HOOPS STATS in the new era

VJ edgecombe 34 pts on 13/16 shooting. third most points in an NBA debut all-time, the most since wilt chamberlain in 1959

wemby: 1 million dunks (nba record)

Rip old stats thread

Wemby 40-15 0 tos first time since wilt or one of those old bigs

luke kornet 3 fouls, one of them flagrant, in his first 4
minutes on the court with a new team. wondering if anyone's ever topped that.

SGA 55-8-5-2-1, 23 of those points at the line

Thunder 1st team ever to open the season with b2b 2OT games

I was wondering how often any teams has played b2b multiple OT games...Spurs somehow played two triple OT games in a row in Dec 2014, which was the only time that happened since the Baltimore Bullets of 1951

aaron gordon 7/7 from three in the first half, tying the all time record for most 3s in the first half without a miss

jokic 33-15-16-3

Tonight was Nikola Jokic’s 78th career game leading BOTH teams in points, rebounds and assists.

That’s the most such games by any player since the 1976 NBA-ABA merger, 10 more than the next closest player (LeBron James - 68).

crazy

Timberwolves Defensive ratings stats on/off for Gobert are crazy, either second best in the league or so far beyond the worst you need the hubble telescope to see it

With Gobert (247 min): 118.1 ORTG, 109.4 DRTG, 8.7 net rating
Without Gobert (107 mins): 120.1 ORTG, 144.2 DRTG, -24.2 net rating

144.2 is unfathomable. and that sample size isn’t that small

it's been interesting, watching Rudy Gobert 100x more than I ever would have in a lifetime. He's a singularly weird and great and terrible and frustrating player. And almost everything he really does well are the types of things that are not suited to be appreciated in the social media highlights era, and everything he's terrible at sticks out like a sore thumb.

like a combination of a defensive savant and a guy that seems like he's seeing a basketball for the first time in his life.

sometimes the way he drops an easy pass as if he has two canoe paddles for hands it's like...i don't even know

i think ive said this before but best seats i ever had at a game was like 8th row and suns were playing jazz. seeing gobert at like eye level was so shocking. on tv he looks like a normal skinny tall nba player but he would barely be bending over and his hands we're like at his shins, shoulders way more broad than it seems, then he'd put his arms out wide and i have no idea how anyone completes a pass or gets a shot off in his vicinity. ive seen shaq with pretty good seats, and it was even more alien than that somehow. but i do remember how clunky he was on offense, just no feel or touch. i still think the most unlikely shot in nba history is that game 7 shot clock running down fadeaway to help put the nuggets away a couple years back.

zach lowe, nate duncan et al have been noting that it looks like he’s slowing down in terms of being able to move his feet and contest shots at the rim

yeah I mean he's at the age where he's not going to get better

he also had that one bizarre outburst against the Lakers in the playoffs last year where he scored 27 points and looked incredible on offense for one day

that was wild

i think ive said this before but best seats i ever had at a game was like 8th row and suns were playing jazz. seeing gobert at like eye level was so shocking. on tv he looks like a normal skinny tall nba player but he would barely be bending over and his hands we're like at his shins, shoulders way more broad than it seems, then he'd put his arms out wide and i have no idea how anyone completes a pass or gets a shot off in his vicinity. ive seen shaq with pretty good seats, and it was even more alien than that somehow. but i do remember how clunky he was on offense, just no feel or touch. i still think the most unlikely shot in nba history is that game 7 shot clock running down fadeaway to help put the nuggets away a couple years back.

― Spottie, Friday, November 7, 2025 1:07 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

this last part was unnecessary and needed to come with a trigger warning

lol im sure like the lebron game 7 block for me, i just have to avert my ears/eyes when it gets shown or talked about

luckily rudy gobert highlights dont get much burn

Victor Nonga Wembanyama-de Fautereau-Vassel tonight:
38 pts (including 6-9 from 3, 10-10 from the line), 12 rebs, 5 asts, 5 blocks, 1 stl (as a treat)

also killed nik vucevic in public and no police arrived on the scene, very hard to do

grayson allen 42-2-4-3 in 28 minutes (10 3s)

jokic was 16/19 from the field tonight for 35 points, 15/17 from 2 point range. (at least one of those misses was a missed tip-in/OREB.)

he’s now shooting .786 from 2 point range for the season

Victor Nonga Wembanyama-de Fautereau-Vassel tonight:
38 pts (including 6-9 from 3, 10-10 from the line), 12 rebs, 5 asts, 5 blocks, 1 stl (as a treat)

also killed nik vucevic in public and no police arrived on the scene, very hard to do

I paid 500 to sit on the 4th row and witness this. Worth every penny. Sorry Vuc! RIP.

hell yeah

money well spent

Jokic so far in November:

- 32.0 PPG
- 12.0 RPG
- 12.0 APG
- 73/48/85 splits
- 81% true shooting
- +72 plus-minus
- 5-0 record

He’s the first player in NBA history to average a 30-point triple double on 80% TS over a 5+ game span

comical numbers per usual. also good timing for he and murray/gordon to be so hot while his bandmates (braun, cam) try to remember how to shoot again

dece

what is the deal with cam johnson, he has to be injured right? must admit i haven't watched much of him since he went to the nets but even the suns version was far superior to this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G5nYQmOW0AAbo8B?format=png&name=medium

speaking of curry 46-5-5-2 on back end of road b2b against a top 5 defense

8/9 from 2 with 16 FTAs vs a wemby defense is impressive

what is the deal with cam johnson, he has to be injured right? must admit i haven't watched much of him since he went to the nets but even the suns version was far superior to this

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, November 13, 2025 6:39 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

feel like he's getting acclimated to what they need him to do. in a shooting slump too, cant imagine it will hold much longer

cam left the game in the first quarter last night with some shoulder issue. not sure if that's been a thing that's been bothering him the whole time or not. he's missed a bunch of open looks and it doesn't really make sense

even tho he was a role player for the suns i feel like there has to be some adjustment involved when moving from "you're one of the top scorers on a horrible team and you can do whatever you want out there and literally nobody cares" to coming into a system like denver's w/ an established hierarchy and shots for role players coming in distinct ways, having actual responsibility, having to play serious basketball etc

he had decent role on those good suns teams

check the running hook shot at 1:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNcAOjK8gOQ

most skilled baller ever

also the b2b deep bankers at 3:10 why not

he was insane last night, i was hoppin mad

a 31-18-14 triple double w/ 7 steals for jalen johnson in utah tonight, sheesh

hawks doing kinda okay without trae, huh

incredible line

He’s looking like vintage bron out there with his ability to run a break and either plow right through you or drop a sweet dime. Praying for his health

Okongwu was 8 for 14 (!!!!!) from three in that game as well

wtf

a 31-18-14 triple double w/ 7 steals for jalen johnson in utah tonight, sheesh

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, November 13, 2025 11:42 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

these were all career highs, crazy

wonder if thats happened before for a non rookie starter to set career highs in 4 categories

yeah was wondering the same i bet no guy whos gotten starters minutes for 100 games like johnson has ever done it before

kawhi had 45-5-5 on 15/20 fg i believe and continues a pretty incredible season even tho it seemed like he came out of the gates slow to me

Joel Embiid has now officially missed as many regular season games as he has played in his career. #sixers

Games played: 485

Games missed: 485

rip big man

the atlanta hawks of player availability

lol

lmao

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Luka 60-7-3-5

that’s too many

bro is ballin during this 8-game win streak

44-9-5-3
35-8-4-2
31-11-11-2
51-10-9-3
30-11-13-1
36-6-4-2
40-9-10-1
60-7-3-5

VJ 38-7-11-2

(vs the kings, but still)

getting his summer league reps in early

i love end of season madness. max raynaud 62 points in his last two games

fantasy hoops is so specific bcuz the final 4-6 weeks of the fantasy season and the fantasy playoffs are basically a different league. it’s like a TV show that changes its cast every season, after the all star break you gotta get familiar with the new cast members. GG jackson is a recurring guest star

yup. randos start putting up top 10 player numbers

lol our dudes

Underdog @Underdog 8h

Rookies with back-to-back 30 point games over the last 5 years:

Victor Wembanyama
Paolo Banchero
Brandon Miller
GG Jackson II
Cooper Flagg
Jalen Green
MAXIME RAYNAUD

IHart
9-20-10-2
In 25 mins

jokic 23-21-19, 3 straight 14-14-14 games and 2 straight 15-15-15
jamal murray 53pts

Keerthika Uthayakumar‬ keerthikau.bsky.social‬

Raptors went on a 31-0 run tonight against the Magic, the largest unanswered scoring run by a team in the 30 seasons that we have play-by-play data.

The previous NBA record was the Mavs' 30-0 run vs Thunder in December 2023.

Tim Reynolds @ByTimReynolds

There have now been 81 games this season decided by 30 or more points.

A new NBA single-season record, topping the mark of 80 last season.

point inflation in the nba correlates with climate data, makes u think

cooper flagg averaging 48ppg in april (2 games)

too many points imo

more like cooper hogg (hogging all the points)

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lol

celtics tied the record for made threes in a game with 29 tonight they now share it with the celtics (and the bucks)

mike brown is a better coach than thibs

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seems like playing a more normal rotation should pay dividends in the offs but we'll see

the net rating changes between the two seasons are so small that i'm not really convinced they're examples of anything beyond stuff out of the coach's control i.e. the team having another season together, the league being really bad this year, randomness, inertia etc

they had a better net rating while playing their starters less

yeah and i think if you had just given the knicks no coach or like hired a knicks fans out of the stands you'd probably have gotten the same results

seems unlikely

idk! "play the starters a little bit less" was sort of like "a chimpanzee could come up with this solution" of NBA problem solving

sure but they played them less and got better

yeah, kinda

firstly +2.4 isnt nothing it represents over a third of their net rating and second they did it while cutting their starters minutes significantly

during a year when 1/3 of the league was openly not trying for like half the season, i just think there's lots of noise in those numbers that could be attributed to any number of things that have little or nothing to do w/ the knicks' coaching

it is true that any number of things happen every season

knicks were 4-14 this season against boston, detroit, cleveland, okc, san antonio, denver... maybe mike brown missed some of those games

beating the best teams is hard especially when youre not as good as them

and one would think that perhaps good coaching could help overcome such difficulties

would one

i would genuinely actually love to see someone run all the net rating stats this year but just erase any games involving

wizards, pacers, nets, jazz, kings, grizzlies and then post-asb any game involving the bucks, bulls, warriors

would be much more valuable than what we get right now looking at season long numbers this year w/ no context

think yall are forgetting that the knicks are the 2026 nba cup champs which is the only thing theyve won in 50 years therefore mike brown is a knicks hofer

funny thing is its very likely that the knicks will lose to the celtics in the second round this year when they beat them last year and everyone will take the opportunity to say that thibs was better because its against the law to acknowledge that the entire celtics roster was injured last year

on cleaningtheglass which filters out garbage time, which there’s a lot of when you play the bottom feeders, the knicks net rating went from 5.2 last year to 6.1 this year, so to jordan’s point a smaller adjusted increase than the raw totals, then again their improvement on defense is pretty legit and maybe has something to do with playing the starters less lol

tom haberstroh kinda reading my mind ... knicks not looking funky by this measure

NEW TOM THE FINDER POST: Which team dominated vs. non-tankers?

I ran the numbers.

One team stands above the rest. pic.twitter.com/PvEClbI42A

— Tom Haberstroh (@tomhaberstroh) April 13, 2026

instead he is concerned about...

here are some teams that look underwhelming by this measure.

Minnesota. Yes, they’ve reached the Conference Finals in the last two seasons, but I don’t blame you if you’re skeptical of their viability this time around. Anthony Edwards’ knee is acting up and the team hasn’t risen to the level of their opponents. They’ve actually registered a negative point differential vs. A-League opponents, a number that is drowned out by their 20-6 +13.2 MOV mark against B-League opponents. That’s quite the swing.

Philadelphia. I haven’t had them on my title tiers for weeks. Though I hadn’t run this analysis before I made that determination, I feel better now for leaving them off the list. A 21-34 (.382) record against A-League opponents obscured by the 24-3 record against the teams trying to league? Yikes.

Cleveland. Gulp. I talked about them on Russillo last week. I wish they played better down the stretch to validate this post.

Charlotte. Though they have a positive point differential against A-League opponents, the team is seven games below .500 against those foes. That incongruity makes me nervous about their play-in. Still, Buzz City is faring just as well or better than the East outside the top four.

oddly satisfying to see denver’s MOV vs the B league teams, it’s been such a weird year for them