here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

but it should be between kraft and goodell

"And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win!"

any legal experts wanna weigh in on the likelihood of the ruling being reversed on appeal?

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, September 4, 2015 1:22 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Im not lawyer but basic access to evidence and witnesses is the backbone of our legal system and rog didnt think it applied in his kangaroo court

it was def a farce of a 'trial' in the NFL, but some have said (and I don't know how accurate they are) that it seems to be a right afforded to him by the CBA and that it's weird that it got overturned. mostly why I'm curious.

the ruling was based on lack of notice of punishment, lack of access to witnesses, and lack of equal access to information, all of which have fuck all to do with rog's rights under integrity of the game.

aight cool. I don't want it to be overturned, not just cos I feel it's the right decision, but cos I love watching Goodell resemble a beleaguered school principal more and more each day

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13533995/split-nfl-new-england-patriots-apart

yikes

literally no new information in there afaict

Included are several damaging new allegations, including that the Patriots actually had people break into locker rooms and hotels to steal play sheets in addition to other more general spy work.

There are plenty of candidates to choose from, but the biggest headline from the piece might just be the belief that DeflateGate was what one owner described as a “makeup call” for Roger Goodell and the NFL badly botching SpyGate and actively covering up just how bad it was in the face of a congressional investigation.

information, not speculation

Michael McCann @McCannSportsLaw
Tom Brady confirms @realDonaldTrump's "Make America Great America" hat was in his locker, says he's good friend & has done "amazing" things.

gross if true

lol

finally, something we can appropriately villainize the patriots for

lol so apparently on espn this morning goodell vehemently denied that spygate had any impact on their decisions re: deflategate and last week the nfl told a judge the reason they came down so hard on the pats for deflategate was because of spygate

Did the NFL feed spygate details to ESPN as a response to their humiliation over deflategate?

yeah there's speculation about that too. i'm skeptical just because it's van natta and i'd guess this story has been in the works awhile. don van natta's about as far from a league mouthpiece as you can be and work for espn.

don van natta's about as far from a league mouthpiece as you can be and work for espn

yea, thats the main reason i bothered to read the whole thing bc otherwise it would reek of nothing but league counterattack. tbf that is prob still an element to some extent, no doubt, but van natta's a really good reporter and wouldnt have published this w/o being pretty confident of his shit's veracity

does any of it ultimately matter at this point? not entirely sure.

we can all agree tho that the bradyman needs to never speak about politics in public ever again

xp but i mean there's nothing to believe in the veracity of

like every example is "some team suspected this but there was no proof"

actually the make america great again hats are extremely tight

http://i.imgur.com/Xqh9iLq.png

heh

lol

Genuinely the first thing Belichick has said that makes me like him

'I don't Twitter, I don't MyFace, I don't Yearbook' - 2011

xp lol no love for "I've handled dozens of balls?"

I saved all of those lols for Brady

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPEydPfUcAAQfKK.jpg

maybe Trump could take the fall for spygate?

mookie you just peeled my brain back

brady tryna throw us off the scent of the truth, a likely story buddy http://mashable.com/2015/09/28/tom-brady-donald-trump/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#8wX1d3.wXkql

complete with groans about teh clicks!

"I don’t even know what the issues are. I haven’t paid attention to politics in a long time. It’s actually not something that I really even enjoy. It’s way off my radar.”

When you're rich as fuck, you get to not know what the issues are.

wow cant believe this quarterback doesnt live up to my political standards im libel to tweet

yeah if i'm a pro qb and i'm married to a victoria's secret model my guess is i don't give a fuuuuuck about much else

I'm more amused by him thinking he needed to equivocate about it than anything else, but then again toeing the kraft line of #theway does not exactly allow for "next question"

pretty sure the nfl does not allow the use of 'radar' wtf

http://www.adweek.com/files/2015_Sep/gronk-ship-minion-02-2015.jpg

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/10/09/report-tom-brady-guru-accused-making-false-claims/kJvXQHx0ljjZKzanMjZ6QP/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter

I'll bet it is:

http://www.patriots.com/news/2015/10/09/going-home-big-d-motivation-some-patriots

deadspin made a blog post just for this getty photo from sunday's game and i agree it is pretty damn striking
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VTga4BKI--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1470929160405761858.jpg

solder out for the season. was poor against cowboys while he was in but sounds like that may be related. bummer.

more amazing photos from sunday's game

so cool

Tony Romo didn't play in Sunday's Cowboys-Patriots game, but he had a message for New England QB Tom Brady regardless: "See you at the title game in February." Romo's comments, made during the postgame handshake, were caught by a mike on Showtime's "Inside the NFL."

http://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fmedia%2Fgettyphoto%2F2015%2F10%2F11%2F492301740.jpg&w=640

That's cool, maybe Brady can hook him up with some tickets

tarell brown on IR, another player lost at a thin position

feel like the perfect end to the patriots antihero storyline will be when brady gets caught juicing after the they go 19-0 this season