the air pending structure, but I've got the Charlotte Hornets likely creating about $19M in cap space to take in Josh Green and Reggie Jackson.

This would involve waiving Aleksej Pokusevski, while keeping Miles Bridges' cap hold.

<$1M in cap space after trades.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 1, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 20:53 (one week ago) link

rip heaven needed a beta test version of chet

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:02 (one week ago) link

congrats to jayson tatum the richest man in the world

BREAKING: Boston Celtics and star Jayson Tatum have reached an agreement on a five-year, $315M supermax extension with a player option that is the largest contract in NBA history, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport. pic.twitter.com/qVpr94JiAa

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) July 1, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 21:43 (one week ago) link

I think only Shohei gets more per year? (except most of Shohei's is deferred)

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:50 (one week ago) link

thats a big contract

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Monday, 1 July 2024 21:52 (one week ago) link

congrats to jayson "elon musk" tatum

Clay, Monday, 1 July 2024 22:44 (one week ago) link

thats a whole lot of american dollars, he shd spend on something for himself like a nice pair of shoes

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 1 July 2024 22:45 (one week ago) link

btw i can only ever read "supermax" in the john cena wwe suuuuuperslam voice from the famous prank call meme

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Monday, 1 July 2024 22:46 (one week ago) link

Jason Tatum should buy us a large beach home to serve as ILH HQ

two seconds huh

The Mavericks have sent two second-round picks to the Warriors to complete the Klay Thompson sign-and-trade to Dallas, sources said.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 1, 2024

lag∞n, Monday, 1 July 2024 23:46 (one week ago) link

i wouldnt pay more than two seconds for the privilege of signing klay thompson to 3/50 with a player option

micah, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 00:32 (six days ago) link

i think the main thing they got from this is a 16M trade exception.

I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 00:50 (six days ago) link

short deal hes in charge of the cavs now

BREAKING: Cleveland Cavaliers All-Star guard Donovan Mitchell has agreed on a three-year, $150.3 million maximum contract extension that includes a player option for the 2027-2028 season, sources tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/Vu6QXGyK57

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2024

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 13:36 (six days ago) link

The worst kept secret in the NBA 🤫 pic.twitter.com/NVMcKZzG1t

— Tony Pesta (@Tony_Pesta) July 2, 2024

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 14:02 (six days ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 14:10 (six days ago) link

PG to philly is the perfect sixers era morey move in that people can talk about how he flipped this asset for that asset and then got this other asset meanwhile the pot at the end of the rainbow is a 34 year old with a checkered playoff history and nobody seems convinced that they're even that much closer to a title, relatively speaking

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:12 (six days ago) link

knicks roster still feels pretty incomplete to me w/ hartenstein leaving. they're gonna need to find a starting center by the trade deadline imo, i think this past year showed that even when robinson is healthy you want another borderline starter behind him. right now i think they could fall into the t wolves trap of building a team specifically to win one match up but then running into a different match up that they can't counter

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:17 (six days ago) link

that might be true, but I don’t think the east is deep enough for it to matter like it may have for the wolves

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:43 (six days ago) link

knicks can always play small re matchups both randle and og are pretty hefty dudes, robinsons health is obvs a concern but carrying two starting quality centers isnt really a thing in todays nba, regardless the knicks dont have the resources to do it, robinson and sims seems fine + they can pick up a cheap third/second string guy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:55 (six days ago) link

saric might be nice for them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 17:56 (six days ago) link

knicks can always play small re matchups both randle and og are pretty hefty dudes, robinsons health is obvs a concern but carrying two starting quality centers isnt really a thing in todays nba, regardless the knicks dont have the resources to do it, robinson and sims seems fine + they can pick up a cheap third/second string guy


robinson and randle aren’t trustworthy to me for both health and talent reasons if you’re really trying to get thru 4 playoff rounds

in a series where the knicks can play a lot of small ball they should match up great — we know who they are trying to beat here. k3vin is saying he doesn’t see any teams in the east who can capitalize on the way the knicks are built, i don’t agree. philly and milwaukee come to mind as major east opponents w/ front lines that i think could give a team whose biggest guys are OG, bridges, randle, and robinson trouble. it’s not an unsolvable problem by any stretch but imo they’re playing w/ fire if they think their bases are covered w/ this roster construction

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:41 (six days ago) link

philly has the same high-risk high-reward issues they’ve always had, as you correctly pointed out earlier. I don’t think it’s worth fretting about matchups with a team as unproven and liable to fall apart as they are.

milwaukee…yeah I just don’t see it. I think their run as serious contenders is probably over. they’re so old and rickety.

cleveland and orlando are the teams that normally you’d think are next up, but I think the talent gulf between the celtics/knicks/healthy sixers is so wide that I doubt it’ll matter.

that said the knicks obviously are going to look to shore up their big rotation in some way between now and the buyout deadline next year. I just don’t see how you can look at the trajectory of this team and not feel encouraged. then again, maybe they just get steamrolled by the celtics, no shame in that

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 18:49 (six days ago) link

thing id be worried about were i the knicks is not having an legit second option/enough on ball juice, theyve got brunson who is great obvs but after that its kinda dicey, feel like the best version of this team is elite defense and really good team offense/ball movement, think even then theyd have to get lucky to beat the celtics

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:06 (six days ago) link

knicks reportedly looking into walker kessler, which means mitch rob would likely be on the way out? (also deuce mcbride, probably)

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:11 (six days ago) link

i don't think philly or milwaukee need to be contenders to present issues for the knicks. very possible they see one of those teams in round 1. i'm not saying that it's some no doubt fatal flaw for the knics but in a 7 game series giannis, lopez, and portis would have some advantages over the knicks current bigs

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:26 (six days ago) link

do the knicks have anything left to trade for kessler

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:32 (six days ago) link

my overall point is just that if we are entering a parity driven era where the playoffs are decided as much by match ups as they are by pure talent than gearing yourself up to beat one certain type of team potentially leaves you vulnerable to being deficient in a different, unforeseen match up. we just saw this play out very visibly

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:45 (six days ago) link

do the knicks have anything left to trade for kessler

― lag∞n, Tuesday, July 2, 2024 2:32 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

mitch rob, mcbride, s&t precious, and they still somehow have lots of picks to trade

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:49 (six days ago) link

also feel like if you're gonna lean into playing small then you need a big who can shoot and also hold up on defense either in switches or at the rim, their only candidate for that role right now is randle i'm not sure he can check either box let alone both. they have plenty of time to figure out the right mix of bigs, i just don't think this is it

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:49 (six days ago) link

but i agree with j0rdan, embiid lit the knicks on fire during his minutes once mitch rob went down. and it’ll be hard for them to maintain their identity as a hard nosed rebounding team with their current big rotation

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:50 (six days ago) link

i still don't understand what happened w/ kessler where he was this undiscovered crown jewel of the trade future DPOY etc and then this year barely saw increased playing time and is now apparently on the trade block

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 19:52 (six days ago) link

it sounded like utah wasn’t happy with his effort, the S word was thrown around

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:00 (six days ago) link

shitty?

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:01 (six days ago) link

not really specific to kessler per se, but i think the post-apron world is one in which teams crave low-cost production, and rookies are (potentially) that for 4 years, but then you have to make real decisions once that four years is up and that usually means a big extension and now you're committed. utah has too much talent atm to tank, but they're not good. you'd rather, i guess, trade kessler before he's due a raise and then hit reset on some new rookie(s) next year or two.

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:04 (six days ago) link

i think ainge is just always willing to accept an overpay and hes thinking theres some sort of mania going on so hes putting it out there that jazz guys are available but really the situation is the same as always if youre willing to pay a premium hes willing to talk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:14 (six days ago) link

my overall point is just that if we are entering a parity driven era where the playoffs are decided as much by match ups as they are by pure talent than gearing yourself up to beat one certain type of team potentially leaves you vulnerable to being deficient in a different, unforeseen match up. we just saw this play out very visibly

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, July 2, 2024 3:45 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don’t think the knicks are constructed to beat a certain matchup though, I think they’re pretty well-rounded! they may themselves have matchup issues if they don’t bolster their bigs (though again, I think they will), but you just can’t account for every possible matchup and still build a team under the current cap structure (unless you’re the celtics maybe). and re: joe’s question about secondary playmaking, I think that’s the bet they’re placing on mikal bridges — probably miscast as a #1 option but a much better fit as a clear #2.

at the end of the day I think the knicks roster got better and you can come up with all sorts of matchup questions for any team, but I just don’t think it’s worth worrying about those specifics too much in july. so much about those teams whose matchups are in question could change between now and then

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:15 (six days ago) link

i still don't understand what happened w/ kessler where he was this undiscovered crown jewel of the trade future DPOY etc and then this year barely saw increased playing time and is now apparently on the trade block

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, July 2, 2024 3:52 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I haven’t looked too deeply into it but my guess is it’s 1) a character/coachability thing and/or 2) the internal metrics teams have are lower on him than the publicly available stuff

brony james (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:18 (six days ago) link

i dont think bridges is close to a championship 2, i mean look at what this years teams had jaylen and kyrie, murray last year, and brunson isnt a dominant 1 either

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:21 (six days ago) link

it’s not worrying about specifics to say that their big rotation currently has no depth and rests very heavily on players with worrying injury history

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:22 (six days ago) link

i think the depth is fine they got two centers two 4s they just need to add some deep bench guys, the injury situation is dicy tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:25 (six days ago) link

regular season depth & playoff depth are two different things, also their next biggest guy (OG) is also constantly hurt

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:27 (six days ago) link

you’d still like an upgrade on jericho sims and make him the deep bench guy rather than someone they need to rely on

precious is also an unrestricted free agent, so randle might be the only 4 on the roster at the moment

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:29 (six days ago) link

unless we’re counting anunoby as the other 4, which i guess he functionally will be

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:29 (six days ago) link

yeah og is good at the 4 maybe his best spot

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 July 2024 20:30 (six days ago) link


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