America's favorite dystopian pastime - 'out of the darkness' NFL 2023-24

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Wondered that a lot about the various QBs drafted by the Browns and Bears, who knows what could’ve happened if they went to a team that actually knows how to develop QBs

frogbs, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:38 (nine months ago) link

"here in illustrious Kansas City, you can have yourselves some wonderful barbecue, but you'd be remiss if you didn't pay a visit to the Cade McNown statue downtown"

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:46 (nine months ago) link

“the score really doesn’t show what happened out there” - micha parsons

brimstead, Monday, 9 October 2023 23:46 (nine months ago) link

He passess to the scoreboard

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 October 2023 23:49 (nine months ago) link

One sports writer I read said that Purdy is the perfect quarterback for Shanahan, he a talented novice player who doesn’t have any history of patterns that need to be corrected, but he is someone Shanahan can mold as a piece of clay in his own image, an avatar for him on the field

Dan S, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 00:06 (nine months ago) link

"purdy cannot throw a ball through a pane of glass" is about right but doesn't need to do i guess.

was always told that the reason qbs often seem to flame out is that they are "solve-able," and once the book is wrote, that's it.

i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 01:52 (nine months ago) link

that sounds like it ought to be a coaching problem?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 02:44 (nine months ago) link

I'll defer to brownie's opinion on Anderson though as I didn't see him play every week!

Thanks Neando - I'm glad you came to me first rather than learning about Derek Anderson on the streets.

The 2007 Browns had:

Jamal Lewis, older but still good (1300 yards rushing!)
Braylon Edwards, peak year
Kellen Winslow, peak year
Josh Cribbs returning kicks
Phil Dawson kicking

Then Derek Anderson, who was serviceable. He had no touch on short passes - it was painful watching him try to complete screens and short crosses but when you have Jamal Lewis you could go deep more often. He really was a poor mans Flacco. He is now, politically, the poor mans Curt Schilling.

Kelly Holcomb was the true flash in the pan.

brownie, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 13:06 (nine months ago) link

Kellen Winslow, man I forgot about him. Probably for the best.

omar little, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 14:52 (nine months ago) link

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:51 (nine months ago) link

"purdy cannot throw a ball through a pane of glass" is about right but doesn't need to do i guess.

If this is critiquing his accuracy it's flat out wrong. Dude was as accurate as Rodgers or Brady Sunday night, dropping in elite level accuracy on throws over 20-30 yards down field all night. See: First Kittle TD, Aiyuk completion that was called back due to holding, and the third Kittle TD for starters. Multiple passes over the middle were as elite throws as anyone in the league can throw when hitting a window pane target.

If it's critiquing his arm strength this is also dumb. Dude is leading the league in deep ball accuracy after the last game too, overtaking Tua.

Dude is doing anything you'd ask any of the best QBs to do in the league at this stage and doing it without making many mistakes against (alleged) top flight defenses like Dallas.

octobeard, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 18:19 (nine months ago) link

yea its pretty easy to suspect something flukey is going on but when you actually watch him its like nah he's legitimately good

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 18:24 (nine months ago) link

I mean obviously a lot of that is on the coaching staff because so many of those throws are aimed directly at where the receiver is going to be in 3/4 of a second but also, he's very accurate on those throws, and a whole lot of QBs arent

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 18:27 (nine months ago) link

Exactly, see Love and Jimmy G last night if you need examples of what actual middling QB play looks like.

octobeard, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 20:21 (nine months ago) link

i guess there aren't too many compelling matchups this week, but having the nyfg (+15) at buffalo as your NBC Football Night in America Game of the Week is lol

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 October 2023 20:03 (nine months ago) link

Purdy finally got his first loss, vs. Cleveland’s 3rd stringer no less. Took some doing by the refs but still he played pretty bad

frogbs, Sunday, 15 October 2023 20:37 (nine months ago) link

Yeah that was an ugly game - but Purdy did get them into reasonable field goal range and Moody was wide right. Hope this doesn't mess up Moody's and Purdy's confidence moving forward. Looking for a bounce back against the Vikings next Monday.

octobeard, Sunday, 15 October 2023 20:49 (nine months ago) link

Also fingers crossed on the injuries

octobeard, Sunday, 15 October 2023 20:49 (nine months ago) link

Cleveland's D is pretty legit. They mangled the Bengals in week one, they could not do anything.

Fox has the national game of Eagles/Jets when there is actually a game with division leaders in the Lions/Bucs happening. Got to love that NY TV market, even when their clubs stink.

earlnash, Sunday, 15 October 2023 21:26 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, Lions/Bucs is a good game so far.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 15 October 2023 22:29 (nine months ago) link

just flipped it on to check the score, can't believe the Bills have to go through this shit AGAIN

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 01:50 (nine months ago) link

Hamlin watching from the sidelines too sheesh

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 01:51 (nine months ago) link

Can't believe the 49ers lost that game. Fox switched the feed and missed the ending

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:28 (nine months ago) link

Rams looked good when they run the ball, the problem is Mcvay always gives up on the run. He gets inpatient

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:29 (nine months ago) link

Lotta bad football today

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 October 2023 02:33 (nine months ago) link

yeah 9ers loss was brutal, hope both Samuel and McCaffrey are ok

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:37 (nine months ago) link

Nope

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:40 (nine months ago) link

Talking about game

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:40 (nine months ago) link

Giants

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:41 (nine months ago) link

Bills were 15 point favorites and have scored 0 in the first 3 quarters

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:43 (nine months ago) link

Too easy

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:43 (nine months ago) link

What

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:46 (nine months ago) link

MLB

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:48 (nine months ago) link

Bills defense is paper thin

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:55 (nine months ago) link

But then holds for three

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 02:56 (nine months ago) link

Touchdown

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:07 (nine months ago) link

Giants are going to win this aren't they?

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:15 (nine months ago) link

not a chance

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:17 (nine months ago) link

I guess not

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:21 (nine months ago) link

my preseason prediction was that the Lions would look like the Giants do now and vice versa. I just feel like the Lions always fall apart the instant anyone expects anything out of them while the Giants did look pretty good last year. I mean Daniel Jones looked like he was on his way to becoming a menace and he's just really sucked this year.

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:23 (nine months ago) link

Missed it

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:27 (nine months ago) link

...

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:33 (nine months ago) link

oh my god what is happening

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:34 (nine months ago) link

One more play

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:35 (nine months ago) link

Flag, really?

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:36 (nine months ago) link

It was

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:37 (nine months ago) link

Wow

Bee OK, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:37 (nine months ago) link

genuinely crazy ending it feels like a college game

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:37 (nine months ago) link

if you take out the Cardinals game the Giants offense has scored 1 touchdown this season

frogbs, Monday, 16 October 2023 03:45 (nine months ago) link

Giants fans and analysts got one mediocre season out of Joe Judge before declaring him the second coming of Lombardi then promptly realizing he wasn't. Now they are going to do the exact same thing with Daboll. Hilarious.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 16 October 2023 11:49 (nine months ago) link


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