here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

@bruceallen
Source: ESPN readying new hit piece on Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and Robert Kraft set to publish tomorrow morning at 8am. The topic will be a power struggle among the trio as to who deserves the most credit for the dynasty.

bart scott "can't wait"

wow its sad to see such 3 such sexy people fight like this

The article claims that the rift is so severe many Patriots feel this is the last year together for the trio. Also that Brady went to Kraft to force Belichick to trade Jimmy G. ESPN is planning a full day of promotion tomorrow for the article and its author @SethWickersham

— Bruce Allen (@bruceallen) January 5, 2018

honestly, and i say this as a life long patriots fan, its wld be fn hilarious if they broke up over all three of them being insanely pompous success dads

like credit isnt even a real thing how are they keeping score here

Is that guy a noteworthy Boston media guy? He's very pasty looking

Are you guys upset about losing "jimmy g"

on bay area sports talk they say "jimmy g" now with a frequency that i find upsetting

jimmy g was seen as the successor to brady and it was shocking when he was traded, def got the feeling something was going on behind the scenes, some ppl r prob upset

and how can u not say jimmy g it sounds so right, like some suburban pasta chain with 12 locations throughout central massachusetts and northern connecticut

didn't they basically have to choose between jimmy g & brady cuz of the salary cap

btw im just here for the drama

tommy's been looking shaky recently

i dont really know the details since i dont follow football but yeah keeping jimmy g wldve cost them they wldve had to franchise him next year i think, but also belichick was quoted as saying "i can win with jimmy g" meaning post brady obvs

belichick obvs wld totally do something like cut brady in the offseason, and kraft and brady know that

it's cool that kraft is still dating that gal from the weird deadspin video

the contours of this story feel more like brady and kraft vs belichick than a three way melee to me

with the main contention being bradys future with the team

a 3 way melee doesn't quite make sense anyway cuz it's not like kraft is gonna sell the team. so it's either brady or belichick.

yeah the way the tweet is phrased it doesnt really make sense tho i guess i cld see all of them just being sick of each others odious shit

picking a 40 year old player over the greatest coach of all time would be really stupid but also a guy like belichick could more easily just wear on people over time & i could see him getting pushed out even tho it would be the end of the pats dynasty as we know it

kraft i cld def see letting sentimentality over wanting to see brady retire a patriot sway him, and its not even that big of a deal youd have a year or two of him playing crappy/being injured then hed give up and hopefully u have a young quaterback ready to go, this of course is unacceptable to belichicks reptilian brain

it's never even occurred to me that belichick would coach even for a minute after brady retired

and shedding jimmy g was bizarre, but not out-of-proportion bizarre compared to shedding chandler jones or jamie collins or anyone else they're shedded during the brady and beli years.

i think it seemed especially bizarre just from the pov that belicheck viewed jimmy g as bradys successor

a QB of jimmy g's caliber if he's really this good is not usually replaceable

the chances of them getting someone better after brady leaves are not very high i don't think

ya prob not

tho i can totally understand wanting brady to retire as a patriot, it matters as far as the whole concept of ~a dynasty~

Is that guy a noteworthy Boston media guy? He's very pasty looking

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:00 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he runs a boston sports media blog, not really notable but a little connected

the contours of this story feel more like brady and kraft vs belichick than a three way melee to me

― lag∞n, Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:14 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as a reluctant close observer of this mess this is otm; kraft helped brady buy his f'n house and i think it would break whatever heart bob has to see brady end his career someplace else. unfortunately brady is also delusional.

the funniest thing about this is pats fans, esp. "rational" ones, being in complete denial that it could possibly be true.

its true that brady thinking he has power over time itself is very key to this situation

so brady is whiterose?

i understand how much ppl would like there to be a story here, but it's a bit weird no one yet has mentioned how extremely dumb this sounds

also - poly, wait until jimmy gets a social media team behind 'jimmy gq', you'll be longing for the jimmy g days

brady to be fair is still really good tho no

xps

oh there's 100% a story here

what do you mean?

anyway, on the trade, brady was playing his best football when they moved jimmy. there's really nothing to be explained about why the trade happened. of course, since then he is on the injury report with 2 different things and is probably suddenly, finally, cataclysmically breaking down, so given a do-over i'd vote for keeping jimmy and sending tom to the browns

i don't think bill wanted to trade jimmy and i think he was given a mandate to do so. it may be that simple, or there may be other stuff too, but there's way too much smoke for it to be nothing.

seth wickersham is pretty connected. greg bedard, who is not in the clickbait business, has repeatedly implied that he knows something along these lines.

idk stupider things have happened with this football team but it doesn't sound plausible at all to me. doesn't line up at all with the story about belichick clowning john lynch in the summer for inquiring after brady's availability. the trade part is thin and the fight over the dynasty is dumb as hell. we'll see i guess.

i know! i'm just telling you something is going on. i also don't think the trade is that clear-cut. trading brissett, then trading jimmy, and getting a bad receiver, a 2nd, and brian hoyer when you're trying to win a super bowl is an odd use of resources.

well we will see "competition over who gets credit" certainly doesnt sound very interesting but maybe there will be ~details~

oraying for quality drama

trading brissett, then trading jimmy, and getting a bad receiver, a 2nd, and brian hoyer when you're trying to win a super bowl is an odd use of resources.

otm. then again, BB has a history of making strange, eyebrow-raising personnel moves that somehow end up working out almost always. he's earned the benefit of a million doubts. and yet, two months after the last domino fell in that string of moves, it remains completely unclear what the upside is, while the downside remains rather obvious. but still, it's BB, so.

bill made his rep as a personnel guy by moving players before anyone saw their decline coming. how do you think he feels about tom?

no one yet has mentioned how extremely dumb this sounds

humans doing dumb things is kind of inevitable.

and remember, this is all about American football, where very large men hurl themselves into one another repeatedly in an effort to advance a pig's bladder a few feet forward, while pretending it is the most serious business imaginable.

im watching sportscenter right now and wickersham is on here saying that brady used kraft to get jimmy g traded