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i'm pretty sure i didnt get a single pick right this last weekend~~

ps. randy

CLE @ NE - ne
SEA @ PIT - pit
CAR @ NO - no
DET @ WAS - was
NYJ @ NYG - nyg
MIA @ HOU - mia
ATL @ TEN - atl
JAC @ KC - kc
ARI @ STL - ari
TB @ IND - ind
SD @ DEN - who cares
BAL @ SF - balls
CHI @ GB - gb
DAL @ BUF - buffalols, romo openly weeps at end of game

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago)

wait, who's Randy?

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 11:14 (seventeen years ago)

rnady maouse

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:13 (seventeen years ago)

there was not enough domination in that game last nite. are the pats losing their gusto for pounding on shitty teams?

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i would've liekd to ahve seen more stepping-on-throats. still, they did drive a wedge between carson and chad so that is pretty kewl!

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago)

now that half of Indy's roster is injured/dead and pitt's lost their first game, i'm ready to buy in 100%. (watch them lose next week now)

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago)

rndoy 4 mvp btw

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 12:49 (seventeen years ago)

yes moss is playing out of his miiiind right now - that jump over the defender's shoulder td catch was so bonkers.

kinda sad in comparison to see ocho cinco dropping balls left and right.

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:00 (seventeen years ago)

real talk, this is as excited as i've been about football since 2002 and vick's overtime run against the vikings, or the 03 SB win (04 felt kinda ho-hum)

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

ocho was weird like that last year too, having that insane 3 or 4 game stretch where he was like the god of ballcatching, but then a bunch of games with bad drops and inconsistent play. kinda sums up the bengals in general i guess~

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago)

i wonder why Randall Gay doesn't go by Randy.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

The only good thing about Brady-to-Moss is that they'll win so many games, they'll be able to take off the last three regular season match-ups and my dominating fantasy football opponents will lose.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

a friend and I were discussign this last night, and if the Pats reach 13-0 i guarantee the second string will come out. Belichick is only interested in rings, not records. he's the Mr. T of super bowl jewelry.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

CLE @ NE - ne
SEA @ PIT - pit
CAR @ NO - no
DET @ WAS - was
NYJ @ NYG - nyg
MIA @ HOU - Hou
ATL @ TEN - Tn
JAC @ KC - kc
ARI @ STL - ari
TB @ IND - ind
SD @ DEN - DENVER DO U C
BAL @ SF - SF
CHI @ GB - GB
DAL @ BUF - DALLAS U MAD

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago)

a friend and I were discussign this last night, and if the Pats reach 13-0 i guarantee the second string will come out. Belichick is only interested in rings, not records. he's the Mr. T of super bowl jewelry.

totally disagree. belichick is looking like he wants to destroy the league this year (see going for it on 4th down w/the game already in hand v chargers). 18-0 is like 1mx better than the plain old super bowl and 1000% worth the risk to go down as THE GREATEST TEAM EVAR!!!!

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

uh 19-0

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:01 (seventeen years ago)

Did you see the map last night where they polled the nation on who would win between Cincy and NE? THEY EVEN MADE A REFERENCE TO THE 1972 ELECTORAL MAP.

Obviously, Belichick is filming me.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)

you guys are forgetting something - the brownz

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

poland

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 15:24 (seventeen years ago)

rambo!

j.q higgins, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

chromeo crennel

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago)

i don't know how anyone can like the pats after enduring kornheiser's boner for them last night. it took 3 quarters for them to acknowledge there was another team on the field.

bnw, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

this is not the pats fault.

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

Cincy were the supporting cast in that game. they were behind after about 2 minutes and did little worthy of report for the rest of the game. the Bengals players who would typically stand out in a game were anonymous. dude might be a gigantic tool with a man crush on Brady, but he can only report what's on the field.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago)

kornheiser must go tho agreed. his whole jokey pop-culture references schitk is completely unacceptable.

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago)

i watched it on mute.

browns game could actually be interesting - is it first time browns have played pats since romeo took over? homeboy can put a defensive gameplan together~

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

kornheiser's funny every now and then when he actually relaxes and just bullshits a little instead of being in that mode where he has to constantly yak and try to be entertaining in order to justify his presence. mostly he is horrific tho, ya~

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago)

yeah maybe tho im thinking the uh talent gap might be a bit much to overcome - and im sure belichick is amped to fuck wit his old employee's hed xp

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

jokey pop-culture references schitk

this is definitely what irritates me the most. he mentioned some band last night...i wish i could remember. anyway, i wanted to throw something at the screen

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:27 (seventeen years ago)

yeah espn was all we need someone to appeal to the irreverent myspace generation - oh i know lets get this 60 y/o weirdo

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:28 (seventeen years ago)

i am so excited i am shaking like jesse spano, jho will u hold my hand

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago)

roberto were you thinking of when they were playing springsteen w/brady on screen and he said "that guy is THE BOSS of the nfl"? cause that was preeettty stupid.

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

yah dont worry canky i got u

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago)

clearly the following WILL occur!!~

CLE @ NE - ne
SEA @ PIT - sea
CAR @ NO - car
DET @ WAS - det
NYJ @ NYG - nyg
MIA @ HOU - mia
ATL @ TEN - ten
JAC @ KC - jax
ARI @ STL - ari
TB @ IND - ind
SD @ DEN - den i suppose
BAL @ SF - sf
CHI @ GB - CHI!
DAL @ BUF - DAL

omar little, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not making my picks this week until at least tomorrow when the DVOA comes out. I am pretty stoked about the first week of opponent adjusted nfl dungeon master's screen but am only excited enough to be kind of magic missile about it not pill addicted SBTB strippers about it

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:38 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i am super curious abt the opponent adjusted rankings. no way is the TB defense really 3rd best

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

good sign for the bears: the cubs are playing in the NLDS that same day so no one will notice when my prediction is proven rong and farv throws for 5 tds and runs for another 2.

omar little, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago)

RANDY RHODES

CLE @ NE - ne
SEA @ PIT - pit
CAR @ NO - no
DET @ WAS - det!
NYJ @ NYG - nyg
MIA @ HOU - hou!
ATL @ TEN - ten!
JAC @ KC - kc
ARI @ STL - ari
TB @ IND - ind
SD @ DEN - sd!
BAL @ SF - bal!
CHI @ GB - gb
DAL @ BUF - dal

no arrows!

hstencil, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

well also the opponent adjusted rankings should help make the point that new england is crushing loser ass butt teams so far (although yes 25% of each of those teams' stats have been from getting their loser ass butt crushed by the pats)

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

crushing losers is meaningful -its waht good teams do - especially when its by 25ppg

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:13 (seventeen years ago)

id be more suspicious of indy barely beating two mediocre teams

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago)

NE supposedly had a tough opening schedule - their main divisional rivals on the road, and then two supposed playoff contenders in the next three. there's no doubt that they've been lucky with the way certain teams have fallen off this season, but you can't argue with the consistency in scoring and not conceding points. you can probably play with statistics until you make the Pats look like the worst team in the league, but that won't make it so.

the Browns game is a horrible banana skin for them. it's one of thoe situations where you get no credit for the win, but you get pilloried if you lose. and the up-and-down way Cleveland have been playing so far - anythign could happen. the Cowboys game is obviously the one people are looking forward to as being the first 'proper' test, but however well Romo is playing, if the Pats bring their game like they have done consistently so far this season, i don't know why anyone thinks Dallas will be any competition for them.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

FO has this whole thing about how truly great teams beat lesser teams decisively, like "stomps" versus "guts"

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago)

i buy into this theory depending on how it applies to my favorite/least favorite teams at that particular moment~

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

i'm not worried about HOW indy wins anything, since they proved me to be a charlatan and a jackass last year with my constant chicken littling abt their defense. but 20 of their starters are suddenly, like, dead. that's kind of a big deal (snorg.jpg)

cankles, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

to your credit their d stepping up like that in the playoffs was pretty much the strangest thing thats ever happened in the nfl

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

You guys, it's not worth creating a "Kickass Media" thread for, so I'm just going to use this thread to say how much I'm enjoying Keyshawn at E$PN. No Irvin screaming, no Sharpe speech impediment, just quiet confidence and decent analysis. (Granted, I haven't seen every minute he's been on the air.)

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

ok you two we'll give you jobs but... you have to work together. and bill you have to wear one of keyshawn's suits ok.

jhøshea, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago)

anyone else think cowher is weird during analysis, like he's about to crack up laughing or punch someone? boomer is tempting fate with him, i tells ya! lol @ his comment to shannon sharpe re: griese: "when was the last time the guy played? i think his last completion was to you, LOL!"

omar little, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

i am so excited i am shaking like jesse spano

ilu Ade!

horseshoe, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

incompletion!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:51 (seventeen years ago)

btw i am asking about the onside kick.

gr8080, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:52 (seventeen years ago)

oh, dallas missed the 2-pt conversion, but then had a good onside kick.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:53 (seventeen years ago)

but it didnt look like they caught it... was it ruled interference and then challenged by buffalo and then upheld?

gr8080, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:54 (seventeen years ago)

THROW ANOTHER PICK TONY

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago)

the onside kick? Hurd touched it, sending the ball into play and then it was recovered by Dallas at the Buffalo 47.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:55 (seventeen years ago)

O HOLY SHIT....THE CURSE OF SHANAHAN STRIKES AGAIN!!!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago)

LOL shanahan'd

rogermexico., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago)

oh ok thanks sorry i was watching baseball

gr8080, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:56 (seventeen years ago)

fuckin shanahand job (want the bills to win but that shit is lame)

bnw, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

I CANNOT BELIEVE THE COWBOYS ACTUALLY WON!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

oh well

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

ugh I want to die

horseshoe, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

FUUUUUUUUUCK

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

bilolls

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit what a weird game

gr8080, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago)

rogermexico? you ok?

horseshoe, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago)

Is Jerry Jones married to Barbara Eden? I thought I just saw her up in the box with Jones and Michael Irvin.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago)

y'know, now's probably not the time to point this out, but three runs up the gut on that last Buffalo possession would have made all of the tomfoolery of the last 30 seconds moot.

also this is the worst thing that has ever happened.

rogermexico., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago)

I hate the Cowboys but fuck the Bills for that time out.

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

FFCK YU FOTBBAL GODS

rogermexico., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

also, Bills fans all look kinda rough. like they transplanted the Florida panhandle to upstate NY rough

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:00 (seventeen years ago)

really wish Folk had grabbed his crotch a couple of times while pointing to Juaron

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

lol @ the panhandle (it's true!)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

why can't the Bills just lose the damn game in the first quarter so all my hair doesn't go gray?

xpost dude, Buffalo is a dying town

horseshoe, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:01 (seventeen years ago)

Urban Meyer did the same thing with the time-out against Auburn the other day.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:02 (seventeen years ago)

bnw otm about the Shanahan shit. fat lot of good it did Jauron. maybe if he learned something about how to call offensive plays he wouldn't need that douchery.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:02 (seventeen years ago)

also, lol @ yankees.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:02 (seventeen years ago)

i dont get it. doesnt it just give the kicker a "practice" kick...seems like it could only help....

ryan, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, it's only got a 50% success rate thus far.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:33 (seventeen years ago)

Best game I've seen this season; who woulda thunk it?

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:34 (seventeen years ago)

I've never kicked an actual field goal, but I would assume that 50+ yarders take some energy - maybe the hope is that a kicker won't have enough ooomph to get it through the uprights?

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago)

Best game I've seen this season; who woulda thunk it?

-- forksclovetofu, Tuesday, October 9, 2007 4:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

ANYONE BUT YOU, APPARENTLY

hstencil, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 07:02 (seventeen years ago)

it's called icing the kicker, and i don't get all the animosity - it's a widely used tactic and it aint against the rules or nothin!

cankles, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 11:49 (seventeen years ago)

37-38

Don't call it a comeback...

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

poor old Buffalo. incredible performance from that makeshift defense, but totally let down by unproductive offense, never more so than on that mismanaged final drive. i was hugely impressed by how Romo kept his head at the end there to get them in kick range, despite having the worst game of his career up to that point; and fair play to that kicker dude for beating his PB (twice) for the game winning FG. but still, balls, and fuck the Cowboys.

13-1 for me! fuck you, too, Jaguars. in my head Jax are much worse than they actually play, but i'm pretty sure i'm right and reality is wrong.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

it's called icing the kicker, and i don't get all the animosity - it's a widely used tactic and it aint against the rules or nothin!

-- cankles, Tuesday, October 9, 2007 6:49 AM (Tuesday, October 9, 2007 6:49 AM) Bookmark Link

yeah, i don't get it either, i've seen it used for at least 25 years and had never seen it work until this year. the shannahan one was kind of dubious because it was called so late that the snap occurred and a kick was attempted which seems to me to border on unsportsmanlike conduct but whatever.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

ANYONE BUT YOU, APPARENTLY

ILNFL pix 'em! composite predictions:
DAL @ BUF - DAL(92%)

'Cept for you stencil, I don't think anyone really saw this as an interesting game; smelled like a blowout.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

called so late that the snap occurred and a kick was attempted which seems to me to border on unsportsmanlike conduct

this is what i'm uncomfortable with, too. icing the kicker is one thing, but this new thing of timing it so the snap occurs anyway and they have to re-kick is way l-l-lame. how you gonna fix it, though? i say let a snapped play go unless either team has clearly already reacted to the timeout call.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago)

how you gonna fix it, though? i say let a snapped play go unless either team has clearly already reacted to the timeout call.

yeah, i mentioned this elsewhere, all it would take is one week where the ref says the coach didn't call a timeout and the play stands and the problem would take care of itself.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago)

yes, the animosity is because it was called right at the moment of snapping the ball - which really makes it questionable to me about when it was called. Not like there's anyway to verify that the center's hands hadn't started moving as Shanahan/Juaron/etc. called the time-out.

milo z, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:25 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, i say treat it more like a baseball umpire treats a timeout request from a batter. once he steps out of the box and time isn't granted he rarely waits until the last second again.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago)

eh, it happened in the falcons-steelers game last year too. that one was funny because the dude actually missed the kick-that-didnt-count and then proceeded to knock in the next one. i guarantee you that nobody around the league considers it 'cheating' or anything. it's just somethin' u do~~

cankles, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

yeah but is it "sportsmanlike conduct"?

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago)

lol who gives a fuck

cankles, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

if the Pats lost a game* because they missed a FG they already kicked then i'd sure give a fuck.

*clearly a wildly hypothetical situation

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:49 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.latexmaskcentral.com/images/Archives/Kuato_3100thumb.jpg

you've got to go with your gut, and my gut says no.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

All the Bills had to do was guard the out-of-bounds lines to make sure the clock ran out. On the third to last play of the game the Cowboys' receiver was completely wide open, standing alone next to the line. That was a total defensive breakdown, and the Bills should be embarrassed. I don't care how beat up their defense is, that was pathetic. There wasn't a Bills defender within 10 yards of that guy, as far as I could tell.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

god to have cable. I read a recap of the game and still can't get my head around what happened.

Timeouts: eh, just make the timeout on a kick only callable with more than 5 on the play clock. Forcing a team to kick two winning field goals at the end of a game is shanahan level douchery and I for one will stand for it.

Or how's this- WREST CONTROL OF THE GAME FROM THE CONTROL FREAK HEAD COACHES AND DON'T ALLOW THEM TO CALL TIMEOUTS AT ALL. GOD THE NFL

brownie, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

*not stand for it

brownie, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago)


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