here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

hell yea gronk

lol his reaction to his dad getting emo

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/605756951994077184

I feel very conflicted about that tweet...

lol is he fuckin serious

i think he made a joke, and you know good for him

could be, could also be morbs taking control of cruz's twitter account

Brian David Stockman ‏@Carlisleboy 3h3 hours ago
@tedcruz If It was #Killary He'd be Dead, Like Vince #Foster and the Lybian #Benghazi Ambassador and Agents And anyone who gets in her way

http://awfulannouncing.com/the-locker/rob-gronkowskis-family-will-be-on-family-feud.html

oh hell yes this is like a dream come true

otm what will steve make of these goobers

how will steve work his book into conversation with the gronk clan

gronk to be new face of delightful.com

http://www.gronkspartyship.com/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

didn't the vikings get in trouble for that

o m g

buying my ticket now

New England Patriots Envy: The NFL's Ill-Advised Obsession With Bill Belichick Castoffs

challop-ed

http://www.patriots.com/news/2015/06/18/so-slash-guns-n%E2%80%99-roses-huge-patriots-fan

the pats stuff is really ancillary, the lede here is which if either of those bedrooms is slash's

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/13265711/veteran-ol-dan-connolly-new-england-patriots-retires

big dan connolly decides to retire instead of sign for tampa. presumably he received a desperate admiral ackbar text from logan mankins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=222IkMwrIpE

as churlish as it may be to not just enjoy the greatest kick return of all time i can't help but feel that that not going for a td is basically humanity's greatest crime. if i were a benevolent superintelligent alien monitoring earth transmissions and saw connolly get dragged down on the 5 there i would be like nope and turn my space car around.

ayo patritos, that's gonna be a rough start to the season
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/28/nfl-upholds-tom-brady-four-game-suspension/fhOdVIaay3E0lPOIyt4A1J/story.html

lol

hate goodell as much as anyone but i've got a tough time feeling sorry for brady

goodell: brady trashed cell phone

100% brady recycled his phone and SIM when upgrading

not that it matters. fuck goodell for demanding his phone. fuck goodell.

asking for his phone seems like a reasonable measure when conducting an investigation

Would you hand over your personal phone to your boss?

if i thought it would exonerate me, maybe

i mean goodell is a joke and his decision-making process is probably a sham, and i LIKE brady, but he obviously did it so i'm not too torn up about it

I mean, I'd try not to hand over my phone too but I also know everyone would be all "aha that proves guilt" and I'd be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFk2_5RkwlA

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/29/article-0-1B83791F000005DC-809_638x448.jpg

neat picture of robert kraft at today's press conf

neat picture of robert kraft at today's press conf

Yep. Summary: Kraft said it was a mistake to accept the deal and that he should’ve never trust the NFL.

It was also reported that phone records were handed over (i.e. the destroy phone was a red herring and the NFL is full of shit). Go figure.

so kraft accepted the team penalties, expected a quid pro from the league, and then watched goodell cave to other owners.

basically goodell is so inept and rudderless he can't even manage to pull off a back-channel deal correctly.

show of hands: does anybody really believe brady didn't have anything to do with underinflating footballs?

i'm genuinely asking

i do not believe footballs were underinflated?

admittedly i haven't really read a lot about the situation -- the wells report, the rebuttals -- i just find it very plausible that the pats would bend the rules

great contribution k3v, thanks for stopping by

the basic outline of my belief is that we have absolutely no idea what the pressure of the footballs was at gametime vs. the colts. i believe the most brady would have done at any point is instruct the equipment guys to make sure the balls were at the low end of the allowable range. it is possible that to do this they tampered with the balls after the final inspection, and it is also possible that they did not.

admittedly i haven't really read a lot about the situation -- the wells report, the rebuttals -- i just find it very plausible that the pats would bend the rules

LOL. OK.

fwiw it is entirely plausible imo that the pats (or any team) would bend the rules and could well be subject to the fine laid out in the game handbook which iirc is $25K.

the basic outline of my belief is that we have absolutely no idea what the pressure of the footballs was at gametime vs. the colts. i believe the most brady would have done at any point is instruct the equipment guys to make sure the balls were at the low end of the allowable range. it is possible that to do this they tampered with the balls after the final inspection, and it is also possible that they did not.

OTM.

FWIW: a friend who was a D1 QB made this exact claim on Facebook. Everyone asks for the ball to be pressurized to the very bottom of the range.

He also claimed college refs routinely checked the pressure of the ball.

fwiw it is entirely plausible imo that the pats (or any team) would bend the rules and could well be subject to the fine laid out in the game handbook which iirc is $25K.

OTM, too.

yeah aaron rodgers was talking about that, how most qb's like it at the bottom of the range but he actually likes the ball overinflated a little. my guess is brady was an asshole about how he wanted his balls and maybe the staff got overzealous or more likely just sloppy. after all the leaks it turned out only one ball was outside the parameters and considering everything else w/ the investigation and who's handling it i'd be skeptical of even that. don't blame brady for not turning over his phone, goodell' office leaks like crazy and has a tamed press to do it's bidding (espn was ranting yesterday about how disgraceful it was brady was taking the nfl to court) and goodell refused to turn over his phone to the guy he hand picked to investigate his handling of the ray rice incident.

the funniest part of this yesterday was watching local news work themselves into an apoplexy over this and then say "It's a shame the NFL is overshadowing Pedro's day with this"