here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

my friend said that the only bit of advice her former 60s rogue chemist / acid casualty absentee father ever gave her was 'don't do dust'

this anecdote was from 2005 or so lest someone notices parallels with tv shows

Ras-I Dowling released. i think we are ok to conclude now that that draft pick was as terrible as everyone said it was at the time

As Ross Tucker mentioned today, the Patriots have a horrible record when it comes to drafting CBs and WRs.

i think bill just drafts cbs who can tackle and wrs who can run block

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=Nk1fi

r.i.p. big ras

nothing confirmed but i heard a rumour he dislocated his shoulder cleaning out his locker

what the hell is this sentence in the RS hernandez article

But Beli-chick, the winner of three Super Bowl titles and grand wizard of the greatest show on turf, had decided long before he got to New England that such niceties were beneath him.

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all the way thru the article i was thinking wow, this is chock full of bullshit. then i saw yday ppl were saying this was the kind of low-grade fare typical of the borges guy, who i guess is on the globe but i have never even heard of him

yeah 'he'd drive away from the games smoking 3 or 4 blunts', ok uh

Also, Mike Martz would probably be surprised to learn that Belichick was secretly coaching the Rams way back when.

oh fuck they got ron borges to write it??

ron borges got run out of the boston globe for plagiarism and is well-known for having a grudge against belichick that defies all logic and reason. even by sportwriter standards he's an incredibly shitty person.

good to know. i am glad to have avoided him thus far

yeah 'he'd drive away from the games smoking 3 or 4 blunts', ok uh

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hold on i believe this!

rs--you'll appreciate that the rumored origin of borges's insanity is that when he was a beat writer in the late 90s/early 00s his big source in the pats locker room was drew bledsoe. when drew got benched he never got over it.

this is much more irresponsible of rolling stone than the glammy marathon bomber cover.

lol that is great

beat hack's bledsoe gravy train derailed by surly browns flop: full story page 17

xxp i dont nec disbelieve it, it's just a weird picture to paint, obv not for road games...idk, i feel like maybe that happened once or something

our tight end is crazy
he always smokes dust
commutes away to his killing sprees
with 3 or 4 blunts

always smoking so many angel dust cigarettes

fwiw i think borges was more a glorified researcher for the piece its credited as BY PAUL SOLOTAROFF WITH RON BORGES

solotaroff came out 2day in some radio interview saying he thinks hernandez will be back on an nfl team in ~4 yrs

that's cool that you can be on an NFL team while in jail

looks like tebow might have done just enough to leapfrog brady on the depth chart tonight

2 tds, 1 int, 4 sacks - with tebow you always know what you're getting.

That RS article is fantastic / awful, and this piece goes a way in explaining which parts were which: http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2013/08/plagiarist-ruins-perfectly-good-rolling-stone-feature

And is "Beli-chick" a typo or just weird toothless dig that Borges employs when he's talking about Belichick?

Bill Jellyprick has lost his edge.

Fells and Ballard released. so week 1 TE group looks to be Sudfeld and Hoomanawanui. here's hoping Sudfeld is actually as good as he has looked at times.

i assume gronk is coming back soon then?

i knew ballard was gone when he wasn't finishing his routes late in the game last night.

yeah i heard about that. i also wondered if this was an indication that they'll keep gronk off the reg season PUP

trying to go 6 weeks with 2 tight ends would be insane even by patriots standards. tho i guess there's a rumbling that they might re-sign fells after week 1 for less money.

that's interesting. also i guess develin the full back played some practice snaps at TE

mesko cut to save a million bucks, pats are now like $13 million under the cap

tebooooooooooow

i have come to wonder if perhaps the primary reason the patriots signed tebow in the first place was not as a player but as a sober buddy, life coach and lifeline for aaron hernandez, who by most accounts they knew was spiraling out of control. it would make a lot of sense. and if that's the case, the murder -- just one week after they signed tebow -- literally left tebow with no role on the team, which would have made the next couple of months mighty awkward, which they may well in fact have been. in that last preseason game, he looked thoroughly unprepared to be the patriots' second- or third-string quarterback, or anyone's second- or third-string quarterback.

and yet i find all the talk about how his nfl career is clearly over to be way premature. he's a competitor, he's got incredible desire, character of course, and some very obvious football skills unrelated to throwing a ball to a human target. he ain't done.

in the nfl? i have to assume he's done as a quarterback.

and speaking of that last preseason game, tom brady appeared to spend the entirety of it gabbing with julian edelman on the sidelines. there's your third-string qb right there if you really need one.

(xp) i ain't no coach but the dude is smart and inspirational and can run the football and could probably be a perfectly good clipboard-holding backup qb for some second division nfl team somewhere. right? right???

fcc it's pretty well-documented that they tried using tebow to get through to hernandez at florida and it didn't accomplish anything

i like the theory but i'm pretty sure it was just belichick seeing if he could work his magic

also it's known that belichick has a persistent boner for urban meyer players so he was probably unable to stem his curiosity

whatever qualities tebow has they are not sufficient for him to contribute in the nfl. there is no role for him except maybe goal line qb for a team that has a shitty qb anyway, or he would be great catching screen passes i bet. so basically the jets was the perfect spot for him and it still didn't work out. go gentle into that good night, timmy.

(xxxp) true but i'm not sure that would stop the patriots from trying. especially after (a) they spent $40 million on the guy and (b) he came to them crying for help (if you can believe the rolling stone story).

Tebow is gonna crush it on the Rough Riders or the Argonauts or something

Actually he would be an interesting arena league guy

i realized today that even if tebow announced his retirement we'd have to deal with "[team x's] qb hurt WILL THEY CALL TEBOW" stories for at least five years

oh we're nowhere near out of the woods

the real question: what does joe namath think about tebow

he wants to kiss him