here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

on geno i wouldn't rule out my being instinctively selective about the information i retain but as long as someone somewhere is trashing him i will rely on that authority

How much gas does Mankins have left in the tank? Is he gonna be a difference maker for the Bucs' line?

he's got something left, he'll be pretty good. he's just not one of the best three guards in football anymore.

i need to be careful with my thinking here but it seems like they've really found a player in jimmy g

need to cash brady in for a 4th round pick and a tight end before he loses his trade value

2007 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB Miami (Fla.)
4 127 Kareem Brown DT Miami (Fla.)
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T Colorado State
6 180 Justin Rogers LB Southern Methodist
6 202 Mike Richardson DB Notre Dame
6 208 Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma State
7 211 Oscar Lua LB USC
7 247 Mike Elgin G Iowa

2006 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

1 Brandon Meriweather DB
4 Kareem Brown DT
5 Clint Oldenburg T
6 Justin Rogers LB
6 Mike Richardson DB
6 Justise Hairston RB
6 Corey Hilliard OT
7 Oscar Lua LB
7 Mike Elgin G

1 Laurence Maroney RB
2 Chad Jackson WR
3 David Thomas TE
4 Garrett Mills RB
4 Stephen Gostkowski K
5 Ryan O'Callaghan T
6 Jeremy Mincey LB
6 Dan Stevenson G
6 Le Kevin Smith DT
7 Willie Andrews CB

gostkowski was a good fourth round pick. he had some huge shoes to fill, and he has filled them as well as anyone could have hoped for.

jeremy mincey is still kicking around the league i think.

so after all that Mallett was a bad pick

tommy hurt his leg. initial panic rumours that it might be somewhat serious.

bring in the kid

thank god mallett can save them

Bob Smith · Haverhill High School
Where the he'll is the defense? Yeah a championship defense. .what till nextweekend we will be down 2 games. I love belicheck...maybe he needs to retire..the game is starting to pass him by...offense today unbelievably sucks..maybe Brady is sucking and time to RETIRE. .cause he SUCKS TODAY...

lol haverhill high school

they were terrible today tho, up the middle pass protection and up the middle run defense cannot be continuing problems.

last year, iirc, they tended to sleep thru first halves and play like themselves in second halves. looks like they figured out, this year, how to play like themselves in the first half.

I missed this game; I am very, very sad about that

next week: VIKINGS

I missed this game

so did the patriots.

lol basically

wondering how long it will take brady and mcdaniels to discover that tim wright is on the team. i'm still not sure they're aware that danny amendola is on the team.

no way wright knows the playbook well enough to be a lot of help; a couple of the plays where he got the ball today were pretty clearly feature plays for him

the pats will prob be fine imo i think it's possible the dolphins have one of the best d lines in the NFL

i do think mcdaniels got way too pass happy though, even with that deficit there's no reason brady should've thrown the ball 60 something times. esp with a hobbled gronk the pats basically only have one good WR (ok this could be a problem) but a few pretty good backs.

also mentioned this on the Week 1 thread, but the pats gave up a disgusting amount of penalty yards, many of which came in key situations. there were 2 or 3 drives that got totally deflated by ill-timed penalties.

that one sack where wake beat hooman and ridley, it was like wake was superman and hooman was the revolving door, and ridley was an innocent bystander

that sack and the one that essentially ended the game after the dolphins TD, it looked like cam had been shot out of a cannon

the offensive line looked bad but still feel like that's gonna be one of those things that's more a week 1 blip than a crippling deficiency if the starters can stay healthy

the o-line looked really good in the first half is the thing, good protection and grinding that short yardage TD were real nice. NE moved the ball pretty well all half. i am guessing 2nd half was maybe conditions/conditioning and good adjustments by MIA, on top of questionable offensive playcalling. and yeah, the rare times they actually got a first down in the 2nd half it was called back for a pen.

brady also seemed like he had not seen his receivers all summer. i guess with groonk that is understandable. but he read the defense differently on those two big blown plays to gronk down the middle and edelman on the deep corner that he shortened into an out - and both times the receiver seemed to make the right adjustment and brady didn't.

thing is, you watch that game and see a game where the fins got to play the game how they wanted and did it very well and they and the pats combined to make the pats look pretty crappy, and then you watch josh mccown vs derek anderson right after and that is what you might call context

the game in miami is always tough, i'm not taking much away from this.

rip patriots

can't complain too much today, except:

total points in second half this season: 6 (and all 6 of those points came on short drives set up by defense or special teams).

Second week with tons of penalty yards

it was a ridiculously overcalled game for both teams, i don't really care about it.

FUCK YOU, MATT CASSEL

embedded patriot!

lol

sleeper cass-cell

i have been following the advanced football analytics site this season as they have been getting some attention, in particular for their EPA measure, which tbh i don't know how convinced by i am.
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2010/08/glossary.html

anyhow, my reason for mentioning it here is that according to EPA the patriots have the 2nd worst offense in football thru 2 games after jaguars. the is the form of the championship years ppl!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx0WWCTCEAIiyZ9.jpg

love this

Tedy: I remember times when we might have had a lethargic practice in a week like this and he'd get on us for a lack of focus. "You think you're just going to roll your helmet out, with the Patriots logo, and those guys will lay down? Who do you think you are? You think you're going to win? Based on what? Based on what!!??" Then he would show lowlights from practice and he'd keep going. "Based on this effort, you think you're going to win? Based on this block, you think you're going to win? Based on this read in pass coverage that we missed, you think we're going to win?" In one respect, you love that about him. But it can beat you up at times too. I think what it comes down to is this: Sometimes the head coach has to make players hate him to get effort and focus out of them, to have them play with an edge. He did that.

that resume is whiter than the paper it's printed on

i want to know why he never went home to CA in the summer

i want to know why he never went home to CA in the summer

iirc, he played quarterback for a school in ann arbor.

i have every confidence that that is answering my question but it's not clear to me how. would be great if you could elaborate.

i have been following the advanced football analytics site this season as they have been getting some attention, in particular for their EPA measure, which tbh i don't know how convinced by i am.
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2010/08/glossary.html

anyhow, my reason for mentioning it here is that according to EPA the patriots have the 2nd worst offense in football thru 2 games after jaguars. the is the form of the championship years ppl!

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's some stats on there that are literally the opposite of PFF's ratings so I don't know what to think about either

Michael Gallagher ‏@MikeSGallagher 41s

Josh McCown with a 1.0 YPA and a pick. Niiice. The ol' 0.0 passer rating

oh wrong thread sorry, I'm so bad tonight fuck me