is the bean cooked pt ii

anyone who thinks he is a top 5 player is just an absolute lost cause stan at this point - he's in the 8-12 range

voted top 10

yeah we did this in the other thread but he's right on the edge of top 10. voted top 10 a little warily (i'm not sure he'll necessarily be there at the end of whenever the next season is) but would say top 15 with confidence.

the bean is a top 20 player

^wait hold up explain this

u crazy if u think otherwise

dude's per minute avg's in pts, rebs, asts all went UP last year. granted, if a guy can sustain play for less than 35 mpg when he used to be able to give you 38ish, that's a dip in a production catergory.

yeah i said he was top 10! i'm not sure there are 19 players better than him is what i'm saying

Kobe is the type who will utterly destroy his body before he quits, because he is completely mental. After he retires, he will cart his worn-out husk of a body from place to place, glaring at people, muttering, "I'm fucking KOBE BRYANT, that's who I am", and frequently hitting anyone with reach of his crutches.

sorry K, but I'll be damned if Imma scroll up 3 posts for context!!

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ec61f8a82f/kobe-bryant-on-the-nba-lockout?playlist=featured_videos

"Anybody gotta hot new surgery out there, let me know"

:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QStx8GklKQg

I dunno 'bout CRAZY. It looked like a decent, but not extraordinary, fall away jump shot to me. However, the crowd seems a bit CRAZY.

kobe helps out some bros in the laker video dept

Kobe Bryant insisted on giving some of the team’s playoff bonus to two members of the Lakers’ video department whose contracts were not renewed after the season. Chris Bodaken and Patrick O’Keefe split about $65,000 of the Lakers’ playoff bonus.

Bodaken started with the Lakers as a ball boy in 1986 and spent the last 10 seasons as their director of video services. O’Keefe was the Lakers’ video coordinator for six seasons. They both hope to be re-hired by the team when the NBA lockout ends. For now, they are thankful for Bryant’s financial gesture.

“He always looks out for people who are lower on the totem pole,” O’Keefe said.

Said Bodaken: “At the end of the day, he told us he was going to take care of us and he did, and that’s not how most people in the world operate. He not only talks the talk. He walks it.”

legit props for that

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the bean is still a top 10 player

yeah i said he was top 10! i'm not sure there are 19 players better than him is what i'm saying

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i'm not saying he's the 20th best player in the nba -- i would put him closer to like... 12th. but the options are top 10 or top 20, so that's what im voting

i think we went over this in the other thread but

players that are better than kobe right now

bron
wade
dirk
dwight
cp3
durant
melo
rose
amare

... at this point it gets super close! kobe could be #9 or #10 imo, or he could be #11 or #12, i guess i'm willing to bet on a player or two (love? z-bo? blake? aldridge?) making a leap up over kobe at his age than kobe maintaining that exact level

the thing is for a player like kobe once he's out of the top 10 it doesn't even matter if he's 11th or 12th, either he's one of the most relevant players in the NBA or... he's not.

yeah you're right xp

don't know if i'd rather have melo or amare rather than kobe on my team. already super close at that point imo. pure skill/athleticism yes they have eclipsed the bean but they both are so deficient in the mental aspects of winning nba games/nba playoff series that i don't know if it makes up for that.

yeah like against the mavs last year

the thing about kobe is that he's generally adjusted well to his age, letting guys like gasol & bynum & odom get theirs... except sometimes when he still feels the need to be like KOBE BRYANT, ONE OF THE BEST EVER which can be damaging. thinking of game 7 of the last boston finals, the game in miami last year where he was just jacking up threes and you knew nothing was gonna go in

again, if someone told me that kobe was going to be a top 5 player in the nba next season i wouldn't be shocked or anything. but at this point i'd place my bet on someone like carmelo or amare

well yeah those dudes are in their primes and kobels is on the decline. like you said, he's aged pretty well - the two factors that best correlate w/ basketball longevity are height and shooting ability, and kobe's big for a guard and has improved his j - and is still an elite or almost-elite player.

the two factors that best correlate w/ basketball longevity are height and shooting ability

This must made me a little sad, again, for the years of Yao we won't get to see.

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yeah like against the mavs last year

a++ argument

i voted top 10. of the guys on j0rdan's list i'd put him ahead of amare and carmelo and about equal to a few of the others. if there's a season it'll be interesting to see how he looks by the end of it.

looking at the per rankings for last season, kobe was 5th, but players 6-11 were all really close. and kevin love was #4, which seem way high at this point.