NFC: Packers over Bucs
AFC: Patriots over Colts
Super Bowl: Patriots over Packers
(feel free to get more detailed)
― J0rdan S., Monday, 31 December 2007 04:32 (seventeen years ago)
I'm pretty much with you unless something wacky happens for Indy to lose before the afc title game, I haven't watched any Chargers games since Pats-Chargers week 4 or so. After today, I'm just waiting for some karma to come back on the Colts because.. well, wasn't the lesson of the last Pats-Indy game to play 60 minutes every time & I'm just annoyed at how boring the Tennessee game was.
― daria-g, Monday, 31 December 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago)
Patriots over Chargers Cowboys over Packers Patriots over Cowboys
NOT TO GO OUT ON A LIMB OR ANYTHING...
― polyphonic, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:08 (seventeen years ago)
polyphonic OTM I think.
The TN game wasn't boring at all - it was a damn nail-biter!!
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:22 (seventeen years ago)
jags > steelers chargers > titans redskins > seahawks bucs > giants
pats > jags colts > chargers redskins > cowboys packers > bucs
pats > colts packers > redskins
pats greatest team ever bret favre is not having fun !!!! :]
― jhøshea, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:23 (seventeen years ago)
I think Pack beat Dallas this time around if someone else doesn't get them first. Dallas hasn't been looking so great lately. I'm cool with skins making it to NFC title game, I can see that.
I dunno about TN game I had it on the whole time but.. snooze.. Indy just didn't care
― daria-g, Monday, 31 December 2007 05:29 (seventeen years ago)
jags over steelers chargers over titans skins over hawks giants over bucs (but the giants still suck)
pats over jags colts over chargers boys over skins packers over gints
colts over pats OH YEAH boys over packers
BOYS OVER COLTS A BOLD CLAM
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 31 December 2007 08:18 (seventeen years ago)
i hope it comes down to pats/pack so the pats can exorcise the ghost of desmond fucking howard running back that kick.
do it for ben coates!
― chicago kevin, Monday, 31 December 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago)
i agree w/ everything forks picked 'cept i think INDY WILL REPEAT. maybe pack beats dallas, actually...
― johnny crunch, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago)
though, actually, fuck, i dont think wash is going to beat seattle
― johnny crunch, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago)
agree w/ everything forks picked 'cept i think INDY WILL REPEAT.
lol, you gonna feel silly later.
― chicago kevin, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
Wild-card playoffs
Saturday
NFC: Washington Redskins (9-7) at Seattle Seahawks (10-6), 4:30 p.m. ET (NBC) AFC: Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) at Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6), 8 p.m. ET (NBC)
Sunday
NFC: New York Giants (10-6) at Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7), 1 p.m. ET (Fox) AFC: Tennessee (10-6) at San Diego Chargers (11-5), 4:30 p.m. ET (CBS)
Divisional playoffs
Saturday, Jan. 12
NFC: Seattle (10-6), Tampa Bay (9-7) or New York Giants (10-6) at Green Bay (13-3), 4:30 p.m. ET (Fox) AFC: Pittsburgh (10-6), Jacksonville (11-5), or Tennessee (10-6) at New England (16-0), 8 p.m. ET (CBS)
Sunday, Jan. 13
AFC: San Diego (11-5), Pittsburgh (10-6), or Jacksonville (11-5) at Indianapolis (13-3), 1 p.m. ET (CBS) NFC: Tampa Bay (9-7), New York Giants (10-6) or Washington (9-7) at Dallas (13-3), 4:30 p.m. ET (FOX)
― cankles, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:47 (seventeen years ago)
WAS @ SEA - SQUAWKS JAX @ PIT - PIT NYG @ TB - TB TEN @ SD - SD
SEA @ GB - SEA PIT @ NE - NE TB @ DAL - TB SD @ IND - IND
IND @ NE - IND TB @ SEA - SEA
SEA-IND - IND
― cankles, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.flotsam-media.com/2007/12/pre-playoff-power-rankings.html
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Monday, 31 December 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago)
It makes me feel like I should do something wacky to get noticed, like when J0hn Kruk predicts Pittsburgh to go to the NLCS or has a testicle removed.
heheh. He's one of our local heroes, i heard over holiday this hilarious story about JK showing up at a local awards dinner years ago so drunk/cokedup that his own father almost beat the crap out of him. (FWIW dude has since cleaned up his act completely.)
― daria-g, Monday, 31 December 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago)
redskins to go all the way. gibbs 2.0 revealed to have been playing dumb for the past three years - actually has possessed a powerful grasp of the modern game and has been saving secret package of painstakingly developed plays for exactly this moment, going in to the playoffs with winning momentum, an RIP to keep everyone motivated, and double-stealth "replacement" quarterback
― El Tomboto, Monday, 31 December 2007 22:36 (seventeen years ago)
super bowl: redskins 21, jags 19
― El Tomboto, Monday, 31 December 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago)
Jags favored by two in Pit. I took the bait and put 100 on Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh and Jax are even-steven in my book but Pitt gets the edge at home and playoff experience.
LOCK OF THE WEEK
― brownie, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)
pitt has been kinda crappy lately though.
― bnw, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:08 (seventeen years ago)
yes and they are banged up good but they will solve the riddle that is Fred Taylor.
― brownie, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:11 (seventeen years ago)
I will be at least a little shocked if Pittsburgh wins that game.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:06 (seventeen years ago)
GUYS I LOVE THE PLAYOFFS!!! EVEN WHEN THE PATRIOTS ARE RUINING MY LIFE.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:25 (seventeen years ago)
NO PATRIOTS THIS WEEKEND JUST LIKE THEIR BYE WEEK WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND FULL OF HOPE AND NOW THAT HOPE IS REKINDLED IN THE FORM OF BEN ROFFLESBERGER LET US PRAY
― brownie, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:33 (seventeen years ago)
I think the Chargers are going to blow out the Titans.
Feel free to quote this back to me after the Bolts lose, or after Haynesworth and Vandenbosch team up to stab Phil Rivers in the eyes with LDT's exposed rib bones.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:37 (seventeen years ago)
WAS @ SEA - seahawks will beat wash JAX @ PIT - jax will take this one NYG @ TB - eli is magic, so NYG TEN @ SD - SD
SEA @ GB - hasselbeck revenge? SEA JAX @ NE - NE NYG @ DAL - DAL SD @ IND - IND
IND @ NE - NE DAL @ SEA - SEA
SEA-NE - SEA (lol?)
― omar little, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 18:55 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, lol.
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 20:50 (seventeen years ago)
WAS @ SEA - SEA JAX @ PIT - JJ NYG @ TB - NYG (AMAZING. COUGHMAN COMES BACK NEXT YEAR ;_;) TEN @ SD - SD
SEA @ GB - GB JAX @ NE - NE NYG @ DAL - DAL SD @ IND - IND
IND @ NE - IND (lol) DAL @ GB - GB
GB @ IND - IND
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)
Can someone please make a case for Indianapolis's defense? I am not sold on them at all, as much as I love Bob Sanders. Against teams like Jacksonville, San Diego, or Dallas ... teams that blitz a lot and pressure the QB, I think Peyton makes enough mistakes to underperform, and I don't see the defense as being good enough to make up for it. Maybe in September, but not the current cast of characters.
And against New England ... I don't know, I just don't see it. Maybe you can score points on New England by attacking their old linebackers with a power running game and a lot of dink and dunk passing, but I don't see anyone stopping their offense. When all else fails, Kevin Faulk is always wide open. There were a thousand moments in the Giants game where Ben Watson was WIDE OPEN in the middle of the field.
Osi and Strahan couldn't do anything against the NE offensive line (even with backups playing on the right side). Brady was 32/42 for 356 yards. The only Giants sack of the night came from Torbor on a play where his man just completely blew the assignment. They stopped the run, though.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
...too bad they also have Maurice Jones-Drew, and the Steelers now have no Willie Parker.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 3 January 2008 01:55 (seventeen years ago)
The Colts actually did a pretty good job of containing New England's offense (much better than New York) until they fell apart in the 4th quarter.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 3 January 2008 01:57 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, they played just well enough to lose at home.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 January 2008 02:24 (seventeen years ago)
so me and cankles are the only ones predicting a Pitt victory?
Ade, it's time to get the hell away from these maroons. I get to drive.
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~dickbolt/RamsayAndBolt57.jpg
― brownie, Thursday, 3 January 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)
I know you're a Pat fan and all but you don't exactly have to be defensive after a 16-0 season...:)
The idea that nobody can beat the Patriots is ludicrous. The idea that more than 2 teams have a legitimate shot at it isn't.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 3 January 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)
Of course, if the referees blatantly ignore Patriot corners mauling Colt receivers like in 2003, it will be impossible....
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 3 January 2008 03:18 (seventeen years ago)
I think the Patriots can lose to any number of teams... I mean, they nearly lost to the Ravens for fuck's sake .... I just don't think they will.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 3 January 2008 03:47 (seventeen years ago)
Well, they are masters at closing out games...you can't come from behind against them, and even if you're winning you're not safe for long, so.....
I guess we'll see!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 3 January 2008 03:48 (seventeen years ago)
"The idea that nobody can beat the Patriots is ludicrous."
No more so than since Miami in 72 didn't lose a game that they are automatically the greatest team ever.
I'd feel a whole lot better on the Colts chances against NE if they had Dwight Freeney. They have gotten good play out of their backup lineman, but that is a big loss to have playing the Pats. Other than Freeney, their defense is pretty good and has shown some depth, as they lost Rob Morris early in the year and it didn't seem to phase things. Indy has a good rookie DT in Ed Johnson.
I think for Indy to win, they will have to grind it out and flip the scorecard on the Pats by keeping Brady off the field. Pretty wild...huh? Manning needs to get back into the mindset he showed in that first game against B-more last year and not try to force the deep stuff and instead just take what they can get and work the clock. I think Manning in a couple of games showed the same impatience that got him into trouble earlier in his career by trying to force it deep, especially in plays where really they just need a first down.
Personally, I think the Colts should have saved Addai bit more and given more carries to Kenton Keith. Addai has looked a bit worn as the season has gone on and Keith has played pretty well in the time given. I'd like to see them use Keith as a battering ram like they did with Dom Rhodes last year.
"Of course, if the referees blatantly ignore Patriot corners mauling Colt receivers like in 2003, it will be impossible"
They pretty much started enforcing the five yard contact rule on the entire NFL after that game. I'm just happy that Ty Law will be eating pizza during this off season. That dude has had Manning's number and it does not matter what team he is playing with.
― earlnash, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:34 (seventeen years ago)
I said the idea that nobody "can", not that nobody "will". major diff!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:55 (seventeen years ago)
WAS @ SEA - hawks almost lost to rams, that means UR BAD JAX @ PIT - no respect > no running back NYG @ TB - STOPPABLE TEN @ SD - Vince Young seems really dumb.
WAS @ GB JAX @ NE - sad day TB @ DAL SD @ IND - the hero dies before he gets to the end boss :(
funtimes Favre < ROMOWENS SD < NE - too litle LT, too many Rivers INT
Cowgirls beat Pats - every break finally goes against Pats
― bnw, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:06 (seventeen years ago)
ugh, this board is rapidly declining into every other football board ever. i don't remember ever saying, typing, or thinking that nobody can beat the pats. in fact there were 16 (well, 14, cause y'know) games where they had a chance to lose. everyone is capable of beating anyone else on any given sunday (well, almost everyone because, again, y'know).
but the thing about this team is that THEY MAKE YOU BEAT THEM. you can't play well for most of the game, or play them straight up for 7/8ths of it and hope they'll make a mistake that gives you an advantage because it's not going to happen. you have to beat them.
so again, i think the pats have a chance at losing at home against jax or pit or sd or whomever. i don't think they will because i think they are better than those teams. and if indy makes it out of their first game and travels to new england i don't see why the outcome would change from when indy lost to them at home in week 9 or whenever it was.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:37 (seventeen years ago)
I don't like picking past this weekend, but what the fuck:
SEA > WAS JAX > PIT NYG > TB (squeaker, poss. OT) SD > TN
NE > JAX SD > IND DAL > NYG (Dal. will explode in Eli's face like a cartoon cigar) GB > SEA
NE > SD (squeaker #2) DAL > GB
DAL > NE, followed within a couple of weeks by T.O.'s celebratory suicide at 118 mph into a bridge approach, complete with a note saying "lol i TOLD you assholes im better than moss"
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 3 January 2008 16:46 (seventeen years ago)
i kinda had the same feeling about the skins, tombot. todd collins fits in with the gibbs/journeyman QB narrative anyway. 2 bad the skins sukk~
i'm tempted to make a case for the colts defense, but i dont know how mathis has been playing on that knee of his. you can't like their chances if they go into NE minus freeney AND mathis.
i don't know why i picked pitt to win this weekend. willie's not a big loss, but they can't defend and they can't pass protect. they're fucked.
― cankles, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)
the jags-pitt game was on NFL Replay last night, I watched a few downs of the jags' offense on that and I'm not sure what LeBeau can bring to really control the line against them
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)
yeah there's nothing tricky at all about the jags, they just either beat you physically or they don't beat you at all. aaron smith is a huge loss for that pitt defense.
― cankles, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
jags over steelers chargers over the worst fucking team to ever make it to the playoffs in nfl history seahawks over redskins bucs over giants
pats over jags colts over chargers seahawks over cowboys bucs over packers
colts over pats seahawks over bucs
colts over seahawks
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 5 January 2008 04:24 (seventeen years ago)
chargers over the worst fucking team to ever make it to the playoffs in nfl history
last year's jets & chiefs teams were prob worse, plus the 2004 rams would like to speak2u
― cankles, Saturday, 5 January 2008 05:00 (seventeen years ago)
How about the 1985 Cleveland Browns team that won a division at 8-8 and actually gave up more points than they scored in the regular season?
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:11 (seventeen years ago)
wtf the chargers are totally on fire right now
― jhøshea, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:20 (seventeen years ago)
I think he was referring to the Titans as the worst team.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:27 (seventeen years ago)
"over"
lol reading comprehension
― jhøshea, Sunday, 6 January 2008 15:40 (seventeen years ago)
dudes: isn't rivers basically ryan leaf w/ talent?
― j.q higgins, Monday, 14 January 2008 16:58 (seventeen years ago)
so u dont like it when players yell at fans do not understand?
― jhøshea, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)
speaking of douchebaggery, bob sanders the karma police say you lost your team the game.
― chicago kevin, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)
otm there.
I have no beef with Rivers.
― Bill Magill, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:05 (seventeen years ago)
This really could be The Best NFL Season Evar
― rogermexico., Monday, 14 January 2008 17:28 (seventeen years ago)
wasn't that Rivers talking smack to Cutler a few weeks ago? He just ain't earned his stripes yet imo.
― bnw, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:30 (seventeen years ago)
don't you think rivers looks like leaf, though? being as big of a tool would be a tall order, i grant you...
― j.q higgins, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:32 (seventeen years ago)
The difference between Leaf and Rivers is that everyone on the team hated Leaf, whereas everyone on the OTHER team hates Rivers.
― polyphonic, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:06 (seventeen years ago)
Theo Fleury syndrome.
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:13 (seventeen years ago)
Is Rivers really that much of a douchebag? I haven't seen any evidence of this, really...
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)
are you serious???
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:09 (seventeen years ago)
jesus! you could not be more wrong, man. jacksonville's defensive gameplan was literally perfect. listen, jax just does NOT match up well with ne in the secondary, so they prevented the deep ball with their umbrella coverage and blitzed ONE time (the big stallworth catch) - if they'd been aggressive the game would've been over a LOT earlier.
So, what you're saying is the exact same thing would have happened, only Jacksonville wouldn't have dicked with the nation for about 2 and a half quarters? My opinion is...
WHO GIVES A FUCK? You CANNOT beat the Patriots by playing bend but don't break, and even the sportscasters started to question the gameplan after about two quarters. Yes, you'll take away the deep ball, yes they'll score more slowly, but they'll STILL SCORE.
And for the record, the Giants didn't start to get torpedoed until pretty late in the game without using the Jaguars approach, AND it took Sam Madison INJURING himself for it to happen!
that's the exact way that jax could NOT have defended ne - brady's OUTSTANDING at reading the blitz & getting rid of the football, u HAVE to play deep and force ne to work the checkdowns, and then come up and try to make something happen after the catch. jax are NOT a blitzing team and they're not a man coverage team - they played as good as they could play!!
*Trying to remember where I said Jacksonville should have blitzed every down*.
*Can't remember because I said 'once in a while'.
they did turn ball over early, other than that they played as well as they could. if they played the pats 10 times i'm not sure if they could've come up with a better gameplan or a better effort.
Yea sure, defensive adjustments are wastes of time when you have an all or nothing shot.
and listen, this is just the only way you can play NE.
Based on what, the fact that it has worked precisely zero times, which is how many times the other approach has worked? It is STATISTICALLY NO BETTER than the other approach at this point of the season. At this stage of the season, you aren't jockeying for positioning, it's all or nothing.
You have to have balls on occasion.
it's the only way you play Indy, too - that's pretty much an established fact. look how Ten and Jax play Indy every year, they always give them tough games because they know that you have to force the Colts to sustain 15-play drives and hope for some mistakes along the way. it's the same with this Pats team.
Uh, except the Colts are typically quite successful with sustained drives, with the exception of yesterday.
*when i say they're not a blitzing team, I mean they're not good at it! just sending an extra guy to blitz doesnt do ya anything if you dont have good avoid skills on the blitz or you're not good doing it - indy's the same. indy relies on 4-man pressures and even though they were being dominated at the line of scrimmage today, they would've been insane to start throwing blitzes at SD.
If you'll reread my post, you'll see my main problem was that after it was long established that their four man front was not going to get pressure on Brady, they continued to use that approach, and hell, on a few occasions, rushed THREE, and dropped the rest into coverage...which still didn't work.
I never said they should have blitzed every down, because Brady beats it with the screens. However, it works if you use it periodically and disguise it well. and hell, at some point you just have to fling shit at the fan and see what sticks.
The Patriots' only unsuccessful drive in the first half came on a missed field goal, and a possession at the end of the half in which they knelt down. That's it.
Brady has made a career of the dink and dunk shit. To win using that approach against the Patriots, you have to have the ball bounce your way a couple of times. It looked like Arena Football out there for a while.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 03:52 (seventeen years ago)
there's a difference between having balls and being stupid
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:22 (seventeen years ago)
cankles is otm dude. you have to put the patriots in the position to make mistakes and hope that happens. blitzing them doesn't do that. the pats would have shredded them with their dbs in man coverage. by keeping the pats in front of you you allow them to fumble, for brady to force passes into coverage (happened in the fins game) or for their guys to drop passes (i.e. welker)
if they had blitzed brady as you advocate moss and welker would have had 20 catches 250 yards and 3 touchdowns combined
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:26 (seventeen years ago)
probably 5 touchdowns actually!! do you remember what happened when the bills blitzed them???
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:28 (seventeen years ago)
your argument's already lost when you're comparing the Bills and the Jaguars....
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:35 (seventeen years ago)
*Struggling to understand why it matters WHO had those numbers, seeing as Ben Watson and Wes Welker had 3 touchdowns combined, and Brady's 262 yards were spread amongst 8 different receivers*.
Not sure what is so hard to comprehend about the concept of blitzing 'once in a while'--for them to put up the numbers you suggest, they'd have to do it more than 'once in a while'.
But hey, I'll go along with you all and say the best defense is to make no adjustments after your approach fails in the first half!
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:38 (seventeen years ago)
christ
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:58 (seventeen years ago)
the skins who had (w/ sean taylor still btw) arguably the best dbacks in the league got burned blitzing too
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 04:59 (seventeen years ago)
yeah meaning the welker/moss stats + the other 6 recievers getting their 90-100 combined. the jags would have been swamped. plus keeping them in front of you eliminates the big play which keeps the pats offense on the field which benefits you by reducing their number of drives
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:01 (seventeen years ago)
basically the argument boils down to this: you aren't gonna throw brady off his game by blitzing two more linebackers or a safety or something. this mutated-prevent isn't the perfect solution either, but blitzing only exacerbates the problem. as cliche as it sounds, you really do have to make maroney, watson, stallworth et al beat you. blitzing just fosters passes to moss and welker and then you're immediately fucked
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 05:08 (seventeen years ago)
ah, so that's what it's about. you're pissed that you had to sit through all those boring death-by-a-thousand-paper-cut drives. i feel u dude!!!!
You CANNOT beat the Patriots by playing bend but don't break, and even the sportscasters started to question the gameplan after about two quarters.
well shit, if PHIL SIMMS doesn't think it's strategically sound...
*Trying to remember where I said Jacksonville should have blitzed every down*.*Can't remember because I said 'once in a while'.
If you'll reread my post, you'll see my main problem was that after it was long established that their four man front was not going to get pressure on Brady, they continued to use that approach, and hell, on a few occasions, rushed THREE, and dropped the rest into coverage...which still didn't work.I never said they should have blitzed every down, because Brady beats it with the screens. However, it works if you use it periodically and disguise it well. and hell, at some point you just have to fling shit at the fan and see what sticks.
Based on what, the fact that it has worked precisely zero times, which is how many times the other approach has worked? It is STATISTICALLY NO BETTER than the other approach at this point of the season. At this stage of the season, you aren't jockeying for positioning, it's all or nothing.You have to have balls on occasion.
so "throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks" (as opposed to installing and executing a thoughtfully-conceived gameplan) = having balls? Also, re: "However, it works if you use it periodically and disguise it well" - that was my point when I talk about Jax not being a good blitzing team! They don't have very good blitzers and they don't have a lot of disguise pressure packages. They can't just magic up a blitz package in the middle of the fucking game, and sending extra guys in of itself won't really do you much good.
that's the point, u immeasurable dipshit! indy excels at that kind of drive, yes, and they've had to become the kind of team that can do that by necessity - because everyone realized the only way to defend them was to take away everything deep, force them into long 15-play drives, and hope that for their 13 good plays there will be 2 bad ones that can help turn the tide. sustained excellence is difficult even for these offenses, and giving them easy shots at explosive plays won't do you any favors. you also have to consider that a lot of teams - like jacksonville - aren't built for quick-scoring and explosive plays like this, so making indy/ne play at a slower pace keeps the game within reach for your offense.
To win using that approach against the Patriots, you have to have the ball bounce your way a couple of times.
I hate to break it to you, but that would've been Jacksonville's only chance no matter the approach - lucky breaks and sloppy play by NE. That's it, period. So they employed a gameplan that would force NE to play 'their' style of game and play it perfectly - which they did. What you're proposing is no less dependent on luck; if you're bad at blitzing, and tom brady is great at reading blitzes, then sending extra rushers can only succeed if you're really, really fortunate.
― cankles, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 07:44 (seventeen years ago)
hey guys guess which team is not bad at blitzing
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 08:08 (seventeen years ago)
actually, the skins did not blitz and played inexplicably soft coverage against the pats.
― j.q higgins, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)
^^ a joe gibbs "senior moment" ^^
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 15:59 (seventeen years ago)
more like a gregg williams paranoid moment. he was all captain queeg like at the beginning of the year due to his concer about the big play. beating the crap out of the lions w/ his four man front seemed to lend creedence to his theories.
― j.q higgins, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:53 (seventeen years ago)
i think the way to beat the pats is to have one corner who can keep randy moss in check. i'm not saying shut him out but keep him from having a monster game. you need to have your safeties involved in denying welker/gaffney/watson/faulk the ball because you DO need to pressure brady. and the pats o-line is good enough where you'll need more than just your four down linemen to do it, so you'll need to send a linebacker (or safety if your linebackers can run w/watson or faulk) and hope for the best. and even then it's like a 60/40 proposition that brady'll find the open man and you'll get burned.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)
If you go hog wild blitzing against the Pats you're fucked, unless you have Night Train Lane and Deion Sanders as your corners.
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 17:43 (seventeen years ago)
blitzing a linebacker or safety isn't exactly going hog wild. but you need one corner who can at least impede moss without help on every play from a safety. i'm guessing that gb's dbacks are probably the most capable of this of the 3 remaining teams.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)
Cromartie is a little overrated, but Jammer has been really quite good this year. Nobody throws in his direction anymore, which is why Cromartie got all those picks. Florence gets picked on a lot in the nickel, but he was a capable starting cornerback.
The safeties are the weak spot, though. McCree and Weddle are both big hitters, but they make poor decisions in space. Hart doesn't have any appreciable skills that I've noticed.
I predict another big game for the role players .... Watson, Faulk, Stallworth, Gaffney. Those guys will be open all day long. And when Welker gets one-on-one with Jammer, it could get ugly on a few slants or screens if McCree and Hart can't give effective backside help.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)
the point spread is killing me in all this games
Turner can run! He may be the reason I go with SD. But Billy Volek! He may be the reason I go with NE.
― brownie, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)
pats offense is why you should go with new england.
― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)
Pats D has shown their age late in the season, but if Rivers and LT can't go, forget it. See you in AZ
― Bill Magill, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:00 (seventeen years ago)
I would still pick New England even if every Chargers player happened to be completely healthy. I don't think Volek will do much worse than Rivers would do, and Turner is arguably playing better than LT lately.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)
I fucking sold out goddamnit.
took NE (-7.5) and GB (-.5) in a two team teaser to win $37.
37 dollars!
These are toubled times.
― brownie, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)
OH PLUS THE $5 HS OWES ME *cracks knuckles*
― brownie, Wednesday, 16 January 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)
I'm 7 for 8 up to now, but I don't have a clue for today. Still looking at a SD/NE squeaker... my head tells me GB will trounce NY, but I wouldn't bet more than a dime on it.
― Rock Hardy, Sunday, 20 January 2008 15:58 (seventeen years ago)
rly????????? both of these games are STONE COLD LOX imo. they should've just given ne and gb the week off and let them prepare for the SB~
― cankles, Sunday, 20 January 2008 16:17 (seventeen years ago)
I'm sure some people were saying that about Dallas last week.
In this day and age, there are no stone cold locks. Everyone thought the Colts were a lock to run the table in 2005....
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 20 January 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)
I didn't think the Giants would suddenly remember how to play football or that TO would get injured, but otherwise things have gone pretty much according to plan.
― polyphonic, Sunday, 20 January 2008 17:57 (seventeen years ago)
yea, I'm suuuuuuuuure everybody thought the Colts would lose to the Chargers, and most of the pundits expected Tampa Bay to beat NYG (even Sporting News predicted it).
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 20 January 2008 18:08 (seventeen years ago)
hell 2 of the teams expected to be in the conf championship game aren't there and 1 expected to be in the Super Bowl isn't...granted things will probably turn out as expected though with the Patsies (which, for me has been the one disappointing item of the playoffs, not because its the Patsies, but because the conclusion seems inevitable!)
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 20 January 2008 18:27 (seventeen years ago)
Preparing for a Pats / GB superbowl...
Rivers looks good despite throwing two interceptions...
bring LT's Darth Vader-looking ass in there and we'll have a great second half!!
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 20 January 2008 21:42 (seventeen years ago)
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― johnny crunch, Monday, 21 January 2008 04:23 (seventeen years ago)
Ahem.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Monday, 21 January 2008 05:13 (seventeen years ago)
not big on making picks, but I wasn't surprised about something coming back on the Colts for giving away the last game to TN and the Cowboys choking. wishful thinking on my Redskins keeping it together in the postseason
― daria-g, Monday, 21 January 2008 05:30 (seventeen years ago)
yea, I'm suuuuuuuuure everybody thought the Colts would lose to the Chargers.
Well, I did pick them, and not just because I'm a homer.
― polyphonic, Monday, 21 January 2008 06:07 (seventeen years ago)
yea but you have to admit you were in the minority on that one.
― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 01:52 (seventeen years ago)
OMG brownie i totally owe you $5 where do I mail that? perhaps I will enclose some buffalo wings.
― horseshoe, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)
With the falling dollar the US will shortly be going to a Buffalo Wing based economy. So just send me the wings. I can use dollars to wipe the sauce off my mouth.
― brownie, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 15:49 (seventeen years ago)