2022 NBA OFF SEASON DRAFT FREE AGENCY TAMPERING ETC

emoni bates is playing for memphis this year but wont be old enough for next years draft, do not recall seeing that before

seems like there's no consensus on the no 1 pick which is pretty interesting, paolo banchero seems like leader in the clubhouse as of now but i see various boards that have other guys at no. 1. he just had prob his best game of the season vs FSU tho, putting up 20-12-7 on 6-11 shooting and making tons of plays down the stretch, nice touch on his passes. i wonder how he'll test athletically, you don't necessarily see overwhelming athleticism in these clips, but he's skilled, poised, and very strong, some real men amongst boys plays. i don't have a great feel for what position ppl think he will play defensively, he's either a positionless fever dream or an exploitable tweener, i can't really tell. if he could passably play center he could be a monster but idk if that's in his future. he's a 34% shooter from deep and shoots 76% from the line, w/ his size the tools are there for a really great offensive player, consistent double-doubles w/ potential for some 20-10-5 type of seasons. feel like ben simmons is a decent comp and what you're giving up in athleticism w/ banchero you gain in overall offensive skill, especially in terms of scoring, as well as just overall oomph on the game. some good clips of his passing in the NC state game from last week, he has a calmness about him in the way that he reads the floor that feels very functional, not preternatural necessarily but if his court vision continues to grow along w/ the rest of his game he will likely be very hard to defend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtHdAPNNo8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ncXSRvEM3M

everyone seems to have holmgren banchero and jabari smith in some order as the top three, i think i still like holmgren just cause he has that combo of freakish body and great feel for the game that nba stars are made of, smith is your prototypical super athletic very big wing i can def see why teams would be very stoked on him, banchero has the most developed game but maybe lacks some of the elite athleticism length and so forth that could make him an absolute top guy idk

jabari is my #1 bc of the Big Wing thing, thats the most important position in hoops rn, chet worries me bc he just looks like a guy who will miss a lot of time, prove me wrong chet

if the spurs dont launch into the lottery, i like keegan murray from iowa lot. he's older (21 i think) but he's got a pretty nba-ready game from the looks of things

but who am i kidding the spurs are gonna draft another 6'5" combo guard

those top 3 guys all seem to have distinct strengths and weaknesses, no clear front-runner so far. will be interesting to see how it plays out based on their college seasons.

I think Jabari is overrated right now and people are overthinking the chet thing. Players don’t get injured because they’re skinny.

I worry Banchero will turn out to be Michael Beasley

I think Jabari is overrated right now and people are overthinking the chet thing. Players don’t get injured because they’re skinny.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 21, 2022 10:14 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

um yes they do!!!!!

penny, shaun livingston, kd, shawn bradley, manute bol, bol bol, pls dont think this is just me spreading more pro-fat propaganda

you know who doesnt miss many games OR meals

jokic

I worry Banchero will turn out to be Michael Beasley

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, January 21, 2022 11:16 AM (one hour ago)

yeah i can see that. marvin bagley & jahlil okafor two other duke guys w/o great athleticism who just dominated w/ size in college and then flamed out. beasley only averaged 1.6 apg in college tho, paolo is at double that, and he's bigger. also michael beasley who has his head screwed on straight & plays the game less selfishly could've been a good player albeit not a multi time all star or anything

i think i would prob pick chet no 1, in the event that you get any of the evan mobley skill set it will prob be worth it

the other thought i had when watching banchero was "what if obi toppin was good and didn't move like an abe lincoln impersonator on stilts"

lmao

jabari smith def seems like a top 3 pick to me, top 5 at absolute worst. if there's any jayson tatum out of the top group it would be him. his spot up shot is a bit slow to me, and the way the ball comes off his hand when he shoots FTs seems a bit weird. he does have a nice fadeaway midrange game tho, and his hands are very active on defense. 7' 2" wingspan. he's another one where i wonder how he tests athletically, you don't see him just killing guys at the rim in his clips... paging jayson tatum. he also only has a season high of four assists this year. i think he's prob below chet and banchero for me

clip of him putting up 25-7-1 w/ 4 blocks and 2 steals on the road vs alabama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBUYA1BxaME

chet's shot is so smooth. w/ his defensive potential i feel like he has to go number 1, at worst i feel like you're getting a porzingis type player w/ a better shot and a body potentially less conducive to leg injuries. at best you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley. in between maybe he's chris bosh w/ more rim protection. idk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ZpisXk6R8

yeah i like chet too, with his freakish arms crazy feel for the game and having all the offensive skills he should go 1 imho, you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley exactly he pretty clearly has the highest ceiling of the top guys, the reason hes not the consensus #1 right now is prob because hes not really featured on his team cause he plays next to an older player of the year candidate and that evaluators tend to underrate feel for the game being a true baller and so forth due to it being highly intangible

chets got the juice, the it factor

if jabari smith had an off the bounce game i could see the argument... but he doesnt

feel like chet will be one of those guys who have their aggressiveness questioned leading up to the draft drop a couple few spots then just come in and start doing insane things from day one in the nba

i feel like evan mobley is pretty strong proof of concept for chet, almost feels like it's lining up for it to be the perfect year to take a guy like this no 1 overall. chet maybe not as great defensively i mean mobley seems like a phenom but chet is far more developed as a shooter. w/ his shooting form/touch and natural shot blocking ability i just feel like he's the kind of high floor/high ceiling prospect you should be aiming for w/ a no 1 pick. i'm trying to imagine the worst case outcome for him if he has even average health for a big man. myles turner? jarren jackson jr? his overall feel just seems far superior to those guys and he's taller and he's a better shooter etc

and chet might even be mobley on D, i mean hes a defensive star

People are overthinking this, Chet is clearly the guy. Jabari has a really raw game that requires a lot of projection to see in the nba, Chet can shoot and handle.

tbf jabari can shoot good but yeah hes pretty raw

i hope yall are right abt slenderman

CHET HOLMGREN WITH 11 POINTS IN UNDER TWO MINUTES 🤯 pic.twitter.com/YBeBtOP71q

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 4, 2022

his last 4 games

23-12 4 blocks on 9-12 shooting, 3-5 from three
12-11 on 4-6 shooting, 4-6 from three
21-9 3 blocks on 7-8 shooting, 3-3 from three
22-9 4 blocks on 7-10 shooting, 2-4 from three

shooting 63/46/74 on the season

ok so MAYBE with modern medicine factored in he shd be #1

lol

chet looks like a phenom

Another day at the office for projected top pick Chet Holmgren: 21 PTS (12 FGAs), 15 REBS, 6 BLK, 3 STL in a win over USF. No other player in the draft who can do the things he can on both ends. Going to make a lot of his naysayers look silly. No. 1 prospect in this 2022 class. pic.twitter.com/BvnV51J04S

— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) February 25, 2022

dare i say kevin durant but an even better defender vibes??

Chet Holmgren tonight:

- 21 points
- 15 rebounds
- 6 blocks
- 3 steals
- 2 3-pointers

It’s the 2nd time this season he’s had at least 20 points, 15 boards, 5 blocks and 2 3-pointers in a game.

No other Division I player over the last decade has done that twice.

— Jared Berson (@JaredBerson) February 25, 2022

Chet Holmgren of @ZagMBB has played 5 true road games in his career. He is averaging 18.6 points, 14.6 rebounds and 4.2 blocks in those games.

He's the only Division I player in the last 25 years to average 18/14/4 over any span of 5 road games (let alone his first 5).

— Stats By STATS (@StatsBySTATS) February 25, 2022

it was a weird time because of COVID and I wasn't doing much but I'll never stop kicking myself for not going to see him play in high school, his HS was walking distance from my house

this guy has very long arms

Best Euroleague game of the season for 17-year old Victor Wembanyama with 14 points, 5 rebounds, 5 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals and a road win. The 7-3, projected No. 1 pick in 2023 showed his fantastic mobility, length, skill and feel for the game against high-level competition. pic.twitter.com/VSWdaV0AMq

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) March 23, 2022

dont think ive seen someone that tall get down in a stance like that

feel like he has some "deer running on ice" vibes too him but he looks like he's gonna be a complete monster on defense

draft xpress/espn guy called him the best prospect hes ever seen

i feel like chet is more coordinated and has a better shot but i can see why someone would look at him and think he's an ultimate freak of nature

i just watched a video of him and chet playing against each other and those are some crazy looking guys

At 17 he's not yet accustomed to operating a body with such long arms and legs, let alone perfecting his footwork and his moves. He looks very promising, though. Good timing and vision.

chet is crazy skilled but he still has some of that big man stiffness the wembanyamas flexibility is pretty wild, and filling up the box score of a euro league game at 17 is rare, its even more impressive when you consider that with huge guys it usually takes longer to develop

more of that game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7RTU8FtrM0

wembanyama is going to be a lot of fun to watch, sky-high potential

only thing that worries me, knowing nothing, is hes too tall

but maybe he can overcome by having the pliancy of a 6-10 guy

pray 4 kd

Kyrie Irving said the plan is to re-sign with the Nets this summer. Doesn’t want to leave Kevin Durant and wants to build a legacy in Brooklyn with him.

— Alex Schiffer (@Alex__Schiffer) March 26, 2022

a legacy of alienating everyone off the team

The Kings will miss the playoffs for the 16th consecutive season, a new NBA record.

Kings fans deserve better. pic.twitter.com/Yf3MKtAWFQ

— StatMuse (@statmuse) April 4, 2022

While we’re waiting for the season to start, there is some good hoop content on Netflix. Documentary on the 2008 Olympic “Redeem Team.”

new wembanyama just dropped

Outstanding debut for 17-year old Aday Mara in the Spanish @ACBCOM. 8 points, 4 rebounds in 19 minutes against Euroleague team Baskonia. The skilled 7'3 center with a 7'6 wingspan is one of the most promising prospects in Europe. pic.twitter.com/gxPSMFwONp

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) October 17, 2022

looks like a more traditional lumbering big

father/son bonding = putting headphones in to play one on one lol

👑 vs🤴🏾
Bronny & LeBron’s new commercial for @beatsbydre!

pic.twitter.com/bXb7UnCr5J

— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) October 17, 2022

idk I think that's cute!

BTW is the NBA ready to draft a guy named Scoot?

it is cute.

scoot is a GREAT athlete name.

Steve Ballmer has wanted to put Clippers games on a streaming service for years. Now he has one, ClipperVision, and 74 of the team’s 82 games will be broadcast there. I watched a test broadcast.

“This is our channel,” he said. https://t.co/b1FwoPwqYU

— Andrew Greif (@AndrewGreif) October 17, 2022

Kawhi looks like he should be holding up a newspaper with today’s date.

scoot is a GREAT athlete name.

I guess it's a SCUTE name.

love to pay $200 for 74 of the 82 clippers games

who wants to take the it upon themselves to star the regular season thread?

2022/23 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD "TANKING FOR WEMBANYAMA"

Dennis Schroder underwent a procedure to repair a ligament in his thumb today, according to Lakers coach Darvin Ham. He is expected to be sidelined 3-4 weeks, per Ham.

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) October 17, 2022

off to a good start!

per ham

okay

At the 6 PM ET buzzer: Atlanta Hawks forward De'Andre Hunter has agreed on a four-year, $95 million contract extension, his agents Thad Foucher and Joe Smith of @Wassbasketball tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/mDm6hZTosm

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 18, 2022

seems like an overpay idk

since it was announced by the agents i wonder how much of that money is in “unlikely guarantees”

the NBA shifting towards NFL style contract announcements of fake numbers to make agents and players look better is not pleasing to me

think they can only do 15% max in incentives, anyway is there any evidence hes a good player

that will be an overpay if hunter is who he’s mostly been the last few years (not a good player and always hurt) but won’t be if he’s the player he’s been in flashes. also if the cap dynamics change the way everyone is saying then it prob won’t be an overpay either way but after the received wisdom of the cap spike year turned out to be disastrously wrong for just about every single contract signed that summer i’m not taking this stuff about the new CBA on blind faith

hunter reminds me of RJ barrett where even when he’s having great games it just don’t feel like he has a dominant gear he can shift to

he did average 21 ppg on 56/46/80 shooting in round 1 last playoffs but it did feel like he was on a bit of a heater. he also doesn’t do anything else with the ball (4 rpg and an assist to TO ratio that was way underwater)

if he had been drafted 11th or whatever they wouldnt be giving him this deal, throwing good money after bad

totally forgot they traded up to get him lol, perfect guy to wait til 8th to see if hes still there

The Hawks traded up to acquire Hunter in the draft, making a deal with the Pelicans to move up from the eighth pick to the fourth selection to grab the former University of Virginia star.

you dont see the celtics throwing big money at grant williams no theyre saying hey buddy youve been great take this midlevel type deal, or at least i assume thats what theyre doing since they didnt agree to an extension lol

they're pretty fucked if he just stays this bad so i guess you roll the dice on him getting good and earning this, but it's just annoying that he has never like, done anything of note

this is how you deal with guys who have been pretty good okay nothing that special

No rookie extension deals for Phoenix's Cam Johnson, Charlotte's P.J. Washington or Boston's Grant Williams -- all headed to restricted free agency next summer, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) October 17, 2022

is someone going to swoop in with a godfather offer for dandre hunter next year i dont think so

yeah the idea of him getting much more than that extension is a fantasy, at his absolute best he's a high-end role player

https://i.imgur.com/uSmAZXm.png

this looks ridiculous to me when you throw hunter's extension in there but i guess atlanta has talked themselves into thinking they're realass contenders

i mean they do have a bunch of guys but on the other hand its hard to love it

capela or collins will get moved

i think moving collins was part of the plan all along except that no one really wants him too much

Weird team, could be fun tho

I said it would be difficult to overpay on a rookie extension this year. I did not say it would be impossible. https://t.co/GLjnZHV0dp

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) October 18, 2022

hahaha hollinger

an all time bad offseason for the hornets

James Bouknight was arrested on Oct. 16 for driving while impaired

He was most recently charged with reckless driving to endanger on Oct. 10, reckless driving-wanton disregard on Nov. 11, 2021, and again on Feb. 23, 2022, via https://t.co/8fxANs4mkO pic.twitter.com/8b13dRLpYw

— NBACentral (@TheNBACentral) October 17, 2022

yikes he needs to go to treatment not play basketball

On top of everything else, Charlotte FO does not seem to be the best judge of character/who is in a good place to help their basketball team uh play basketball

he needs a driver ffs

big honey is a national treasure

Nikola Jokic, on his excitement of playing with Jamal Murray again: “I love to play with him, of course. I know he’s gonna be really bad for the next 20 games, but we’re gonna survive.”

— Mike Singer (@msinger) October 18, 2022

lmao

bumping this thread to congratulate all of us on our otm pre-draft chet holmgren takes. matt armstrong get in here you rascal you

****

chet's shot is so smooth. w/ his defensive potential i feel like he has to go number 1, at worst i feel like you're getting a porzingis type player w/ a better shot and a body potentially less conducive to leg injuries. at best you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley. in between maybe he's chris bosh w/ more rim protection. idk

https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=f4ZpisXk6R8

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 26, 2022 2:16 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

yeah i like chet too, with his freakish arms crazy feel for the game and having all the offensive skills he should go 1 imho, you're potentially getting like karl towns crossed w/ evan mobley exactly he pretty clearly has the highest ceiling of the top guys, the reason hes not the consensus #1 right now is prob because hes not really featured on his team cause he plays next to an older player of the year candidate and that evaluators tend to underrate feel for the game being a true baller and so forth due to it being highly intangible

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:09 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

chets got the juice, the it factor

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:09 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

if jabari smith had an off the bounce game i could see the argument... but he doesnt

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:12 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

feel like chet will be one of those guys who have their aggressiveness questioned leading up to the draft drop a couple few spots then just come in and start doing insane things from day one in the nba

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:16 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

i feel like evan mobley is pretty strong proof of concept for chet, almost feels like it's lining up for it to be the perfect year to take a guy like this no 1 overall. chet maybe not as great defensively i mean mobley seems like a phenom but chet is far more developed as a shooter. w/ his shooting form/touch and natural shot blocking ability i just feel like he's the kind of high floor/high ceiling prospect you should be aiming for w/ a no 1 pick. i'm trying to imagine the worst case outcome for him if he has even average health for a big man. myles turner? jarren jackson jr? his overall feel just seems far superior to those guys and he's taller and he's a better shooter etc

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:22 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

and chet might even be mobley on D, i mean hes a defensive star

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 4:26 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

People are overthinking this, Chet is clearly the guy. Jabari has a really raw game that requires a lot of projection to see in the nba, Chet can shoot and handle.

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:46 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

tbf jabari can shoot good but yeah hes pretty raw

― lag∞n, Wednesday, January 26, 2022 5:55 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

i hope yall are right abt slenderman

― class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, January 26, 2022 8:02 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

CHET HOLMGREN WITH 11 POINTS IN UNDER TWO MINUTES 🤯 pic.twitter.com/YBeBtOP71q
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 4, 2022

man his shot is so pure. also sandwiched in there him blocking the other center right at the rim and going the entire length of the court with the ball to score
― J0rdan S., Friday, February 4, 2022 12:07 AM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

his last 4 games

23-12 4 blocks on 9-12 shooting, 3-5 from three
12-11 on 4-6 shooting, 4-6 from three
21-9 3 blocks on 7-8 shooting, 3-3 from three
22-9 4 blocks on 7-10 shooting, 2-4 from three

shooting 63/46/74 on the season

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 4, 2022 12:16 AM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

ok so MAYBE with modern medicine factored in he shd be #1

― class project pat (m bison), Friday, February 4, 2022 9:19 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

lol

― lag∞n, Friday, February 4, 2022 9:20 PM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

three weeks pass...
chet looks like a phenom

Another day at the office for projected top pick Chet Holmgren: 21 PTS (12 FGAs), 15 REBS, 6 BLK, 3 STL in a win over USF. No other player in the draft who can do the things he can on both ends. Going to make a lot of his naysayers look silly. No. 1 prospect in this 2022 class. pic.twitter.com/BvnV51J04S
— Mike Schmitz (@Mike_Schmitz) February 25, 2022
― J0rdan S., Friday, February 25, 2022 3:25 AM (one year ago)bookmarkflaglink

dare i say kevin durant but an even better defender vibes??

― J0rdan S., Friday, February 25, 2022 3:26 AM (one year ago)

high five team

aw i like how i did very little hype work but still got my name on the class project, this is just like ap physics all over again

also my name was class project pat, v appropriate

ha

bison i think you had some pro chet posts in that thread around the same time

praying 4 victor to end up a spur, i cannot live in a world with chet murking my spurs for the next 20 years

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, July 5, 2022 9:15 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

i did have this one, praise be to allah

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