Miami Dolphins Thread of Despair

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yes i think so. i mean, the guy was never next level at michigan but this current staff really likes him & i think they are to be trusted (altho to be fair their track record on player personnel - pennington aside, altho that was luck probably - is kind of up in the air still). he's been off the field enough to step right in and give the phins a chance to win every week i think. plus he's got all the physical stuff right.

baby girl lemme snrub up on you (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I only saw him a couple of times in college but henne just seemed, I dunno, slow. slow release slow feet etc.

brownie, Friday, 2 October 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree w/ the slow thing, but I still weirdly liked him in college. I'm w/ j0rdan - I'd wait to make any judgment and let him play a few games...

iatee, Friday, 2 October 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The feeling here, when Henne was drafted, is that he was a complete steal. I don't know where he was projected to be drafted, but maybe he fell to us at that draft pick?

Anyway, the jury's out. But I think, at this stage, it's fair to suggest a "Marino Curse" on the Dolphins quarterback position this decade. The lesson: Fans should not be mean to Dan Marino.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 October 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

again and again, history suggests that basically nobody can predict which of these guys is gonna be the steal and which one is gonna be the bust.

too much monday morning quarterbackdrafting - nobodyyyy knows, just let em play and see what hpapens.

iatee, Friday, 2 October 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

srsly most teams don't get one Dan Marino, let alone wait around for the second coming. afaic it might as well be the Fiedler Curse.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i.e. the curse is having had a Dan Marino and thinking you can dial up another one.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah otm - fiedler was a pretty decent qb tbh. a few teams in the nfl would killl for a competent qb like him who could, uh, "guide" his team to the playoffs a few times.

autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

also a jew

autogoon delight (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 October 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, okay. Fiedler was a decent-to-good quarterback. And a Jew. He made my people proud.

But we've spent a loooooooong time wandering in the desert since then.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 2 October 2009 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Fiedler is one of those guys like Garcia and Warner who didn't even really get a chance to play until he was close to 30.

You have to think this might be the end for Pennington. The guy has had a bad shoulder for a long time. He hung around alot longer in the NFL than some thought.

Dan Marino was so good he completely changed how Shula coached. That dude was a total run the ball down their throat and play solid D guy and they turned into like a super high scoring passing attack. Marino lost quite a few games where he would throw for 5 TDs. It was crazy. The Dolphins had near absolute zero running game the whole time he was QB.

earlnash, Friday, 2 October 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm kinda of a MAC stan and was always rooting for Pennington- its' too bad he was always getting banged up

Yeah the Marino era Dolphis were something else but it was bizarre how Shula could never get a consistent ground game going. In the 70's with Griese the 'phins would throw the ball like 12 times a game.

brownie, Friday, 2 October 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

just checked the box score for the 72 super bowl and griese was 8 for 11. and Earl Morral started 9 games that year at QB for the Dolphins which I can never get my head around

brownie, Friday, 2 October 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

wait hang on

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

http://dork457.ggot.org/DanMarino.gif

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

it was bizarre how Shula could never get a consistent ground game going

maybe b/c when you a once-in-a-lifetime QB/squeaky wheel like marino falls in your lap you end up developing an O-line that can maintain a perfect horseshoe pocket for weeks but can't run-block for shit?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 2 October 2009 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

oh no doubt, but it was strange to see a run first type of coach go completely aerial in his philosophy as he got older. He was going with his main strength obv.

brownie, Friday, 2 October 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Like Levy running the single wing with the Chiefs and then going to a no huddle with the Bills. I dunno, Noll and Landry really never changed all that much.

brownie, Friday, 2 October 2009 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Tom Landry was pretty much a genius on both sides of the ball. The guy developed the modern 4-3 defense with the Giants and his offense with the Cowboys pretty much put together the modern style offense especially in the passing game by using the shotgun, shifting the setup and putting people in motion.

Marino was a witch. If Miami got the ball back with any time down a score, you pretty much knew your team was screwed, especially if you were a Jets fan. That ropeadope he pulled against the Jets faking the timeout was really cool. I saw him bring the Dolphins back 2 TDs in like 5 minutes against the Colts in person.

earlnash, Saturday, 3 October 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHq1P7gccY

brownie, Saturday, 3 October 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, I agree about Landry, but earl can you see Landry going to an entirely pass offense or getting rid of his flex defense? Shula coached Super Bowl teams in the 60's the 70's and changed dramatically when Dan M. started.

Maybe it was the talent available to him at the time.

brownie, Saturday, 3 October 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Shula is greatest football coach of all time imo btw

brownie, Saturday, 3 October 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

"the" greatest

god

brownie, Saturday, 3 October 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm into my 2nd bottle of wine so, um, I'm hedging my bets etc.

brownie, Saturday, 3 October 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm into my 2nd bottle of wine so, um, I'm hedging my bets etc.

in vino at least arguable veritas and shit

iro with the brown bag (Hunt3r), Saturday, 3 October 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Cobbs out for the remainder of the season ;_;

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 02:08 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I didn't realize Chad Henne compared favorably to other good young NFL quarterbacks at this stage of his career. Not amazing numbers, by any stretch, but pretty good.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 26 November 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

brandon marshall predicts his best year yet!

hm. miami will be lucky to be 8 -- 8. i think it's more likely we'll be 6 -- 10, and we could start off 1 -- 8.(n.1)

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(n.1) first 9 games: buffalo (probably a win), then vikings, jets, patriots, packers, steelers, bengals, ravens, titans (all of which could be losses).

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 26 June 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't mope. Assuming Ricky and Ronnie didn't get run into an early grave last season, and that Chad Henne keeps improving, there'll be plenty of opportunity for Marshall to catch bombs in the endzone. That's a tough schedule to open the year, but my position as a rubbernecking Dolphins observer has come very close at this point to being an honest fan....so I'm, uh, optimistic?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, i'm not moping! i'm still recovering psychologically from the 1 -- 15 season. to me, 8 -- 8 is fantastic.

but i'm not excited about henne as a quarterback. something so . . . bland about him, and this team, to me.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 26 June 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/26/new-dolphins-logo-is-leaked/

THE DOLPHIN ISN'T WEARING A HELMET ANYMORE! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 05:54 (eleven years ago) link

If anything, they should've made it perfect like this:

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/dolpgif16.gif

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

this is absolutely terrible

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

yeah horrible news

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

okay destroy this team now

the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ku-medium.jpg

FAIL

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago) link

wtf it looks like a passenger plane now fffffuuuuuuuuuu

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT

GIVE THE DOLPHIN A HELMET

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

YES ^^THIS!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

there is so much in football that is NOT awesome

a dolphin in a helmet is awesome. ;_;

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Pretty much the fall of the Dolphins comes at the same time the Patriots rose to prominence.

You kind of remember them not being that great with Jimmy Johnson and Dave Wannstedt, but really they were average or a playoff team most of the years through them (at least until Wannstedt's last year).

earlnash, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

my memory of the Dolphins in the 90s is mostly Brian Cox spitting at the crowd

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

and now he's a successful assistant coach lol

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

RIP dolphin wearing another team's helmet.

brownie, Thursday, 28 March 2013 12:22 (eleven years ago) link

cannot believe Miami's insensitivity to dolphin head injury risk

Brad C., Thursday, 28 March 2013 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

rip best recursive logo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

ugh new logo ugh

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Jeff Darlington ‏@JeffDarlington -- —> RT @MiamiDolphins: NEWS: The Miami Dolphins and General Manager Jeff Ireland have mutually agreed to part ways

breaking news.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link


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