NFL WEEK 12 DISCUSSION THREAD

Cincinnati
Carolina
Chicago
Cleveland
New England
Washington
Tennessee
Houston
Jacksonville
Oakland
Philadelphia
Seattle
New Orleans

Pittsburgh

on this other board i'm on whoever gets the most right each week gets their team colors on their login name, but i guess there's not anything cool that y'all can do here :'(

CINCINNATI over Baltimore
Carolina over BUFFALO
KANSAS CITY over New England
St. Louis over HOUSTON
Chicago over TAMPA BAY
MINNESOTA over Cleveland
WASHINGTON over San Diego
TENNESSEE over San Francisco
Jacksonville over ARIZONA
OAKLAND over Miami
PHILADELPHIA over Green Bay
SEATTLE over New York Giants
NEW YORK JETS over New Orleans

INDIANAPOLIS over Pittsburgh

BROWNS 100
MINNESOTA 5

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/051123

Chris Simms again played pretty well for Tampa in a loss, other than giving up a fumble. He took some serious licks from the Bear defense, but kept coming back. The guy has a serious arm.

Eli Manning looked good. It is going to be scary if he starts hitting on a few more of those home run passes. I like that the Giants are try to air it out vertical quite a bit. Plaxico Burriss is so much taller than most of these dbs that it seems like somewhat of a safe pass.

Jay Feeley...GOATMAN!!! I know one was from 53 and another from 45, but missing three field goals to win?

I didn't see the game, but the Viks win again? I found that one hard to believe. Cleveland had been playing pretty well of late, especially running the ball and with defense.

Hands up who would like to see this years Bears defense play the Colts, Bengals or Chargers' offense? I'd really love to see how they would stack up against the three high powered offenses from the AFC. Denver scores a lot of points, but they are ground control, the other three both air it out and run the ball.

Seattle gets loud! That Colts game in a few weeks should be pretty crazy.

Other than Jurevicus, the Seahawks still don't have a reciever worth a crap. It is either that or Hasselbeck is the problem, but considering how many drops I have seen Seattle have over the past couple of years, I still give the QB the benefit of the doubt.

I was flipping back and watching a bit of the Bengals game between breaks of the Bears, as they are not on as often around here. Cinci was up 34 to zip and then went into auto pilot or something, as I think Bmore had three TDs in what seemed like five minutes. I don't know what that was about, but it cannot be that good when Kyle Boller rings up the scoreboard.

I also want all of these broadcasters that keep talking about Jonathan Ogden like he is allworld ALLPRO to actually watch him play these days for the Ravens. Ogden is still huge, but he isn't really that great anymore. Fast defensive ends eat him up and criminy the Ravens cannot run for crap anymore, let alone their putrid passing game.

Simms does indeed look pretty good, but if he wants to win consistently in this league he might want to protect the football on his own one yard line. Garbage win for the Bear really, despite the fact that, yes, the defense continues to play outstanding football...

What I did on my Thanksgiving vacation: see my Leos get thoroughly embarassed on national TV. oh well, at least I finally got to see Michael Vick play live. That was a thrill. Mariah Carey sucked colossally. How come we got her instead of Sheryl Crow? Damn, that ends a streak of three really great halftimes in Motown. Then A&M blows a great chance to upset the Longhorns, that sucked too. At least I finally got to see Friday Night Lights, the best football movie I've seen.

HAhaha holy shit --- Flava Flav in a Bud Light commercial just now on SNF .. busting out a "yeaaah boyee"!! too fucking great...

HAW HAW

The Lions deserved to lose with those black jerseys.

though of course mariucci is a better coach.

Shock...another 49er coach with supposed greatness goes down in flames with another team. George Siefert must be feeling better about that 1-15 year in Carolina.

Holmgren is another coach I think was greatly overrated when he was with Green Bay.

Charles Rogers has been a big bust and so far Mike Williams has been nowhere near as good as the scouts said he would be when he left USC. I suppose Mike Williams missing that year of football probably didn't help.