i humbly submit a vote for jon gruden
(inspired by billicktalk in another thread)
― cankles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)
romeo crennel.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)
DEREK ANDERSON REALLY?
how about people you know irl that are better quarterbacks than derek anderson?
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)
Art Shell would've been a shoo-in. :/
I'll go with Tom Coughlin. On top of being a mediocre in-game coach, all his players hate him.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
TOM COUGHLIN HE IS A HORRIBLE PERSON I HATE HIM HE LOOKS CONFUSED, 94/7 CONFUSED CONFUSED CONFUSED IF THE GIANTS WERE THE YANKEES STEINBRENNER WOULD'VE HAD HIM KILLED BY NOW
;_;
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)
ahahahaha "94/7"
also otm; his face makes me tired
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)
it's really a toss-up between Billick and Gruden right now IMO. Del Rio's up there for wasting his talent with incredibly inconsistent game plans. Andy Reid's clock management is horrendously bad but at least his team doesn't consistently suck harder than expectations. We'll see about Norv Turner.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)
i wish denny green coached the giants instead
tom are you like just not acknowledging coughlin's existence right now?
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)
Coughlin's awful but I don't think he'd be making the kind of decisions Billick made last night at the end of the game. He's mad ebad one but I don't think he'd be having a backup air it out at first and goal with time on the clock and the game on the line.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)
Gruden did some really stupid shit on Sunday too, running the ball when he needed to be getting it out of bounds on pass plays. FOOTBALL ARITHMETIC.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)
ok so what you're saying is that one bad game decision <<<<<<<<<<<<< an entire career of alienating your own players and not trying to enforce any kind of respect system whatsoever??
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)
I'm saying I'll take an old tired looking dickhead who sucks at life over a couple of guys who drive good teams into the ground with retarded game management
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)
jon gruden = an entire career of making sure everyone knows your super bowl win was a complete accident engineered by tony dungy
are you seriously claiming that billick has driven the ravens into the ground???
gruden is a person that i don't believe exists so i'm not actually going to talk about him
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)
anyone who takes steve mcnair+jamal lewis+derrick mason+mark clayton to the second round of the playoffs is still a good coach, sorry.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ otm!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)
I just don't think McNair actually sucks as bad as he looks out there. I think the play calling is crap and I think they abused the shit out of a rookie left tackle last night. I think the Ravens need a real OC.
NYFGwise right now actually I'm more aggravated at the fact that we have no depth chart, which is more Jerry Reese's fault than Coughlin's. Coughlin didn't do anything wrong on Sunday night besides the part where he had to rely on a bad DC who had to rely on a bunch of amateur linebackers.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
Oh and walk around looking like hubert j. farnsworth
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)
im not mad at the idea of coughlin being the worst coach in the nfl (especially considering he drove away one of the top 5 rbs of this decade), but romeo crennel is an unmitigated disaster.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.dvdinfo.be/images/artikels/20-4.jpg Tom Coughlin challenges a call by the line judge
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)
THE BROWNS ARE RESIGNING http://umsis.miami.edu/~kcray/quarterback%20crush%20page_files/image008.jpg
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)
^^^^^^^^homie 4 lyfe
http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/professor-hubert-farnsworth-3996.jpg Tom Coughlin trying to find out what down it is
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)
I don't think Crennel has had a good enough team to be accurately judged yet, but he certainly has done nothing with the terrible team he's been given.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)
billick seems to do some things pretty well but he sure has been riding that SB good will for a long time, plus the defense saving his ass year in and year out etc
not just that, but HE PLAYED HIS OLD FUCKING TEAM IN THE SUPERBOWL, OF COURSE THEY WON. i really can't believe the 2002 season happened in retrospect, it's like some crazy parallel universe Earth 2 shit, a world where the Bucs and Raiders (a) the bucs wtf b) PIRATES!) are superbowl teams, rich gannon is an MVP, and the coach of the winning team is gifted with the mathematic improbability of inheriting an all-time great defense AND facing the team he left the year before, the one THAT STILL RAN THE OFFENSE HE DESIGNED ENTIRELY BY HIMSELF AND THAT USED THE EXACT SAME TERMINOLOGY, WITH ALL THE SAME PLAYERS WHOSE TENDENCIES HE KNEW LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND.
del rio is pretty amazingly bad too for a whole host of reasons - inconsistent team that gets up for tough opponents but folds for the texans and titans, horrible game planning and clock management, and the brutal mishandling of the entire qb sitch. reid's clock management is somehow as bad as ever, but he's so good at everything else that it pretty much evens out.
― cankles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)
i dont know why but i don't think coughlin is that bad anymore. he's still made a lot of fuckups but note that the NYG were actually pretty cohesive in the second half last year - i remember hearing about how he basically had a sit down with the whole team so they could air grievances and he try to mend some fences. idk if it's still like that but there was a lot less dissent in the media after that point. also injuries really were killing the giants last year and they made the playoffs anyway. idk, i'm just saying that he has some good stuff along with the bad, whereas the grudens and whatnot literally have nothing at all to offer~~
chasing tiki off was pretty bad but otoh fuck tiki.
― cankles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)
otoh fuck tiki was chairman of the UN for a while I think
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)
i doubt he's actually the worse, but on the del rio tip, marvin lewis is only 35-29 w/ the bengals in 4 years + all the arrests, etc. etc.
― Jordan Sargent, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)
hall of fame xpost.
ilu Tombot!
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)
lololo
tiki-escalade-commercial.jpg
― cankles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)
yeah but marvin lewis actually knows wtf he's doing. i'm not really going off records (so 2 speak), del rio's just a friggin meathead.
as i understand it, the high number of bengals arrests is an example of their draft strategy biting them in the ass. the cycle of suck Cinci was in, and the one that most losing teams get stuck in (LOSER'S CURSE!), was this thing where they have a high draft pick every year and so they always end up with a new star quality player to compliment their crew of scrubs, and the star players always move on as soon as they can (cf takeo spikes, corey dillon). so ML's draft plan for a while was basically to just go best player available in that first round or two, and then spend the majority of their scouting resources on the lower round guys - they still end up with talented players, but a lot of them slid to those lower rounds because of character issues.
this is kinda patronizing as theories go but i wonder if he envisioned being a mentor to all the troubled youths he was collecting ala dungy, mb counting on that wisened-black-father-figure dynamic to keep them in line (cf. his relationship w/ocho)
― cankles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)
no one drove off tiki, tiki's a big blousy girl
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 11 September 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)
I think the Raven's offensive line has really slipped. McNair was getting clobbered every time he went back to pass.
The thing about Tom Coughlin is that people are forgetting how out of control the Giants got to be that last year with Jim Fassel. Coughlin is a dick and a bad head coach, but the Giants are filled with a bunch of cry babies. The smartest thing NY could have done is let freakin' Strahan just sit. He was a good player but man what a pain in the ass. If I was their GM, the first two guys out the door would be Strahan and Shockey.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)
Del Rio going w/ the suit this year, tho, has to give him some bonus points ?
― David R., Tuesday, 11 September 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)
no cuz his suit is shittier than nolan's, plus nolan really WEARS his, del rio just looks like a linebacker in a suit (which he is)
― cankles, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)