Los Angeles Rams

i was not a sports fan the first time around. i'm going to adopt them and jumping on board.

Go Rams.

felt that this needed its own thread.

Tempted to start a St. Louis Jaguars thread.

Go San Diego Raiders!!

st louis and the state of missouri still owe ~90 million in bonds for the 20 year old stadium the rams are abandoning.

if the greatest fans in the world can't keep two NFL teams then hope is lost for that town.

incredible xp

are stadiums always total screwjobs for the local govt or does it just seem that way

haw @ nomar

Welcome home, Georgia.

http://i.imgur.com/u8PqgYp.jpg

are stadiums always total screwjobs for the local govt or does it just seem that way

― art, Wednesday, January 13, 2016 3:08 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tide seems to be turning, more privatily funded construction recently/munisipalities refusing to foot the bill, but it def was standard for a while

Sometimes the stadium projects that don't accept public financing wind up costing the city just as much in the long-run. For example:

For years now, the Giants have billed AT&T Park as "the first privately financed ballpark in Major League Baseball since 1962." This is true if you don't count an estimated $25 million in municipal fire, police and garbage services; $33 million for the land itself, donated by the city; $83 million in property-tax exemptions

This doesn't seem like a big deal now because SF is awash with cash and the Giants are perennial winners. But there are a lot of ways for the teams to take advantage.

the Cincinnati stadium deal was really bad

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704461304576216330349497852

On top of paying for the stadium, Hamilton County granted the Bengals generous lease terms. It agreed to pick up nearly all operating and capital improvement costs—and to foot the bill for high-tech bells and whistles that have yet to be invented, like a "holographic replay machine."

One of the all-time worst:

http://deadspin.com/5978964/the-real-cost-to-miami-for-marlins-park-is-in-the-billions

the proposal for the inglewood stadium is allegedly privately financed, but has a bunch of tax cuts baked in. but the best part is that NFL has decided that its entitled to fucking SALES TAX revenue generated within the stadium for itself which inglewood was hoping to take to off-set the other breaks.

@Alex_Flanagan
NFL has framework of a stadium deal between the rams/chargers. Chargers vetting it now and barring anything unforeseen, plan on going to LA

jfc stay in sd u stinkers

ugh

I love pro sports but they are a huge disgrace in so many ways

football shd be illegal its bad

smh. Inglewood, always up to no good.

One of the all-time worst:

http://deadspin.com/5978964/the-real-cost-to-miami-for-marlins-park-is-in-the-billions

― polyphonic, Wednesday, January 13, 2016 2:38 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xzjiC7uYouYpj2/giphy.gif

But worth every penny!

i love that dumb thing

its extremely good the design of the whole stadium is pretty great tbh

nfl is like 100x better on tv than live; fuck giving those assholes public money for stadiums that 'last' 20 years

tbh all the games should be played in a bunker and i will root for the blue teams over the red ones

reasonable imo

use criminals to fill the stands

make the ball pink so chicks will dig it

use criminals to fill the stands

usually they're just in the owners' booths zingggg

televised nfl is not like this amazing immersive experience really feel we need to rethink that trope

football in person *is* garbage tho

especially since its very cold many of the games, like if someone invited me to a patriots playoff game when the temperature was 25 id prob just be like naaw

30 i wld consider if it was sunny out

i saw the vikes play at the metrodome, in p good seats, and it was so fucking boring --- the commercial breaks are so much worse when you're not even seeing the commercials --- everyone just stops playing for a couple minutes and it doesn't make any sense

Live football is awesome. I just won't drive four hours to see the Fins in their current state

commercial breaks are a good time to sneak out the dead bodies of fans who have died from exposure or boredom

going to a game is like

- dan snyder charges you for a license, a seat, parking and the right to cross an eight-lane highway
- you are surrounded by 70000 drunk and unpleasantly aggressive ppl (this seems particular to football; not sure if it's the tailgating or the nature of football itself)
- there's like 20 minutes of action -- probably at the other end of the field -- in between timeouts, and you can't see anywhere near the shit you can see on tv
- show me your tits at gate d
- two hours getting out of the parking lot

plus odds are your team sucks or its best player got carted off. i don't need to be immersed in that

Not been to a soccer match eh

Re: aggressive people

on the plus side i guess you avoid jim nantz

soccer is a million times better live

hammer smashed bagels florida resident and frequent attender of european soccer matches

american soccer fans are so try-hard ugh

the whole culture of football is so garbage its really obvious compared to say basketball as soon as you turn on the tv

Tailgating is fun. I've been to a couple college games without tickets and just hung out in the parking lot.

I like going to the ballpark for baseball games but even with that sport the price seems insane for what you get. Football is even worse. Best way to go is if you end up with free corp comp tickets somehow, which is how I saw most of the NBA games I went to see.

On a similar but related note, San Antonio Raiders would be very weird. I guess locals could mix and match their Spurs gear with the Raiders though.

well, they can't do military flyovers in basketball

but they do have lakersbro

I've been to two football games in my life and they both sucked. I can't even imagine what a huge NFL game is like where you sit 1000 feet away from nowhere.

Basketball games where you get a glimpse of the court as you make your way from the concourse into the arena and the excitement is bouncing off the walls is 1100x better... and I can't stand basketball.

football obvs has a super wide audince including myself but at its heart its a white suburban republican dad

http://i.imgur.com/7lSLLAa.png

Basketball games where you get a glimpse of the court as you make your way from the concourse into the arena and the excitement is bouncing off the walls is 1100x better... and basketball is one of the best things.

― pplains, Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Live basketball sucks unless you live in a sports town with a contender. I used to go to Magic games all the time and it had the atmosphere of a damp fart.

P sure Warriors games are a blast sure....

it's my understanding that everything in florida apart from college football has the atmosphere of a damp fart

i'm glad lagoon also hates basketball with me.

o snap, didn't see you editing me.

40 minutes of pplains tho

Heh, more like 4 minutes. o wait, this isn't the excelsior thread, my bad.

HOCKEY

hockey is such a dumb sport but it's pretty good live

gbx otm

hockey is awesome always but the speed of everything is different and better live

o snap, didn't see you editing me.

― pplains, Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:59 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:]

that said, the nhl has totally fucked up in arizona and long island and the american south in general and seems poised for a disaster in las vegas

it's trying to knuckle calgary now, but the mayor, at least, seems to have the right attitude. what are they gonna do, move the flames back to atlanta?

basically pro sports leagues are just fucked up and evil

i wld attend p much any basketball game bad atmosphere or no but im hoops mad m8

kinda intrigued by the sociological aspects of this tbh

your town has had no team for 20 years and now two show up; who do you root for? maybe some fans' parents were in love with vince ferragamo, maybe some are from southerly areas that looked to the chargers. they both wear blue and yellow!

probably most will be choices as half-assed as bee ok's

if the rams agree to go back to the yellow n blue unis root for them imo

chargers' powder blues are p. sweet imo

the old ones r good the new ones are typical ersatz bs

i think the rams had baby blue n white too way back

eh i guess just navy

i still believe in the hiking patrito

he has a name its pat patriot

hello bb

http://i.imgur.com/kLnIuph.jpg

destitute man's steely mcbeam imo

steely is quite out of his mind imho

hockey's great in person but sucks on TV. Pretty much the exact opposite of football.

Trivia answer on the old sportstalk show once was Vince Ferragamo and our host went into this big spiel about how Ferragamo later went Hollywood and became the star of "The Hulk Man". I miss those days sometimes.

probably most will be choices as half-assed as bee ok's

some reasons why i want to give up on the San Francisco 49ers:

1. i left San Francisco
2. they are no longer in San Francisco
3. XLVII
4. Jim Harbaugh situation
5. Jed York

(sadly, i probably can't)