is kobels cooked

top 3 is clearly pushing it, so is top 5

is he top 10?? idk

lebron
wade
dirk
cp3
melo
dwight
durant
rose

okay these eight are definitively better thank kobe imo, but after that it gets interesting

man just one season ago people were still calling him the top player in the league

xp wow, durant/rose over kobe? melo?

are any of these two definitively better thank kobles:

amare, love, pau, z-bo, aldridge, deron, joe j, bosh, pierce, blake, monta, russ, nash, horford...

honestly looking at that list i'm willing to give kobe one more year before i call him COOKED aka out of the top 10

wow, i wrote "thank" instead of "than" TWICE

yeah for voting purposes you can treat the 'top 3' option as your 'not cooked' option, whatever your def may be. to me, thinking of kobe as being anywhere outside of the top 3 qualifies as 'cooked' since that's what we a all expect of him

are you asking who of those guys you'd rather have on your team next year?

i think you could stick z-bo & amare in there and call kobe out of the top 10, but i'm not willing to bang the gavel just yet

thank you based god

yes, next year only

like not including contracts/potential/age xp

i think you're about right. z-bo/aldridge is a push for me, lord knows how good blake griffin could be next year, amare yeah i'd have him above kobe at this point i'm pretty sure.

well, age certainly, as it pertains to next season

but you're not "building a franchise" or w/e

this is kind of hard tho because of my visceral hate for the bean

he had a couple of just absolutely vicious dunks in the no series

like i said, i'm still very willing to give kobe the benefit of the doubt

just think it's lol that he will be paid 30 million in 2013-2014 when he will have no cartilage in his knee, guess it's a reward for past accomplishments

kobe has at least 2-2.5 years of elite play left tho imo barring catastrophic injury

yeah that contract is O________________________O

and i think he'll have the sense to retire before the inevitable ugly decline too

YEAH RIGHT

he's seen the mistakes made by his predecessor

if the lakers win it all next year then maybe yeah, otherwise i think he hangs on as long as possible to get one more ring

plus, it's kobe!! when has he ever been unselfish

yeah this will never happen for kobels i don't think

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/legacy_images/bulletsforever/images/admin/Jordan_Wizards.jpg

will be very lol if kobe is forced to retire with 5 rings

based on the options i was given i voted cooked

i think he's as selfish as he is legacy driven tho, jordan. maybe if he's pushing the all-time points scored record he'd hang around a few years for that? but i don't see him hanging on to sully his image as a player. (his image as a person is obv p gross already)

well, kobe is never gonna leave the lakers, but michael's situation was unique

i could see a 38 year old kobe playing 12 minutes a game for dwight's lakers

I think it's fascinating that he has no cartilage in his knee, could be entering the t-mac jump shooter phase of his career

he's got about 10,500 points to get to kareem, so i guess that isn't going to happen.

30 ppg @ 82 works out to 2460 points a season, yeah he'd need at least 5 more

he's got about 10,500 points to get to kareem, so i guess that isn't going to happen.

― Clay, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:34 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

"don't count me out"

- kobe bryant's ego

http://www.cuttingedge.org/lets-roll-s.jpg

There should be a "Kobe was never top 3" option.

C'mon, he wasn't better than Shaq or Duncan or Garnett. And now he's not better than LeBron or Wade or Howard etc.

he was better than shaq in the last five years

There's a Brian Philips post about Federer where he talks about Kobe being at the "still" phase of his athletic career, like he can still get to the rim but it needs constant restating rather than being a central and obvious fact - pretty otm I think.

lebron
wade
dirk
cp3
melo
dwight
durant
rose

okay these eight are definitively better thank kobe imo, but after that it gets interesting

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:13 PM (Yesterday)

if this is in order then dwight is too low, prob is #3 then dirk then cp3 then durant - these are basically all the players i could understand hearing the case for being better than kobe right now tho - melo is pushing it - but yeah kobles is in the 8-12 range right now

i was actually gonna start a "rank the top 10 players in the nba" thread or something - top 3 and like top 7 is pretty easy for me but then it's between like 20 ppl for the last couple spots

is the bean cooked pt ii

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cooked

I dunno, THE BEAN looked pretty STEAMED not getting that last shot
ho ho ho
*puts loaded pistol in my mouth*

the great thing about the decline of kobe is that he'll continue taking 25 shots a game and have a high scoring average, so most people will still think he's awesome

prescient poll

"don't count me out"

- kobe bryant's ego

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:35 PM

lol

otm, whole thread otm

i've been thinking about this recently - over the course of a long season, on a per-minute basis, he's not a top 10 player anymore. but at his peak, he's still a top 7ish player - he's capable of taking over a game, or stringing together 30 point games, like few other players. but he balances those out with his 7-23 nights. it's never as evident as in the playoffs, where he'll will himself into high-volume outputs, whether it helps or hurts the team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY8SHCn_s3Q

i don't think those are his hands. you never see the camera do a single take from his hands to kobe.

https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/293719398273912833/photo/1

Despite its fame, the Moonlight Sonata is often considered a piece for intermediate piano students. It is actually pretty simple in its technical demands. Playing it well mostly consists of playing it with nuance and style.

Rachmaninoff or gtfo Kob3ls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-KgF_2Dqwo

Can't ever remember seeing the playground reach ever working in the NBA

and i think he'll have the sense to retire before the inevitable ugly decline too

― Clay, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:24 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

YEAH RIGHT

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:25 PM (3 years ago)

ha

lol

so much wiser lo these many years later

CHICAGO -- Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant will not play against the Chicago Bulls in a nationally-televised matchup here Thursday night.

The 36-year-old Bryant will sit out to rest for the second straight game, Lakers coach Byron Scott announced before the game.

When asked if there was any particular injury hampering Bryant he said, "Old age."

I just hope at some point he says "the bean is cooked"

bean tearing us apart http://deadspin.com/twitter-user-makes-35-minute-drive-to-fight-kobe-hater-1675230267

Hahaha was following that yesterday

this would make a great start to one of those chappelle show "when keeping it real goes wrong" sketches

do we have any clarity on whether the fight actually went down?

from the tweets it seemed like one party was actually out of state and thus the fight did not proceed

wonder if the kobels defender dude is waiting outside the city limits for his enemy to return from holiday vacation, doing exercises in his back seat, getting ready to fight

nah jk that's only the case if MyTweetsRealAF is actually a kobe sock

OMG HE MADE A DISS TRACK http://deadspin.com/mr-mytweetsrealaf-has-recorded-an-anti-snottiedrippe-1675901065

Slow yr roll slothro p

yea what was i thinking posting an amusing link on a message board ty for the heat check dayo

dayo i freed you in the main thread because actual current hall of famer danny green had a good game and the spurs won a close game against an nba team and that means im not mad at you for being a doodoohead at me

lol

finally there is peace in this land, praise

If you pull this bullshit again I'm gonna cut you

assertive 龜

Strange But True: Kobe Bryant STILL leads the Lakers in FG attempts this season (713) despite playing only 35 games.

ha wow

the bean is cooked

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVCW7PSUEAArrch.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BD6i9Ahn_vy/ pre-cooked

and i think he'll have the sense to retire before the inevitable ugly decline too

― Clay, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:24 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

YEAH RIGHT

― frogbracist (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:25 PM (3 years ago)

never forget

Haha

lol

shared a nice laugh w a dude @ the gym today when the sportscenter kobels career recap piece got to the shaq 'kobe tell me how my ass taste' part

Ha that was a good shaq moment tbh

https://streamable.com/ri1u

well done

http://www.espn.co.uk/nba/story/_/id/15186931/last-true-days-kobe-bryant

kind crazy

crazy kobe has been around since forever. he positively scared all his teammates (except shaq).