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Bills seeking permission to play home game in Toronto

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- The Buffalo Bills on Thursday's announced they are seeking approval to play a preseason and at least one regular-season game in Toronto as part of the franchise's attempt to expand its market base beyond western New York.

"The team hopes to capitalize on the increasing interest of fans in the Canadian market by playing a regular-season game in Toronto," the Bills announced in a release.

The Bills hope to play a preseason game at Toronto next summer, with plans to play a regular-season game as early as 2009. The games would be played at Rogers Center, a downtown stadium with a retractable roof that serves as home to baseball's Blue Jays and the Canadian Football League Argonauts.

The Bills require both county and state approval to play "home games" outside of Ralph Wilson Stadium as a condition of their lease, which runs through 2012. The lease requires the team to play half its preseason and all regular-season home games at the Orchard Park facility.

The team began the process by sending a letter of request to Erie County on Wednesday.

The Bills would also need approval from the NFL, considered a formality with the league already scheduling games in international markets. In two weeks, Miami and the New York Giants will play at London's Wembley Stadium in the first NFL game outside North America. In 2005, Arizona and San Francisco played in Mexico City in the first regular-season game outside the United States.

Toronto is the next logical choice as part of the Bills' expansion plans. Canada's largest metropolitan center is a 90-mile drive from Buffalo, boasts a large corporate base that can translate into additional marketing revenue, and the team also draws an average of 15,000 Canadian fans to its home games.

The Bills also consider this a chance to lure Toronto companies to purchase corporate suites at Ralph Wilson Stadium. The Bills currently have three suites unsold and, next season, will unveil new prime suites as part of a plan to relocate the existing press box.

The Bills stressed the games at Toronto are part of their regionalization plans and should not be considered a first step for the franchise's relocation. The Bills noted the success they've enjoyed since moving their training camp in 2000 to Rochester, where they've taken advantage of the city's corporate base.

Bills owner Ralph Wilson, who turned 89 on Wednesday, has maintained he has no intention of selling or relocating the franchise. The team's future remains unclear because Wilson has no plans to keep the franchise in his family once he dies, leaving the door open for a new owner to move the team.

Toronto newspapers have published stories speculating whether the city can be a viable NFL market, and most often mention the Bills as a prime candidate.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

wtf happen to skydome

jhøshea, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

Bills Browns owner Ralph Wilson Art Modell, who turned 89 on Wednesday, has maintained he has no intention of selling or relocating the franchise.

brownie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

rogers centre is skydome. re-branded for extra $$$.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

skydome was a fun name rip

jhøshea, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Guys we can't let this happen. If the Bills move then our position on Lake Erie will become untenable and a rust belt domino effect could occur that will shake the foundations of our democracy. San Antonio Browns? Mexico City Lions? London Bears?

http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/images/940.jpg

brownie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

the city of detroit is collectively saying "that's ok with us".

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

San Antonio Browns?

Careful, our mayor might read this and get some ideas (lol football will never come here).

m bison, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

but the riverwalk

jhøshea, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

RIVERWALK = FOOTBALL MAGNET ;_;

brownie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm having a bad week and am probably just overtired and will almost certainly be really embarrassed I posted this later, but I'm tearing up. in the library, for fuck's sake what's wrong with me.

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

aww get some rest ok

jhøshea, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

thanks, man. IT'S LIKE THE SUPER BOWL XXV FIELD GOAL MISS ALL OVER AGAIN.

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

dang, i tried to warn you.

guess who has an interview at a certain university on the south side tomorrow?

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

JP Losman?

brownie, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

close. joe ferguson.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

omg Kev!!!! awesome, congratulations!!!

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

and good luck!

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

nothing to congratulate me on yet. but thanks in advance!!

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

gratzi.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

if you get all this jobs in hyde park you and I and Dan should go to Jimmy's in the middle of the day and drink beerz. on the regular.

horseshoe, Thursday, 18 October 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

horse shoe dont read this

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/opinion/sunday/sex-harassment-what-on-earth-is-that.html

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

fuck the times for publishing that hack for real

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:43 (fourteen years ago)

i told you not to read it

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:52 (fourteen years ago)

tbh i read the url and then the byline

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

but i'm slowly working my way through it now

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:53 (fourteen years ago)

the whole katie roiphe/caitlin flanagan/lori gottlieb/camille paglia thing infuriates me way more than misogynist dudes tbh. i guess that's sexist of me.

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 20:55 (fourteen years ago)

susan faludi's backlash one of the most otm books of all time. pulling a katie roiphe will always get you column inches.

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

Katie Roiphe is a professor at the Arthur L. Carter Journalism Institute at New York University.

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

hahahaha and get you a cushy teaching job fuck this world

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:00 (fourteen years ago)

the whole katie roiphe/caitlin flanagan/lori gottlieb/camille paglia thing infuriates me way more than misogynist dudes tbh. i guess that's sexist of me.

we should do a poll!

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:01 (fourteen years ago)

there are a lot more...wendy shalit....there was one who was really big in the 90s all career women never have babies! faludi focuses on her...sylvia somebody?

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

so many

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:02 (fourteen years ago)

sylvia ann hewlett!

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:03 (fourteen years ago)

people like phyllis schlafly at least seem like true believers and not all cynical provocateur like roiphe/paglia

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

the roiphe/paglia axis has this pretense of being "on your side," it makes it so much worse

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:12 (fourteen years ago)

In a 1995 interview, Camille Paglia described (Roiphe) as "the first intellectual of her generation.

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:16 (fourteen years ago)

haha of course

i cant imagine them being friends though, they both seem so horrible and unkind. there can kind of only be one camille paglia figure in a given room because being camille paglia is predicated on being the only one.

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:18 (fourteen years ago)

paglia apparently withrew that opinion after roiphe backed down a little from her argument when katha pollitt and others otm-ily took her down for the morning after. this is all according to wikipedia btw.

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

i like the idea of camille paglia being the arbiter of who's an intellectual, addled as she is.

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:22 (fourteen years ago)

"When Katie Roiphe came up in the mid-’90s, I thought she was going to be the intellectual of her generation, but she just withdrew after the huge flap about her first book, The Morning After. She drifted off into writing memoirs and talking about her personal life, and now has come back with some book on marriage. She didn't step up and that position is still vacant, so we now have absent two generations of young intellectuals in America."[4]

haha she is so deluded

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:23 (fourteen years ago)

Roiphe responded to some of her critics in an essay in Slate including Gawker.[14]

max, Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:24 (fourteen years ago)

43.
Just Me
Here
November 13th, 2011
1:40 pm
Roiphe, you have some SERIOUS issues. Have you ever been asked whether you like big willies, would you like being thrown over a desk and humped, etc. And all this by so-called "professional" men? Yeah, it's words, but appropriate to the workplace? NO!

tuom tuom club (buzza), Sunday, 13 November 2011 21:31 (fourteen years ago)

Roiphe is such a fucking facepalm.

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 November 2011 05:38 (fourteen years ago)

i just Read This

goole, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:32 (fourteen years ago)

you are allowed

max, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

it's not called Goole, Don't Read This, after all

max, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:33 (fourteen years ago)

maybe it should be!!

goole, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:38 (fourteen years ago)

Is the anodyne drone typing away in her silent cubicle free from the risk of comment on her clothes, the terror of a joke, the unsettlement of an unwanted or even a wanted sexual advance, truly our ideal?

PRETTY MUCH

Should we aspire to the drab, cautious, civilized, quiet, comfortable workplace all of this language presumes and theorizes?

YES

At this late date, perhaps we should be worrying about different forms of hostility in our workplace.

MY MY WHATEVER DO YOU MEAN

goole, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:41 (fourteen years ago)

the underlying argument of a lot of her stuff lately has been "women aren't sexy enough these days" it's like who are you, spinal tap?

horseshoe, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

i mean, "argument"

horseshoe, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)

"feminism ruined sex, which, after all, is women's sole responsibility"

horseshoe, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

omg i need to stop i hate her so much

horseshoe, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:44 (fourteen years ago)

i meant "solely the responsibility of women" as well as Woman's chief function in this world

horseshoe, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:45 (fourteen years ago)

i think katie roiphe has caused me to short-circuit. you were right, max; i shouldn't have Read This

horseshoe, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:46 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/11/how-the-feminist-blogosphere-has-sent-us-back-in-time/247964/

love the single comment

goole, Monday, 14 November 2011 19:49 (fourteen years ago)


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