here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

i dont really know the details since i dont follow football but yeah keeping jimmy g wldve cost them they wldve had to franchise him next year i think, but also belichick was quoted as saying "i can win with jimmy g" meaning post brady obvs

belichick obvs wld totally do something like cut brady in the offseason, and kraft and brady know that

it's cool that kraft is still dating that gal from the weird deadspin video

the contours of this story feel more like brady and kraft vs belichick than a three way melee to me

with the main contention being bradys future with the team

a 3 way melee doesn't quite make sense anyway cuz it's not like kraft is gonna sell the team. so it's either brady or belichick.

yeah the way the tweet is phrased it doesnt really make sense tho i guess i cld see all of them just being sick of each others odious shit

picking a 40 year old player over the greatest coach of all time would be really stupid but also a guy like belichick could more easily just wear on people over time & i could see him getting pushed out even tho it would be the end of the pats dynasty as we know it

kraft i cld def see letting sentimentality over wanting to see brady retire a patriot sway him, and its not even that big of a deal youd have a year or two of him playing crappy/being injured then hed give up and hopefully u have a young quaterback ready to go, this of course is unacceptable to belichicks reptilian brain

it's never even occurred to me that belichick would coach even for a minute after brady retired

and shedding jimmy g was bizarre, but not out-of-proportion bizarre compared to shedding chandler jones or jamie collins or anyone else they're shedded during the brady and beli years.

i think it seemed especially bizarre just from the pov that belicheck viewed jimmy g as bradys successor

a QB of jimmy g's caliber if he's really this good is not usually replaceable

the chances of them getting someone better after brady leaves are not very high i don't think

ya prob not

tho i can totally understand wanting brady to retire as a patriot, it matters as far as the whole concept of ~a dynasty~

Is that guy a noteworthy Boston media guy? He's very pasty looking

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:00 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he runs a boston sports media blog, not really notable but a little connected

the contours of this story feel more like brady and kraft vs belichick than a three way melee to me

― lag∞n, Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:14 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as a reluctant close observer of this mess this is otm; kraft helped brady buy his f'n house and i think it would break whatever heart bob has to see brady end his career someplace else. unfortunately brady is also delusional.

the funniest thing about this is pats fans, esp. "rational" ones, being in complete denial that it could possibly be true.

its true that brady thinking he has power over time itself is very key to this situation

so brady is whiterose?

i understand how much ppl would like there to be a story here, but it's a bit weird no one yet has mentioned how extremely dumb this sounds

also - poly, wait until jimmy gets a social media team behind 'jimmy gq', you'll be longing for the jimmy g days

brady to be fair is still really good tho no

xps

oh there's 100% a story here

what do you mean?

anyway, on the trade, brady was playing his best football when they moved jimmy. there's really nothing to be explained about why the trade happened. of course, since then he is on the injury report with 2 different things and is probably suddenly, finally, cataclysmically breaking down, so given a do-over i'd vote for keeping jimmy and sending tom to the browns

i don't think bill wanted to trade jimmy and i think he was given a mandate to do so. it may be that simple, or there may be other stuff too, but there's way too much smoke for it to be nothing.

seth wickersham is pretty connected. greg bedard, who is not in the clickbait business, has repeatedly implied that he knows something along these lines.

idk stupider things have happened with this football team but it doesn't sound plausible at all to me. doesn't line up at all with the story about belichick clowning john lynch in the summer for inquiring after brady's availability. the trade part is thin and the fight over the dynasty is dumb as hell. we'll see i guess.

i know! i'm just telling you something is going on. i also don't think the trade is that clear-cut. trading brissett, then trading jimmy, and getting a bad receiver, a 2nd, and brian hoyer when you're trying to win a super bowl is an odd use of resources.

well we will see "competition over who gets credit" certainly doesnt sound very interesting but maybe there will be ~details~

oraying for quality drama

trading brissett, then trading jimmy, and getting a bad receiver, a 2nd, and brian hoyer when you're trying to win a super bowl is an odd use of resources.

otm. then again, BB has a history of making strange, eyebrow-raising personnel moves that somehow end up working out almost always. he's earned the benefit of a million doubts. and yet, two months after the last domino fell in that string of moves, it remains completely unclear what the upside is, while the downside remains rather obvious. but still, it's BB, so.

bill made his rep as a personnel guy by moving players before anyone saw their decline coming. how do you think he feels about tom?

no one yet has mentioned how extremely dumb this sounds

humans doing dumb things is kind of inevitable.

and remember, this is all about American football, where very large men hurl themselves into one another repeatedly in an effort to advance a pig's bladder a few feet forward, while pretending it is the most serious business imaginable.

im watching sportscenter right now and wickersham is on here saying that brady used kraft to get jimmy g traded

and that the quack trainer is splitting the team apart

the pats dynasty getting broken apart because of a goop-esque quack doctor would be the funniest possible ending

This is all pretty surprising if true I mean BB and Brady have been riding high together for 17(!) seasons.

yesssss bring the drama!

brady is becoming a cult member

he's tom cruise and scientology

The Boston Sports Journal would report on another player who was told by Patriots trainers to do squats but later instructed by Guerrero to not do them. Brady would tell teammates, "Bill's answer to everything is to lift more weights" -- a claim that many staffers and players felt was unfair, given the team's dedication to soft-tissue science and a healthy diet.

anyone who knows me knows I am fucking dedicated to soft tissue science motherfucker

so the Guerrero stuff is the actual substance in the article. even if we can't necessarily have much confidence in the additional colour provided, enough key elements are already established to make it evident that he is yokoing the joint.

most everything else is p embarrassing fluff, and some of it is really quite stupid. idk how anyone can read that drafting jimmy was some key strategic change of tack for belichick and then feel good about all the rest of the conjecture. The wilful effort to totally fail to understand the trade in order to create a story vaccuum is exceptional work.

Patriots fans in denial of their figureheads being ....... some messy bitches

#tb12

how are they willfully misunderstanding the trade

Mike Glennon got 15 mill this off-season and bill let him go for a 2nd rounder?

not sure those things are related in the way you want them to be but ok.

pats like jimmy as the qb after brady. however, brady is still going strong, and they have to make a decision on jimmy for 2018 when his contract is up. #1 they see if they can possibly keep both for a couple more years by having jimmy sign a deal that they can manage alongside brady but way less then the FA deal he would get, with the incentive being he gets the keys to the limo if he sticks around. jimmy says no. so coming into 2017 season, pats know that after this year, they can only have one of jimmy or brady. that offseason is the optimum time to trade jimmy for value, but pats reasonably decide that the most value is in holding onto him into the season in case brady hits a wall. by the time the trade deadline approaches, brady is having an mvp year and shows no sign of slowing down. this is the last possible opportunity to trade jimmy for anything at all, so the pats have absolutely zero leverage, and they still get a pick at the top of the 2nd round, m/l equivalent to another 1st round pick for them.

there isn't a giant hole in the story that needs filling in with intrigue, no matter how much we may dearly, credulously want there to be.