btw, is this still OUR COUNTRY? or do we all drive Hondaz now? A quandry by Jon Cougar Williamsburg

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― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Check the Dixie Highway!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

NO THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

As controversial as some of the images in the Chevy commercial might be, Tezanos confirms reports that Chevy considered using footage of an atomic bomb explosion. The intent was to signify the beginning of the nuclear era, but Chevy's ad agency, Campbell-Ewald of suburban Detroit, removed it, in part because it might offend Japanese Americans.

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

FINALLY SOME CLOSURE

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahahaha WOW.

I genuinely hope GM gets bought by Toyota or something. It's just pathetic at this point.

― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

The whole thing offends me, I mean it is like some sub-Riefenstahl bullshit they are putting on my tv, EVERY COMMERCIAL BREAK for one full quarter of a game?? Like I didn't see it the first time. This is our country so go ahead and destroy it with your unnecessary trucks and SUVs, soccer moms and dads. Guzzle that gas! Plus, what the hell are they talking about when they show the dude sleeping on logs and say "This is our breakfast"??? I hope John Mellencamp shits himself uncontrollably every night, Hasselhoff style, in retribution.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

dave you probably haven't even seen the dixie highway, much less driven on it. colloquially, it's known as the dixie DIE-way, because of all the drunk driving accidents on it (thanks to knockers - or drunk soldiers from fort knox).

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

um, ok?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

more importantly -- GE CARS SUCK THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T SELL AND EVEN A GOOD JOHN MELLENCAMP SONG CAN'T CHANGE THAT UNCOMFORTABLE FACT.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

and MOTHERFUCK THE WHOLE BOOMER ANGLE -- i mean, what a PERFECT example of why GM is in the toilet. pitch shitty cars via a shitty song to a demographic that won't buy 'em anyway and piss off other demographics who dislike GM, john mellencamp, boomers, AND the fact that this crap is being aired endlessly during football game breaks.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

you probably buy salsa made in NEW YORK CITY?!?!?!?!? too you effete northeastern latte liberal drivin' a volvo.

(that goes to eisbar too)

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

(tho yeah i hardly understand their "let's pitch this to the working man" angle since, like, you'd think they'd know american manufacturing is in the shitter, ain't no workin' men left!)

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

heartlanders think that GM cars stink, too. it ain't just us snotty noreasters that ain't buying that shit anymore YO.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, most ppl I know with needs for trucks are buying Jap trucks, stence, take your Working Class Hero elsewhere.

Also, there is no such thing as a good John Mellencamp song, sorry dudes. Stop being lame.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

whatever allyzay, "pink houses" rulez.

my cousin doug works at the toyota plant in georgetown, kentucky.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

*applauds*

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

sayin'!

my dad's got a toyota tundra pickup, it drives pretty well.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think Tom's dad has a Honda or something but fuck if I know for real, I don't pay attention very well.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah my family switched from buying only Chrysler/Dodge/Jeeps to buying only Hondas around 2002-2003. I feel lame that they did this AFTER I was out on my own, I could have inherited a much better secondhand vehicle.

It's amazing to me how much ground the big three have given up on the truck front. It's like they were totally unprepared for Japan to bring highly competitive models to one of their core markets. You only had a decade and a half, Detroit.

― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

i used to drive a honda civic, it was pretty quality.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

dudes I grew up in Michigan and the other commerical is correct- "I've got to get up early, I've got to be on time". FYI

― lk (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

my second car was a honda accord -- it was great! until it got rear-ended in an accident and became a honda accord-ian.

friends of mine who were into/needed trucks tended to prefer dodge ram trucks to any other make, domestic or foreign. that was back in the late 90s, though.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

my second car was a honda accord -- it was great! until it got rear-ended in an accident and became a honda accord-ian.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Inheriting your richy rich parents' vehicles makes you gay, communist, AND unamerican, just FYI. Get out of our country.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/Jesus%20in%20White%20Cowboy%20Hat-3.gif

― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

i've only ever had one car that was mine. now i live in communist no-carsville.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

but the american jesus is, like, john galt and not john lennon!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I've never had a car :D

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

even in arizona? how did you get around?!?

god help me, i'll say something nice about NYC and diss NJ -- it's nice not to have a car, and to not need one!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I WAS BARELY OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE WHEN I MOVED BACK TO NYC AND I'M APPARENTLY THE ONLY ILXOR WHOSE PARENTS WEREN'T GONNA GIVE ME A CAR ;_;

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

i still miss having a car when going to the grocery store, but that's why i joined i-go.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

my gf got 10k in insurance for her '99 honda civic (56k miles) when it was rear ended back in july.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

yeah we do zipcar and that works pretty well, I mean you can even take it for days to road trip if you want

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

the only problem with it is there are too many people who've joined in the past year in chicago, membership is up by like 75% from last year and the supply of cars can't keep up. particularly in my neighborhood. i had to take a bus to get to one so i could go grocery shopping on sunday, plus THAT car was only available for an hour so i had to haul ass doing it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I WAS BARELY OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE WHEN I MOVED BACK TO NYC AND I'M APPARENTLY THE ONLY ILXOR WHOSE PARENTS WEREN'T GONNA GIVE ME A CAR ;_;

POBRECITO!

(i've had to buy all of my own cars that i've owned thusfar, too -- so it's hardly ALL ILXors. though my folks have told me that i can have their old honda if i really need a car.)

zipcar kicks ass, i agree!!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Mods change this thread to be about Car Sharing in Hondaz and not anymore about Jon Cougar Williamsburg songs anymore plz

― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, my parents shared a fucking car, they sure as hell weren't going to buy me one. they did, technically, buy my younger sister a car when she was in college. they thought it was a loan but my sister was of the mind that it's only a loan if you intend to pay it back.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

well, to be truthful my parents DID spring for the down payment on my third car (which replaced the honda that got accord-ianized). but only b/c it was a (then) brand-new mazda protege (the first 2 were used) and i had to make the remaining payments out of my own funds.

MAZDA v. HONDA FITE, anyone? i miss that car.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

my sister kind of did that to my parents too, just claimed one of their cars. I never understood how that even worked. It wasn't even like she was paying for the maintenance on it, she'd just announce "Time to get xyz fixed!" and expect them to do it even though she basically stole it and took it elsewhere. WTF.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

i had an '83 mazda gl that went through more oil than gas. i bought it in december of '92 for $400 and hoped it would last until the following spring. it last 18 months, that car was indominable. no heat, bad transmission, developed a VIOLENT shake at 50 mph that went away at 60 (top speed was also around 64 due to bad tranny), had cooling problems and a leaky head gasket that oozed oil so much that i always kept a case in the trunk.

i loved that car.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

i currently drive a 1994 oldsmobile that makes this weird noise all the time, occasionally stalls when idling at stoplights, is a little testy when i accelerate too quickly, etc. it's actually fine on the freeways, but in stop and go traffic it's sounds like death.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

actually, my mazda was an '81, when i got rid of it i bought an '83 cutlass. the cutload. the gutless cutlass. literally owned by a little old lady before me, i bought it from her son when she died. all the grandma options like DRUM FUCKING BRAKES and an am only radio. brakes used to lock up all the time on wet pavement, i can remember driving to class one day and skidding right past my exit on the highway. next exit was like 5 miles away so i said fuck it and drove to the beach instead and burned some manna on a snowy beach.

i did not dig the cutlass as much as the mazda or as much as it's replacement, the red menace (93 golf wolfsburg edition).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

i also refuse to wash my car

― gear (gear), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

my honda civic was a graduamation from college present.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

sponsor of "sunday night football"

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 6 November 2006 01:19 (nineteen years ago)

i drive a honda accord now, i miss my ford ranger even if it was a pussy pickup and kinda miss my monte carlo i totaled, it had some get up and go. i drove a pontiac firebird t-top in high school, black/dark grey w/ electric blue flames. if i can find a pic i might scan it, had some good times in that car.

― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 6 November 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

the frequency of this piece of shit commercial is truly astounding! I've never seen anything like it! In like 4 weeks John Cougar has burned up all the goodwill I've held toward him built up over 2 decades!

I didn't know you had a Ranger jb, so did I. And I miss mine as well. Got rid of it 4 years ago and haven't had a vehicle since. I don't miss *driving* or certainly not car-ownership per se, just that damn truck. And yeah it is a pussy truck but hey, I wasn't gonna drive around in an F-150, thats a little too much truck for me.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 6 November 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

The nice thing is knowing that the ad only runs for the first quarter of each sunday night game. If you can make it through that first thirty minutes of sheer exploitative non-sequitur nu-country hell it's smooth sailing for the rest of the broadcast.

How about that new Dodge Nitro ad where it falls through the hollow core of the earth and winds up in China, with inexplicable easter island statue gnomes all mining in the fushigino depths or whatever?

― FACTS: I'M A WAITER (TOMBOT), Monday, 6 November 2006 05:21 (nineteen years ago)

I miss the F-150 I bought from my grandfather for $500 - 180k, no heat, no air, routinely broken, questionable breaks, my CD player got stolen twice. But it had a V8 and I truly did not give a shit what happened in, on or around that thing.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 6 November 2006 06:13 (nineteen years ago)

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our country > man law

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

if i see just one of those made-up signs in the stands before the nfl season is over, i'm gonna go beserk.

xpost blount, u rule

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Blount's a fucking hippie - of course he's going to go w/ the Cougar!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

dude the cougar played with the gizmos and mx-80 back in the day in bloomington. he's a punk!

not in the triple h sense, tho.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

they BOTH suck but Man Laws isn't some kind of socialist realism done right statey nonsense. And it is pretty funny when Jimmy Johnson says "Duh-Umb"

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

agreed, jimmy johnson is pretty cool in the spot.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind the man-law spots. Though I was disappointed that they overruled fruit in beer :'"(

― lk (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the fruit in beer one at all.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think there was a movement afoot to allow it at first but it was voted down after some discussion. sucks

― lk (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

there has to be a third way

― lk (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

that fruit in beer ruling's some bullshit w/out clauses also oscar de la hoya on the board for man laws? plz. also that cougar tune could be worse and it has that one lil byrds touch at the end that's alright and i hear that ad alot less on the radio than man law bulletins plus reallife jackasses invoking man law like 'no woman speaker of the house - man law!' cuz they have to borrow their sense of humor and sense of masculinity from a beer ad. plus seriously looking at burt reynolds gnarled maw much less pleasant than katrina/9-11/kennedy assasination footage.

― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

the fruit in beer is a ridiculous ruling. Fruit could only improve Miller Lite anyway. The Cougar tune is one of the worst songs I've ever had to sit through repeatedly. But, I don't listen to the radio (impossible to get signal in any apt I've lived in + when in car, have XM radio) and I have never, ever heard anyone invoke the man law joke in real life thankfully so perhaps it makes those ads less irritating.

I seem to recall them having better people on the Man Laws board last season.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

triple h knows all about fruit, being one.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Through some cosmic coincidence, every time I see a Man Law advert the volume on the TV is off.

xpost hstencil man back off on HHH man! Best WWE heel of the past whatever.

― c('°c) (Leee), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

if people invoke man-law in real life then not ever leaving the house has been a very good decision on my part

― lk (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

triple h ain't fit to carry ric flair's jock.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

everytime i see man law i imagine that's how we got stuck in this stupid war, bush and co sitting around getting drunk and pretending they're hot shit.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

doesn't someone give another dude a wet willie in one of those ads? that's a little too close to giving a dude a butt blast for me.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

'our country' sucks but it's no worse and probably better than some faux-populist shit that's aired in other beer/car ads over the years. better that then 'god bless the u.s.a.'

― gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

The wet willie is attempted, but DENIED. The beertap, however, is successful.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that commercial is about five minutes away from turning into something akin to that east-coast rapper slash fiction piece someone posted on ILM ages ago.

― gear (gear), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

fruit in beer IS pretty girly, truth be told.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

i've had it with your no-fruit-in-beer nanny state

― lk (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

wait, is the fruit lemons/limes or like apples and shit?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

fuck anyone who can't get with "b lock"! at least I don't have any unholy manlaw jingles echoing through my head when I try to go to sleep every night.

::toasts a shirtless triple h::

― (9ò_ó)-o Q(^.^Q) (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 9 November 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

lemons and limes and oranges, the usual stuff. Though like I said ANY fruit would improve a Miller Lite.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Thursday, 9 November 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

okay i'm trying to decide this, since i'm going to buy a car in the middle of january: should i go with the honda civic 2dr coupe, LX trim level, or the scion 2dr coupe? they're both in the same price range, from what i can tell.

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 05:52 (nineteen years ago)

That Scion is a sweet looking ride, sportier than the Civic... but I have no idea how roomy the interior is or anything.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

hmm the scion gets 31 mpg highway, the civic gets 40.

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

dude what year is the civic?

― get yr coat luv uve jes bin pulld (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

actually just get the civic either way.

― get yr coat luv uve jes bin pulld (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 07:01 (nineteen years ago)

2007 civic..yeah i'll get that.

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 07:39 (nineteen years ago)

When in doubt, get a Honda or a Toyota. In the recent car reliability rankings, Honda and Toyota were all over the top of the rankings.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, I really love my Volvo sedan. :D

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

What the hell do I know? I drive a Neon.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

The "fruit in beer" spot rings lame because it's so obviously a targeted attack at the increasing popularity of Corona.

The rest of the Man Law ads are enjoyable when you can concentrate on the meticulously edited mugging, but they suffer from a couple of systemic failures:

1. No matter what, at least one of the cast members will offend you by their very presence.
2. No matter what, at least one of the cast members with a speaking role will be somebody you don't recognize at all, and whatever the joke is supposed to be won't materialize.

I saw one of the mascots Sunday hoisting up the "B - LOCK" sign in the end zone on an FG.

Man Law > Our Country.

― LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

All of the above > the dancing fox mecha (except when they gave it the Jack O' Lantron head)

― LISTEN U TURBO CROUTON (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

All of the above > dancing fox mecha > Jillian Barbierie

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Where the hell are you seeing The Other JB?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'm just saying, in terms of Fox dancing retard mascots, the robot is clearly ahead in the race.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

No winners there.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

No matter what, at least one of the cast members with a speaking role will be somebody you don't recognize at all, and whatever the joke is supposed to be won't materialize.

When the spots came out I didn't know who any of those dudes were except for Burt and the Bus.

since then I figured out who the amputee was, only because they had to tell us in a later spot (must have got a lot of questions about it.) also noticed that he seems to be gone from the table now (replaced by JJ?) still don't know who any of the otehr dudes are.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Corona blows, and it is true that a lime will improve a Miller Lite.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Corona is OK but way overpriced. NAFTA has failed us is this case.

The Man_Law system seems to be a strong monarchy (Burt Reynolds) with a weak Parliament (everybody else) much akin to England before the Civil War. It will be interesting to see if a Cromwell emerges.

― lk (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

bros drive Toyotas, 'necks drive American

― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

broyota

― get yr coat luv uve jes bin pulld (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Corona is OK but way overpriced. NAFTA has failed us is this case.

i'm pertty sure corona is bottled in america, for the american market.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure corona is terrible, dudes.

― Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

really? I thought it was mexican. America has failed us once again.

― lk (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

most "imports" are actually just bottled in the states.

― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

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