here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

Which the article doesn't actually establish. If the phone, with data, had been surrendered for inspection, the data would certainly have been placed in the NFL's possession. The bare fact that the data still exists doesn't prove the NFL could access it now by any means in their power.

brady needs to allow the nfl access to the data or be compelled to do so, regardless of where it's stored.

Brady can reasonably say that he is not in possession of the data. He doesn't control the servers where it would now be stored. Anyway, the NFL decided it had enough evidence to draw a conclusion without the phone data.

Now, if Brady were to sue in court over the suspension, perhaps the NFL could pursue the phone data through discovery. So far, Brady has only pursued his appeal under the collective bargaining agreement, as far as I know.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/05/roger-goodell-misled-me-brady-appeal-transcript-shows/

http://www.theonion.com/article/patriots-tired-jimmy-garoppolo-beginning-every-hud-51022?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default

https://twitter.com/_JakeRussell/status/630038112257867776

feelings

oh lol, image tagged a twitter link, not bad

https://twitter.com/_JakeRussell/status/630038112257867776

https://twitter.com/PPVSRB

some good quotes here. judge seems to believe it is likely that deflation occurred (no mention of allowed range tho) and that brady was at least aware of it. skeptical of anything more than that, in particular that the nfl has any actual evidence of brady's involvement or of any 'conspiracy'. nfl response shows they have literally nothing: we think deflation occurred, brady is qb, QED.

nflpa lawyer seems to be a dickhead tho, which could swing the case.

nfl response shows they have literally nothing

I think its more accurate to say that the nfl has circumstantial evidence, but no direct evidence. Given what has been established as fact, one may deduce a limited number of scenarios that fit those facts. A few of those scenarios exculpate Brady, but most would not.

This kind of reasoning would not be sufficient in a criminal trial, but the NFL isn't putting Brady in prison, either. afaics, they are claiming only that a preponderance of the evidence supports their conclusion and that's good enough.

The only real question here is whether the league's actions are allowed under the collective bargaining agreement. If they are allowed, then the 4-game suspension sticks. If not, then he plays.

surprisingly little on process tho, really just allowing the sides to restate their respective cases, which for the nfl is just that cba = rog can do what he wants, which hasn't worked before but doesn't mean it won't work now.

as far as "Given what has been established as fact" and "preponderance of the evidence" go, i guess you have access to some info the rest of us don't

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMOYcQ4WoAA2MT-.jpg

what is Robert durst doing there

I think Brady is going to walk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSlEvG0ngo

CHILLS

also that first cut of patricia is hilarious

Right?

latest brady judge quotes make it clear there is no way if he is forced to a ruling that the suspension will stand, even if you allow for some rhetoric with him trying to push the nfl towards settlement.

i will be sad when this is resolved whatever the outcome because it has been at least a little distraction from the miserable reality that the pats lost two gdamn draft picks over this weak shit

http://www.stradleylaw.com/bob-mcnair-deflategate-comments/

imo owners would be advised to keep this whole thing at arms length to avoid getting shit on their sports coat by association. for some i'm sure it is hard to suppress their glee at the stitch up.

brady freed

for now at least

lol

i cant see how it would matter even if the league did appeal, which, like...god just let this die

that said it does allow the pats to soldier on like the automatons of corporate nobility kraft wants them to be, was kinda hoping this would make them into truly vicious heels who might actually be entertaining as a result

truly vicious heels who might actually be entertaining

wait, they aren't?

looking at comments from pats fans and can see cogs slowly but slowly turning as they realize that no the draft picks aren't coming back and kraft fucked them over by laying down on the team punishment

[pounds sam adams]

canyon between brady appealing as a player and the team fighting their part of course but the angry mob won't pick up on that

xps mook i dunno, they're a team whose slogan last year was "do your job," that's pretty neutered and corporate imo, kraft's corrupt oligarch status is villainous but in the same banal fashion

like this is an absurd sport, it deserves more comic book villains in its repertoire, resurrect al davis imo

[pounds sam adams]

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:47 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha damn man its early in colorado, hope you have the day off

love itttt

I don't like the Pats but I'm pretty happy about this really

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN_LlrtWIAEsESW.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN_IHa_XAAAlGKU.png

lmao

[pounds sam adams]

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:47 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha damn man its early in colorado, hope you have the day off

― slothroprhymes, Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:54 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/KbJvGvw.jpg

lol what a great day.

bill belichick just gave the most cheerful interview i've ever seen him give

my Dolphins fan friends are treating this verdict like the Casey Anthony trial. idgi. this was the right decision all around.

You can't basically let the Vikings and Panthers do something similar and be all like "aight knock it the fuck off" and nothing more, then get advance warning about the Patriots do it and decide to ensnare them in a sting operation. Not to mention that no matter the suspicions, that Wells Report didn't prove a damn thing.

any legal experts wanna weigh in on the likelihood of the ruling being reversed on appeal?

from what i've read the 2nd circuit is considered highly competent and is unlikely to overturn a reasonable ruling.

feeling deflated by this turn of events :'-(

altho it makes goodell look dumb so yay i guess

Goodell's been an unmitigated disaster, part of me wonders how well Tagliabue would have fared in this day and age. he definitely was too soft on discipline, Goodell's largely overcorrected but then just when you think he's just a stern disciplinarian that gets a little overzealous, he completely whiffs on the Ray Rice incident.

he didn't create most of the problems the league has now but he sure as shit hasn't really improved them either.

I'd love to hear what kind of smack Tagliabue is talking about Goodell when he thinks no one will repeat what he's saying.

"really bad kisser"

lol massachusetts is sometimes the best kind of assholes http://deadspin.com/patriots-planned-to-raise-a-tom-brady-banner-if-brady-w-1728717380

i found this funny when it happened, i find it funny that they upheld it, i find it funny that they struck it down. all this shit is funny.

wonder if Goodell is gonna pull a Bill Pullman in ID4 and strap on a helmet and try to take him down...ON the field!