10-11 ncaa football thread

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Erik Kuselias and I quote, "Speaking of Notre Dame, you know if you find that group of guys there's always that one bachelor, donuts for dinner, dates a different model, goes on golf vacations, doesn't have to ask anybody, in college football that's Notre Dame"

johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think miami will have a losing season, but our non-conference schedule is tough.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

it's gonna be a really fun season

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

btw everyone was saying that last year

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ohio state is overrated & pittsburgh is coached by dave wannstedt -- ohio st played 1 good game last year (oregon) and the list of teams being overrated/underrated due to bowl performance is a very, very long list -- we didn't play well on the road last year but we can undoubtedly beat ohio state -- we aren't historically good against running quarterbacks but our defense is going to be really, really good (our defense line is srsly sick) -- we'll see about the offense but i'm less concerned about that than a lot of people are -- we might be one year behind the teams of the early decade but i genuinely believe that this team is almost as talented as those old teams

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

boise @ va tech is gonna be a hot game

johnny crunch, Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

that game is highly dope

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

really wonder what it's gonna mean for boise if they lose tho

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

we can undoubtedly beat ohio state

hope you're right; think you're wrong

we might be one year behind the teams of the early decade but i genuinely believe that this team is almost as talented as those old teams

lol. you must have had too many champagne mimosas for your birthday, and it's clouded your thinking.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm for real

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

there isn't anyone as good as, say, andre johnson, but the talent on this team runs sooo deep

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd like to point out that i'm always right about collge football and ohio state really is mad overhyped

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

that's the same team that put up 318 total yards against michigan -- i don't believe u, u need more people

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

the game that most concerns me is any game after we win, bcuz last year's team was not at all good at handling success -- if we actually beat osu i might not even watch the pitt game -- same for clemson if we beat pitt

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd like to point out that i'm always right about collge football

did you correctly predict the hurricanes over the cornhuskers in the 1983 championship game?

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

from beyond the womb

contl;drizer (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 May 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

yes but did you get the "over/under," as well?

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 15 May 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

dude's got a rhodes in his future

it looks like cal hasn't offered him, so I hope he goes w/ stanford or michigan for non-football reasons

iatee, Tuesday, 18 May 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

how many times can i rep usc this season before i get sb'd?

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link

should prolly wait til kiffin works his magic before you start worrying about that

iatee, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 01:01 (fourteen years ago) link

and by works his magic I mean loses 5 games and then gets hired as the head coach for the 49ers w/ a record salary

iatee, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 01:02 (fourteen years ago) link

if that happened, much as i love USC, i would think it was hilarious. (the 49ers part, not the 5 losses part.)

a bold plan drawn up by assholes to screw morons (ytth), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link

is ncaa ever gonna get around to busting usc for the reggie bush stuff or is that never going to happen?

mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently there's gonna be news about that soon (tomorrow?)

iatee, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"Rodriguez and his staff are not rogues, renegades or cheaters," his response said. "Yes, there were violations. But they were not done deliberately or knowingly. Rather, they were inadvertent and in many cases isolated."

We screwed up a lot but we spread it out -- once a day, sometimes twice a day, but never twice in the same hour.

Third person alert:

His overall statement of defense:

“Coach Rodriguez is surprised and disappointed that violations occurred in his program. He has strived throughout his career to follow the rules. Rodriguez recognizes that as a head coach, he has a heightened responsibility to monitor his program and promote an atmosphere of compliance. Rodriguez embraces that responsibility. He regrets that he did not adequately monitor certain aspects of his program in this case. Rodriguez has learned from his mistakes and will be a better coach and compliance leader going forward.

“However, ensuring compliance with complex NCAA bylaws is not a one-man job. It requires a diligent commitment from everyone with responsibility for compliance oversight. It also requires clear and open lines of communication. In this case, there was not adequate compliance oversight nor open communication concerning important compliance matters.

“Every activity that resulted in a violation in this case was done openly, transparently and under the watch of not only Rodriguez, but also other Michigan coaches and administrators. Violations went undetected because several Michigan staff members, including Rodriguez, were not paying close enough attention. In short, there was a collective failure that resulted in the violations in this case. That is not to deflect blame away from Rodriguez, it is simply stating a fact and putting Rodriguez’s culpability in the proper context.”

Andy K, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Thank fucking Jeebus Rodriguez didn't come to Alabama. *phew*

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i know that charlie weis is no longer the coach, but i think notre dame should have to win 10 games before we have to sit through this off season routine where everyone goes "hey! their schedule isn't that great! can't they win 10 games and have an outside shot at the national title?! what sleepers!"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I miss charlie weis

iatee, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

so, uh...pac16? big16? feels like one of those pointless corporate mergers, though I guess this stuff actually makes more sense than that financially. I'd rather cal doesn't play 5 texas teams a year.

iatee, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm kind of looking forward to the day when there are four giant regional conferences of 16 teams each. Will definitely make playoffs easier (but sorry, little schools).

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 20:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm gonna post about this soon

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

not like it's gonna be a mind bending post or w/e but i'm feeling lazy atm but i do have an opinion 4 u

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

2 conferences
4 divisions each
32 teams

all overseen by lou holtz

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link

BFeldmanESPN USC has been hit with a two-year post-season ban in addition to the loss of scholarships, among other penalties from the NCAA.

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

that is horrible news. i guess we won't have to worry about usc being good again this decade... let the transfers begin.

dad, i wanna be a lothario speedwagon (ytth), Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, really wonder what the max exodus is gonna be like

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, usc was obv. guilty so now i can get all uppity and compare what they did vs. what alabama did to get the same sanctions, or i can just be mad at college football for being dumb and punishing people who were in 7th grade at the time of the violations because that's all they can do. as a fan, it sucks... a one-year postseason ban would have been one thing, but i really do think this will cripple the program to near washington-state levels.

dad, i wanna be a lothario speedwagon (ytth), Thursday, 10 June 2010 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link

this won't cripple the program more than kiffin will

iatee, Thursday, 10 June 2010 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

^ quality post.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 June 2010 12:21 (fourteen years ago) link

it's gonna be a long, long time til usc wins a bigpac32 championship

iatee, Thursday, 10 June 2010 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I was kinda expecting to feel more schadenfreude about the whole USC thing, but honestly I am more happy that Colorado is apparently definitely in the Pac-10, and Texas is likely to follow. I was kind of worried the Pac-16 was gonna get stuck with Baylor.

C-L, Thursday, 10 June 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

scholarship losses are going to fuck them more than anything

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

devil's advocate here: maybe what USC actually needs right now is someone who is better at recruiting their ass off than actually coaching? even tho winning actual games is obv tied up in recruiting, you probably need a guy right now that's an amazing salesman (& a guy who can develop players etc etc). maybe not, idk.

gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I mean these next 2 years esp when you gotta work w/ a tainted brand.

iatee, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess this explains why Kiffin got the job, fwiw.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Orgeron too. That guy is apparently a recruiting monster (I mean, why else would anyone have played at Ole Miss?).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 June 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

recruiting is so weird, I never get how these hs kids' minds work

iatee, Thursday, 10 June 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Not that it's anything more than conjecture at this point, but -if- the SEC were to expand, I'd love to bring in Florida State and Clemson (both of which I'm sure are just waiting for the invitation, especially now that Jimbo Fisher is at the helm in Tallahassee). The other thing is the Texas schools. I think A&M would rather go south, but the Longhorns might rather go west, but they both know they have to travel together. I'd welcome them both, but be sad if it meant a Texas/Alabama game every single season. RISKY!

Ideally, I'd love for Georgia Tech to stop it already with the sour grapes and come back to the SEC, but I'm pretty sure that will never ever happen in a zillion years.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

there is no room for the sec in the bigpac32

iatee, Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

it's only gonna be funny until they hire someone who is 20x the coach

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

They're just going to hire some passable guy who can keep them at the top of the Big Ten for 3 or 4 seasons until Urban Meyer can be coaxed out of retirement.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 May 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

he won't need to be coaxed & it'll happen in 2012

J0rdan S., Monday, 30 May 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yr right.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 May 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

lol Ohio State problem just keeps getting uglier. Terrelle Pryor is probably done in college.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, that story about Tressel fixing the raffles when he was an Asst. Coach is some lowdown despicable shit.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

always wondered about how college players got such sweet rides; when I was at ND I'd walk by the stadium daily & see the players drive up in Escalades & other sweet rides obv. beyond the means of what you'd expect students from their financial backgrounds to afford. Yet as far as I know ND's not been investigated for this kind of thing. So I mean it much be a pretty much open secret on every campus as to what kind of shenanigans are going on (though I know almost nothing about the shenanigans at my present school, in the Big 12, though I'm not a student either).

Euler, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure there's shenanigans going on at every big school, but some coaches are more hands on than others about attempting to keep their programs clean. Tressel clearly had everyone snowed.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

someone involved in these matters once told me that head coaches generally have their assistants do the dirty work & in exchange, promise to get those assistants better jobs, so that everyone is committed to the taint. Though this was someone at ND & that's not the only ND-associated institution that works that way...so maybe this isn't the way it is at other schools---Tressel seems to have been pretty involved in the corruption at OSU.

Euler, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

People rightly or wrongly hate Nick Saban and Urban Meyer, but I think those guys have set decent examples of how to run major programs relatively cleanly. And I'm no expert on Texas football, but I'd bet that after SMU the schools there are either superficially clean or far better at hiding their cheating.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I highly doubt either of those two guys is clean. Coaches who know they're hot & can get jobs wherever they want can leave the program in whatever condition they want; they're off the hook if someone has to take the fall (as in Pete Carroll's case)

Euler, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

When I was in high school I had a friend who was in juco, and as soon as he transferred to a real college they hooked him up with a fancy car. And it wasn't like he was somebody special. I don't know if he even saw the field much.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Winning coaches aren't invincible. Tressel will be lucky if he's not coaching a high school team next year (DIII is more likely). And I still think there are a lot more moving parts at USC than there are at a lot of other schools, and Pete Carroll might not actually be a villain (but he saw what was comin').

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

(I realize I follow the game with a willful naiveté.)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

saban recruits 33 players a year and forces kids off the team through bullshit grey shirts and "medical hardships" - he is a dirtbag to the core, get real

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

les is the only clean coach for any top program, and only because he's too dumb to deceive anyone (it all goes on behind his back)

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

there's also been stories about saban's extreme abusiveness, calling players cunts and niggers and shit like that - so much better than giving something nice to some kid from an impoverished background so he can take care of his freakin family while you work him like a slave

( . __ . ) . o O ( cum ) (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't say he was an angel. Just that he runs a clean program.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

so as a USC homer, i can't help but be curious if the ncaa sticks with the new trend toward harsher penalties that they just defended in USC's appeal, or if they back off a little bit.

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I know a guy who's dad used to be an assistant under Saban at Michigan State. He told me that his father said that Saban's by far the worst guy he's ever dealt with in 30 years in coaching.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Terrelle Pryor had 8 cars in 3 yrs, drove w/ suspended license since Feb.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

he's kinda putting cam newton to shame

b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, really.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 2 June 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

i even have trouble feeling bad for this dipshit

max tldr (k3vin k.), Thursday, 2 June 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link

well there's certainly nothing to feel bad about -- anyone who wants him to fail will enjoy his wake up call come the 2012 draft

b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 June 2011 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Who the hell would feel bad for this fool?

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Thursday, 2 June 2011 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AodEfP7hx3zopCSyXuKRH7Y5nYcB?slug=ys-cole_bcs_strips_usc_title_060611

carroll's legacy is pretty lol at this point

iatee, Monday, 6 June 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Not that it wasn't inevitable, but it's now official: Pryor is dunzo at OSU.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

goodbye and good luck. I don't really root for OSU (mainly a MSU guy and I want the Big Ten to do well against other conferences) but Pryor had some great potential and was fun to watch. I think the sun might be setting Big 10 football.

brownie, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

so it looks like the usc-ohio st on-field showdowns of the past decade are gonna take a backseat to the battle over who can get pummeled harder by the ncaa

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6637444

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

is there any way to see this other than that oregon is completely fucked?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=Amo7hASTbf4KGHzkxOfNn_k5nYcB?slug=ys-robinson_scout_details_deal_oregon_kelly_070111

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Saturday, 2 July 2011 05:37 (twelve years ago) link

i don't see how chip kelly survives

dirty deathdrone boys (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 2 July 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

that the assistant AD was involved doesn't bode well for them RE: failure to monitor/lack of institutional control/etc

and you are a part of everything and everything is like melting (ytth), Saturday, 2 July 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

yahoo sports has pretty much become the college football muckraker. bout time the sport had one, I suppose.

iatee, Saturday, 2 July 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

that gator looks stoned out of its mind

johnny crunch, Friday, 8 July 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

which is appropriate!

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 July 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link


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