John Wall Destinations

New Jersey (24.6%)

lol

Indiana (2.2%) -- i guess him & danny granger would be fun, but this would pretty much wipe him of the map
Philadelphia (5.1%) -- would be okay with this tbh
Detroit (7.6%) -- *shakes head slowly*
Washington (12.1%) -- this is v intriguing -- washington seems to be fucked over for a long time, and uh, not sure any youngster needs to go into this environment, but him & blatche could be a worse young lil core to build around + don't they have more picks?
New Jersey (24.6%) -- wouldn't hate this -- nets are kinda lil brother but adding wall would with lopez & cdr & another pick in the 11 draft would make them a potential playoff contender (bottom 3 seeds obv) in 12/13 a la the thunder
Utah (2.8%) -- obv wouldn't take wall
Clippers (2.5%) -- this would be awesome in many, many ways -- eric gordon would slay people with wall driving & dishing to him and wall and blake griffin on the fast break would be breathtaking -- obv this would turn out terribly in some form tho
Sacramento (7%) -- this would actually be really good for the kings? they could move tyreke over. man that would be a scary team
Golden State (13.6%) -- they have no use for him, would really benefit from replacing maggette with evan turner or getting a useful big man like cousins or cole aldrich
Minnesota (20.2%) -- would have to trade out of the #1 or pick someone else after last year's draft right?

even tho it would never happen, i'm voting for GS cuz if steph & wall were on the same team together i'd move out to the bay and cop season tickets

wall to wizards = i'd start watching the wizards

i just wanna type it again: wizards

i forgot that the wiz got al thornton

even tho it would never happen, i'm voting for GS cuz if steph & wall were on the same team together i'd move out to the bay and cop season tickets

― Violent (J0rdan S.), Friday, March 26, 2010 5:13 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^this

perhaps this fine young student-athlete will choose to pursue his degree

afdasadfs

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njn already have devin harris. voted for philly cause I want some pressure taken off of iggy

voted wolves, they need a pg

nets need to shove devin harris out the airlock if they can get wall imo

agreed

eh devin harris is v. good

voted wolves, they need a pg

― ~cankles~ (ice cr?m), Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:06 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

I lol'd

okay you guys are seriously trippin if you think john wall is an upgrade on devin harris

dude nets are sitting on ten wins and i think harris' ceiling is pretty much established. gotta go with upside imo.

right and all that is because of devin harris?? don't get it

yeah, harris is nice but wall has a chance to enter the chris paul/derron williams echelon -- that same thinking led to the "we don't need carmelo or wade, we have tayshaun & rip hamilton!"

not that evan turner is darko, but still

I dunno I don't think getting a new PG is what you need to get the nets out of this slump. they need a CULTURE CHANGE bring in KEVIN GARNETT

dyao i'm just saying the nets are not a piece or two away--get an extremely talented young player in there and control his best years.

i mean alternatively you're suggesting that they could/should "build around devin harris" which is wacky

and sadly PGs aren't what you build your team around these days ;_;

here's another example: i'm pretty sure that the warriors are happy to have stephen curry, even if they also have monta and will eventually have to get rid of him -- that's a good problem, as opposed to having monta & jordan hill or w/e

well on papers the nets are really good - brook lopez, devin harris, courtney lee, yi jianlian. they just need a good coach who will put their heads on straight

chad ford called john wall 'the best athlete ive ever seen' and my mind stopped for a sec i admit

i think it would be sick if the nets got demarcus cousins -- that would be some bynum/gasol type shit potentially

and I love GSW to death but really?? they are 21-52 for the season, anyone can see that steph curry bless his soul is/was a poor fit for the team

btw Utah (2.8%) is #2 in the west, this is some mistake

utah has a first round pick from isiah's knicks iirc

ahh damn, claasique gm

worst case scenario would be wall to wizards, that team is full of chuckleheads who would undoubtedly be a good influence to a developing rookie

re: curry what i'm saying is this -- look at the people drafted AFTER curry

Jordan Hill
DeMar DeRozan
Brandon Jennings
Terrence Williams
Gerald Henderson
Tyler Hansbrough
Earl Clark
Austin Daye
James Johnson

if the warriors had gone "we already have a PG, let's take terrence williams to shore up our future at SF!" that would've been totally retarded and the franchise would be way worse off than if they hadn't picked the best player, even if it's not a perfect fit right now. i think drafting for position & not value is almost always a terrible idea

yeah, drafting for value really worked out well for the wolves ^.^

okay well i'm not about to defend THAT

i mean, that was stupid because what they're saying is "our future is two point guards" whereas drafting john wall even if you have devin harris is saying "our future is john wall, and we'll figure out a way to move devin harris, as good as he is"

lol srsly lets not act like what the wolves did was in any way normal or illuminated a plan of any kind

lol. I think the Nets are in a prime situation for a 'from worst to first' kind of scenario a la the 91 twins or something - they have all the pieces, but they're just not clicking right for whatever reason. I would take evan turner and bring in a new coach and possibly some russian babes & machine guns

ftr i wouldn't be against them picking evan turner, if they think he's a better player than john wall -- i would have a huge problem with them passing on the best player because of someone currently on their 9 win team

well tbh what boggles my mind is devin harris still has upside - he's only in his 5th year in the league, and already averaging 18 and 7. and you're acting like john wall is the second coming of jordan based on one season at kentucky surrounded by coach cal and all-americans

ive heard what many teams do these days is arrange their draft boards by tiers, grouping players they believe to be of roughly equal potential

tier 1
john wall

tier 2
evan turner
derrick favors
demarcus cousins

tier 3
john doe
jimi hendrix
jenna haze

then when its their turn to select theyll take a player from the highest tier remaining, if theres more than one player left in a tier theyll choose based on need - pretty sensical system imo

xp by the same token harris is getting numbers on a shitty team--his shooting % this year blow tbqfh

ehh harris averaged 21 and 7 last year when the nets still had vince - and steph curry isn't putting up #s on a shitty team??

harris had a bunch of injuries this year, hes dece overall but no nba superstar

devin harris and stephen curry are not comparable

i'm not talking about steph curry! not sure i by your nets turnaround scenario either--maybe a coach can get them to play some defense but i'm not putting money on it.

*buy. i hate that typo

yeah that's quite true - steph curry's numbers are probably inflated from playing in nelson's guard centric system

the nets as they stand atm could maybe be a mid-tier east team by 2011 or 2012 but that's about it

steph currys numbers for march: 20pts 7ast 46%fg 51%3pt 95%ft holy shits

he's fucking incredible

the fact that he's getting better late in his rookie season is genuinely weird

those percentages are like O_O

btw he also is 4th amongst all PGs in RPG

shooting guard does well in don nelson's system, what a surprise

he has a chance to be better than iverson

no system can make 50% from 3, das skill

also u could watch steph play basketball and youd probably say "damn that guy is a talented basketball player"

tbh when i saw him in college i thought he was a good but limited player--hes way more skilled and multidimensional than i realized

he was like quadruple teamed all the time, not a great team davidson

yes me too -- had no idea he was gonna be such a good passer/rebounder

btw the lakers were legit triple teaming him the last time they played

95%ft 95%ft 95%ft

those are upgraded reggie numbers ime

I haven't seen Minnesota this season at all - is Flynn working out at all? Like, obviously not at a Curry/Evans level but is he rated higher than Collison or Lawson still? I kind of don't get how that team is so bad tbh.

okay you guys are seriously trippin if you think john wall is an upgrade on devin harris

I guarantee that you will not find even one personnel in the NBA who agrees with this.

gravel you ever seen 'em "defend?"

Also, what the hell ice cr?m, haze is clearly tier 2 at the lowest.

The only numbers that are inflated for Steph are his rebound numbers and points. His percentages would be his percentages no matter what.

... or maybe they'd be higher since he doesn't drive much and mostly stays on the perimeter and lets Maggette and Ellis penetrate.

One negative for Curry: one of the two or three worst PGs in the league in terms of A/TO.

according to j hollinger and other stat nerdz high turnover numbers in a rookie season when the other stas are good are actually predictive of greater success than having low turnovers - can kinda see it from an ambition/potential angle

Also, what the hell ice cr?m, haze is clearly tier 2 at the lowest.

― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:43 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

peaked @ 19 imo

o jesus i am a MONSTER

I don't think we can truly analyze haze until better stats are developed.

according to j hollinger and other stat nerdz high turnover numbers in a rookie season when the other stas are good are actually predictive of greater success than having low turnovers - can kinda see it from an ambition/potential angle

This makes sense. Steph certainly doesn't SEEM like he would turn the ball over a ton, especially in a normal system.

forcing bad passes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>forcing bad shots

having watched the celtics extensively during the doc rivers era im not sure i can agree w/that

CAD - did you mean Minnesota not playing D, or Curry/Evans?

minny

only speaking as it being an indicator of a potentially productive rookie pg, iceman

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Imma change my vote to indiana

only speaking as it being an indicator of a potentially productive rookie pg, iceman

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, March 31, 2010 6:52 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fair

... or maybe they'd be higher since he doesn't drive much and mostly stays on the perimeter and lets Maggette and Ellis penetrate.

― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, April 1, 2010 3:44 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

thought you were talking about how to play against haze

If he went to Utah, would Wall survive Jerry Sloan?

Sloan would eat his children

lol maybe sloan would fucking retire already god

every time i see utah this year he is sitting on the bench with his mouth open, staring. i keep looking for any tubes going into his body.

he's going to die on the court -- i feel like if he caught cancer like george karl, he would forgo chemo if it was gonna interfere with his coaching

what happen 2 this guy

He is still waiting to get called up from the NBDL team he's on I think.

free him imo

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6520853

better

man this was so overdue. them and the sixers look so much better now.