here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

4th rounder is a fair price for Branch, probably a deal.

Moss would have had more value if he wasn't demanding a contract extension, and if he wasn't a risk of being problematic if traded to a franchise he wasn't happy with.

I've been pretty darn happy with every Pats move since the Seymour deal.

fascinating retrospective of P. Manning vs the Patriots:
http://hockeyfightproductions.blogspot.com/2010/11/welcome-back-you-big-headed-bastard.html

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STEELS: this will be a great game if it happens. NE not gonna put up 39pts again but i'd be pretty confident they'd manage to score more than pburgh
RAVES: seems to me like people are forgetting that these dudes aren't actually very good this year
JETES: no way these clowns win a playoff game at foxbo
CHEEVS: i think this would have to be the championship game to happen, so unlikely, but i would be v worried because of the alumnus factor cf. recent losses to denver/mcdaniels and browns/mangini teams neither of which were anything like as good as this KC team
IND/JAK: fending off the peyty comeback this year broke that hoodoo/jags are str8 dump/pats win vs either of these. but the south winner loses to the north wildcard anyhow.

pats points allowed: 306
jets points allowed: 297

is a spiralli not concerned about what the ravens did in foxboro last year?

i'm not a flacco backer at all but i think the ravens are pretty damn solid on offense

the pats offense is interesting tho cuz i feel like it really puts an emphasis on how well you can pass cover & de-emphasizes the ability to stop the run (why the pats o killed the steelers) & rush the passer

ravens CBs are pretty shaky right?

i really feel like the chiefs could make a run to the afc title game a la the jets last year -- idk if their defense is necessarily good enough but any team that can run the ball as well as they do has a chance to win two games in the playoffs

if i was a pats fan i'd still be the most concerned about the colts since the games have just been crazily close in the past two years

is a spiralli not concerned about what the ravens did in foxboro last year?

― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 27, 2010 12:24 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

afaic this game never happened

colts still def the scariest

actually the more i think about it the more i like the chiefs -- amazing running game, cassell has been judicious w/ the ball this year, dwayne bowe is a legit #1 wr

the question marks next to KC are #1 how they deal with the playoffs, which is basically a new experience for nearly all concerned, and #2 the fact that they had the easiest regular season schedule, including just one real playoff team (real=excluding the nfc west). if i have it right they would have to go thru the jets and the north winner to get to the champs game. would love it, can't see it.

maybe i am underestimating baltimore but they haven't really looked too convincing when i have seen them this year. they suffered from crappy offensive playcalling earlier in the season, with too much on flacco and rice hardly in games. it looks like they are doing better now but i don't think they are an O that inspires fear. if NE can keep the ball a little and not have their defense on the field for 40 minutes they will contain them. this is obv the key to the pats' season in general. the good news is that they have mostly been doing a great job of making teams fear being passed on and moving the ball on the ground with that pair of reject backs. and baltimore are sufficiently scared of being passed on.

overall, my thinking is, in any given game if the pats play well they will definitely beat any of these teams with 2 exceptions: pburgh is the only D that could make the NE O look bad even if they play well, and indy is the only team that can keep scoring points regardless of how well NE play. but i maintain that if they make it the colts lose their first game anyway.

pats w/ brady are 6-1 i believe vs pitt? he picks apart that d so i would think theyd have to really give him some new, unexpected looks/schemes

im not the biggest ravens or flacco backer either but flacco has impressed me in the last few wks and id give balt the best odds at winning in ne

not sure if anyone posted this yet so:

Which, sure, except that Favre is already gone, and has been for some time. There's plenty to mourn about his departure, because he used to be fun and because he'll be replaced by narcissists of a crueler and more corporate cast—think of Tom Brady's joyless tuff-model mug, or Tim Tebow's blissful, boring evangelical boilerplate. Favre did indeed hang on too long, but not in the sense of no longer being able to make the throws or take the hits anymore. His mistake was getting high on his own supply, and sticking around long enough to disappear into his own misty mythos. Celebrity hollowed him out, as it does, and what's left of his old roguish joy now feels false and overdetermined; his press conferences may well be honest, but they are also claustrophobic—weird, rambling tours of the ornate, echoing ego-Xanadu in which he lives. He can't go away any more than Lindsay Lohan can, because there is an industry that depends on him, from which he also draws a sizable paycheck. But the better Favre—the one who really was Like A Kid Out There, as opposed to the one who merely regressed to childishness by overindulgence and self-addiction—is a long time and a long way gone.

http://www.theawl.com/2010/12/the-kid-fades-from-the-picture

oops, wanted to put this in the weekly thread. but i guess it fits here bc of the brady diss. my bad!

lol, that guy has a pick em where he competes all year against a tossed coin and the coin is winning by a healthy margin

so, pats face winner of jets vs colts unless KC beats baltimore. so pats face winner of jets vs colts. shit man. i am gonna have to be p damn drunk to watch that game tbh.

he's a big lad

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Looks like a good choice.

Trading away their other 1st round pick, not so much...

argh this lip smacking thing that belichick does all the time in press conferences. it's so fuckin horrible. i can't bear it.

PATRITOS

tully bc RELEASED
logan manx TENDER SIGNED

i guess we have some defensive ends. on a related note, word is that jermaine cunningham does not look too hot going into year 2.

belichick doc on nfl network RIGHT NOW

that is one serious maryland accent he has. pure maryland. the kind of accent that makes it sound like you're constantly pissed off about everything

i was like "why is he worried the fans are going to throw stuff at him in the preseason??"

then you realize they're in philadelphia

hahaha this was so great. i respect their knack for capturing the absurdity that comes with following any human being around for a year:

- bill leaves an awkward voicemail for terry francona

- bill can't reset the clock in his car and greg gumbel commiserates

Bill's unrelenting boringness made the whole thing fascinating. Like the scene of Bill and Kraft sitting in his office on game day, idly muttering to each other. THAT'S what they had to boil an entire year down too? There must be hours and hours of him saying nothing.

yah he's a boring guy but that's cool, i don't mind boring guys most of the time.

Halloween at the roller rink, with Bill dressed as a pirate and Randy Moss dressed as Spongebob, was an image I will not soon forget.

BILLS (+8.5) over Patriots

Q: I can't fight it anymore. I love watching the Patriots. They are a bunch of nobodies playing as the ultimate team. What I mean by nobodies are players who no one else thought much of. That qualifies for Brady, Welker, Haynesworth, their RBs, their WR's other than Ocho, and pretty much everyone else. They play so well as a team in whatever set, and they don't care who gets the ball. Its fun, I give up.
— Cole in Des Moines

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

what the fuck, who is saying the bills are nine point favorites over the patriots

When was the last time the Pats lost to the Bills? 2003?

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what the fuck, who is saying the bills are nine point favorites over the patriots

― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Friday, September 23, 2011 6:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

+8.5 means the Bills are 8.5 point underdogs.

speaking of Moss, I thought he seemed super chill and cool in that scene with Bill where they discuss the Halloween party.

Ah okay. As you can see, i dont gamble

brady went and cut his hair!!! do you think it will make belichick change?

he's just a guy with a new haircut

did he get a mohawk

buffalo is delilah!

ha, isn't the Bills bar in Chicago called Delilah's?

let's not examine that allusion to closely because it doesn't make any sense

xp YES!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYNwfq84hJU

"ah fuck you mason just fuck you will ya?"

this fucken guy

New England Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman is due in Boston Municipal Court today where he will be arraigned on charges of indecent assault and battery on a woman, Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley’s office said.

Boston police spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll said officers were called to the Storyville nightclub on Exeter Street in the Back Bay around 1:30 a.m. today to investigate reports of an assault.

After police spoke with the female victim, Edelman was arrested on a single count of indecent assault and battery, Driscoll said. Edelman was taken into custody but later posted bail and released by police.

Driscoll said out of respect for the confidentiality of the information the victim supplied to police, she would not provide specific details of the allegation against Edelman.

In a report on the case, Boston police said Edelman was inside the nightclub on Halloween night when he allegedly reached underneath the woman’s costume and groped her below the waist.

A man who was with the woman told police that a man – later identified as Edelman – bumped into the woman on the dance floor. “He saw the victim’s face change into an expression of shock,’’ police said in the report.

The man then confronted Edelman on the dance floor and “threatened to beat him up’’ while the woman tried to calm him down, police said. The man and the woman were ejected, followed by Edelman, police said.

The man and the woman and Edelman were thrown out of the nightclub by bouncers to calm the situation, police were told by nightclub staff.

When police arrived, Edelman denied groping the woman, police said.

However, after the man and woman positively identified him, Edelman was charged with indecent assault and battery.

Two things: Wes Welker wouldn't ever do this and is there "decent" assault and battery in Suffolk Co?

#weswelkerwouldnt

I hope he gets ejected from the team immediately. I really don't think I can handle cheering for a team that will look the other way when this kind of thing happens. I'm not from Pittsburgh after all!

story sounds crooked to me. not that i can't imagine a football player groping a woman in a club.

Then of course after the '90 season, Tom came here and I went to Cleveland, so we haven't been together since then but we've had, whether he was there or in Jacksonville or in New York or I was in Cleveland or I was in wherever I was before coming back here, we've always maintained a good friendship.

i love that coach bill hates the jets so much that he can't even stomach to acknowledge he was there. he's the greatest *swoon*

the coach's art of pretend forgetfulness

So are the Pats now a "finesse" team?