i never even knew that ties were in the rulebook: ~~ WEEK 12 OF GOOD GAMES THREAD ~~

CIN @ PIT seriously someone get pittsburgh off of my goddamned television
HOU @ CLE browns
BUF @ KC buffalo to bounce back
NE @ MIA fishies
CHI @ STL hahaha i mean i guess chicago, they probably are pretty pissed about last sunday
TB @ DET detroit might get shut out this year
NYJ @ TEN i can't believe i'm hoping tennessee will win but jesus do you know how unbearable jets nation will be if they pull off this one? yikes! tennessee because i don't believe god truly hates me
SF @ DAL SAN FRANCISCO ~~pick of wishful thinking~~
MIN @ JAC sorry, minneapolitans
PHI @ BAL philly, possibly.
OAK @ DEN lol @ this. denver
NYG @ ARI SO PSYCHED FOR THIS WEEKS GIF!!! ps giants
CAR @ ATL carolina
WAS @ SEA washington
IND @ SD indy, in some kind of bizarre ref-error fest
GB @ NO monday night football just needs to be banned at this point. going with new orleans since they're at home

OTM re: pittsburghlers on every damned week

im going to the new england- miami game this week! so psyched

everyone please refer back to this totally awz video

so jealous that you are in miami

CIN @ PIT PIT
HOU @ CLE HOU
BUF @ KC BUFFALOZ
NE @ MIA NE IN VENGEFUL SCORE RUNUP
CHI @ STL CHI Worst Game this wk.
TB @ DET TB Worst Game this wk.
NYJ @ TEN TEN in Favre 4th q int festival of fun. As soon as BF has to throw the ball late and not just hand it off in the 3rd and 4th q's...
SF @ DAL DAL
MIN @ JAC MIN
PHI @ BAL NFL's 1st consecutive week tie.
OAK @ DEN OAK may be shut out.
NYG @ ARI NYG
CAR @ ATL CAR worst game this wk.
WAS @ SEA WAS
IND @ SD No good can come from this (IND)
GB @ NO NO in The Return of R3gg1n4ld J. Bu5h IV

CIN @ PIT steelers
HOU @ CLE texans
BUF @ KC buffalol
NE @ MIA can they both lose? dolphins
CHI @ STL bearz
TB @ DET tampa bay
NYJ @ TEN tennessee
SF @ DAL SINGLETARY
MIN @ JAC vikes
PHI @ BAL eagles will find a way to lose this one
OAK @ DEN denver
NYG @ ARI the giants are kind of terrifying
CAR @ ATL falcons!
WAS @ SEA washington
IND @ SD indy
GB @ NO new orleans. my friend was recently at a restaurant in n.o. and drew brees was there eating dinner w/ his offensive line. she said he is, indeed, dreamy but also that his chest is disproportionately hueg

CIN @ PIT Bengals, just because I'm too annoyed to pick PIT right now
HOU @ CLE Texans
BUF @ KC Chiefs
NE @ MIA Pats
CHI @ STL Bears
TB @ DET Bucs
NYJ @ TEN better be the TITANS
SF @ DAL 'Boys
MIN @ JAC Vikes. JAX is useless right now.
PHI @ BAL Ravens
OAK @ DEN Broncos!
NYG @ ARI Giants
CAR @ ATL Falcons need it more
WAS @ SEA 'Skins, barely
IND @ SD What the hell, Chargers
GB @ NO Pack. NOLA is done.

CIN @ PIT i think cincinnati is going to still be too busy laughing @ donovan mcnabb to put up much of a fight here
HOU @ CLE maybe if braylon doesn't drop 5 passes they'll win by double digits
BUF @ KC bills
NE @ MIA miami
CHI @ STL ugh do i look like i give a damn anymore. the bears
TB @ DET schef, lions schedule henceforth: tampa, tennessee, minnesota, indy, new orleans, green bay. i think they are toast unless they can somehow catch minnesota during one of their really bad weeks
NYJ @ TEN i dunno, i'm not feeling this matchup for tennessee but then again favre will throw 6 ints probably so i will go with the tits
SF @ DAL san fran!!!
MIN @ JAC jax
PHI @ BAL "i didn't even know there was a football team in baltimore". philly
OAK @ DEN denver
NYG @ ARI giants
CAR @ ATL atlanta
WAS @ SEA wash
IND @ SD gonna be an ugly one i think. SD
GB @ NO i think the saints b/c they'll be at home and pissed off

CIN @ PIT i predict a gutsy win from ben roethlisberger!!
HOU @ CLE browns
BUF @ KC BEAST MODE
NE @ MIA when was the last time a team beat the pats twice in a season? has it ever happened in the belichick era? i'd like to think the fish can pull it off but their win earlier this year was basically predicated on teh wildcat. we'll see. fuck a matt cassell >_<
CHI @ STL if the bears score 30 pts in this game they should suspend the rams season
TB @ DET ok i'll call it! the lions!!
NYJ @ TEN tennessee is going to manhandle the jets
SF @ DAL haha i predict a cowboys win and an openly weeping singletary during the press conference. either that or he eats an animal raw in the locker room at halftime. maybe both.
MIN @ JAC man what the hell? only peter king could get excited about this nonsense. peterson i guess...
PHI @ BAL iggs i guess? baltimore should just let the eagles get to 3rd and 1 every drive.
OAK @ DEN hahaha
NYG @ ARI NYG run all over them
CAR @ ATL ATL! RODDY! MATTY! (dellhomme: 11-32 102 yds 0 tds 2 ints)
WAS @ SEA skins aren't making the playoffs are they? they'll win here tho i guess
IND @ SD SD. indy is really not good at all this year
GB @ NO GB. if the saints had bush than maybe them...

seriously why is pittsburgh on prime time television literally every single week. i need to know the answer to this.

at least you care about the nfc east! for the rest of us primetime games are like multiple choice test questions:

what are this week's primetime games?

a. giants vs. eagles
b. redskins vs. cowboys
c. giants vs. redskins
d. steelers vs. jaguars
e. two of the above

but yeah the steelers always being on is fucking ridiculous

and if it's not prime time than it's the 4 pm national game on cbs

Whatever this is just NFL network primetime which means if I don't go out on Thursday I don't have to watch it. I do enjoy getting to exercise my hatred for the Steelers at every available opportunity, tho.

there are four (4) mnf games featuring nfc east teams guys, two (2) thursday night game featuring nfc east teams, and five (5) sunday night games featuring nfc east teams, most of which they are playing each other or PITTSBURGH and CLEVELAND, grow up! that is split between 4 teams, not one greedy bastard of a team!

also i had no idea cleveland was on prime time just as much as the steelers -- wtf is this nonsense? who's responsible for that?

also i had no idea cleveland was on prime time just as much as the steelers -- wtf is this nonsense? who's responsible for that?

srsly tho, who is responsible for that? is it worked out b/w the networks and the league? or is it just the league?

(i have the schedule up right now because i am so angry at this pittsburgh-cleveland hegemony and i need to find out how to complain and request FLEX SCHEDULES season long)

i thought they WERE instituting flex schedules, actually -- what happened?

CIN @ PIT Pits
HOU @ CLE Cleave
BUF @ KC Barf
NE @ MIA Nangland
CHI @ STL Chicago
TB @ DET Tampa
NYJ @ TEN Tenn
SF @ DAL SF
MIN @ JAC Minn
PHI @ BAL Balmer
OAK @ DEN Denver
NYG @ ARI Gigantes
CAR @ ATL Atlanta
WAS @ SEA Washington
IND @ SD Bolts
GB @ NO Green Beret

Dallas - 6
Cleveland - 5
Philadelphia - 5
Pittsburgh - 5

^too much

i know there is a cowboys @ steelers game coming up in wk 14 or 15 and i can only assume it will be on every channel including bravo, fX & animal planet

OTM -- this is why flex scheduling is a good idea, cos seriously THREE of those teams have been kind of busted/unaware of tie rules this year.

remember how that giants-patriots game during the regular season was literally on every channel in the entire universe including korean public access?

yet the super bowl got one channel only.

can't they start flexing really soon?

lol @ animal planet

does flex only apply to the sunday night game tho? because really it should apply to mnf and thursday too because wtf are these games.

http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20drudge%20report.GIF WEEK 15 MNF: CLEVELAND @ PHILLY http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20animated%20siren%20gif%20drudge%20report.GIF

^^watching espn 2 all night as a protest

i think flex starts this wk cuz i heard talk of flexing jets/tits but cbs "protected" it like over a month ago which is some good foresight

They already decided against flexing some wretched NFC North matchup.

xpost I don't think you can flex Monday and Thurs because of pre-set travel arrangements.

im not sure on the flex rules, but i imagine that we'll see some flexing of the titans if they win out in the next 2-3 weeks

btw do you guys think that last years' dolphins are going to pop champagne when detroit goes 0-16?

xpost they should be forced to change their travel cos HELL if i wanna watch cleveland-philly, that is some busted ass shit.

between the mnf game choices and their continued insistence on hiring tony kornheiser to say things at the game, i'm pretty much convinced that espn is trying to destroy football.

someone ask donovan abt the flex rules

don't these teams got private jets

next week's monday night game is JAX-HOU?

they either pick the same teams or the worst games

AW HELL NO

also they have tony kornheiser talking during them

Flexing Monday/Thurs games would be deeply fan-unfriendly to the people who actually attend the games. And the fact is, although Card/Niners and Browns/Bills looked like horrible matchups, as individual games they totally had their moments. Granted those moments will not impact division/WC races in much of a meaningful way, but the price you pay for the LEAGUE OF PARITY is at least 50% turnover in playoff teams year to year and no one ever knowing who is any good. Jax/Hou was a cool matchup--in August.

no, it never was

also who are these mythical ppl who are traveling into a far away town for one day only to see a football game?

Ummm have you seen Browns fans recently?

i mean, i have been known to "actually attend games" and changing the game to a monday night would not have inconvenienced me in any way any of the times i've done it. i'm sure there are a small portion of ppl that this would inconvenience but let's not cry too many heartfelt emotion tears here.

xpost...yes...? being as they are on network prime time all of the time.

seriously i just don't understand your point. i DON'T see how switching a game from sunday day to monday night would inconvenience a majority of attending fans, and certainly not that much more than switching a sunday day to a sunday night would do.

yeah flexing the thursday night games might be an issue but i have to imagine that a large portion of ppl who go to games, especially in areas like cleveland, are going to attend the game whether it's on sunday night or monday night or friday morning

Yeah schef but it's not just fans. Putting on a football game is an actual logistical undertaking involving 100s of stadium staff, a bunch of jets, a bunch of hotel rooms, two football teams and dozens and dozens of team staff, a convoy of trucks full of equipment traveling between two major cities, a fucking army of TV and other media people, etc. etc. I agree the league could in theory flex mon/thurs games but I'm guessing it would be a tough economic sell where these things are all booked in advance and would have to be rebooked with something like three weeks' notice.

The league is actually kind of screwed either way it picks these matchups. If they really played it safe, the primetime games would basically be the steelers, pats, colts, jets, the NFC east, and maybe the packers--i.e. teams with a consistently good record or a large fanbase that will watch anyway, and we would all bitch about it. If they try to pick interesting matchups based on how teams did the prior year (which is how you get Bills/Browns and JAX/HOU), we get a variety of teams but a lot of irrelevant games.

CIN @ PIT yinz
HOU @ CLE brownz
BUF @ KC beast mode
NE @ MIA patsies
CHI @ STL bears, unless rex grossman plays in this game
TB @ DET duh
NYJ @ TEN i hate both these teams
SF @ DAL cosign on wishful thinking re: san fran
MIN @ JAC jville
PHI @ BAL joe the flacco
OAK @ DEN who cares (denver)
NYG @ ARI unstoppable eli
CAR @ ATL gonna go with atl.
WAS @ SEA seattle seahawks, your job is NOT your credit. washington
IND @ SD indianapolis super mannings
GB @ NO with my luck this game will somehow be 11-10 right? pack picks off brees x2, green bay.

since we're on the subject of why espn sux, here is a screencap of their website as it currently stands, where dustin pedroia winning the AL MVP gets bumped off the top two headline spots because of awful self-promotion no one cares abotu

http://i35.tinypic.com/2r3lc9y.png

I don't really mind JAX/HOU because I never get to watch those teams and am tired of Steelers every week. We also get pretty much every Cowboys game because there is a shit ton of Dallas fans in DC.

would also like to see Atlanta.

i feel like i should be able to figure it out, but how is trent edwards like a dude from twilight?

he was dressed to the nines in the post game presser and was real slick and pretty lookin

dude from twilight is none of those things, rich eisen! i guess edwards isn't bad-looking; it hadn't really occurred to me before.

he looks a litttle vampiric here:

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/35/354457.jpg

http://www.buffalobills.com/media-lounge/videos/trent-edwards-post-game-press-conference/b1376fd2-9cf9-4033-b89b-e6676562d095

his noncommittal facial hair is the problem for me, i think. i admire that four-pointed handkerchief, though. the part where he realizes he has to pretend to be confident even when he's not is sort of heartbreaking! he seems like a nice young man.

RIP 2008 Chargers

did anyone watch the grey cup btw (not this dude, but... i'm sure someone must've)

― dj2xdee (cankles), Monday, November 24, 2008 4:40 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i actually did! well some of it. 3 down football is crazy. plus mtl scored a point by kicking a punt into the end zone but essentially that swung ALL the momentum cuz CGY was then given the ball on the 35! we had no idea what was happening!!

xxxpost again the cards are a cursed franchised with a cursed gay bird on their helmet and a cursed ownership and a stadium full of bandwagon cursed fans who live in a terrible hell inferno ghetto -- they will never go the super bowl.

^^OTM x 1000000000000

What I thought was interesting is how much the Jets looked like the 2007 Packers. Farve wasn't throwing bombs all over the place, never a good thing, but making a lot of short drop 10-15 yard passes and letting the receivers make yardage after the catch. As long as they stay in that scheme they look fine, when they don't its interception time.

Good God, the browns are sad. I'm surprised there haven't been mass suicides in Cleveland. That city has some of the best, most loyal fans in the NFL, and every year they get completed screwed.

The Browns are making me consider a move to the Island of Doctor Morbius where football has been outlawed and feral cheerleaders roam the island in packs, hunted like vermin...

OK it's half a day later and I'm still furious about the end of the Colts/Chargers game. Exactly the kind of tacky, bullshit win the Colts have been specializing in for years against a team that could easily beat them save for coaching/guaranteed 4th quarter flameouts. HEY NORV--if you are that mad about kicking a FG maybe you should just go for it!

Indy's clock management is absolutely superlative, I will give them that.

norv turner is an argument against HD televisions

i would have been posting like a motherfucker yesterday but it was my bday and i was partying elsewhere. this week was awesome imo.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/BAF110112322_1024x768.jpg

so this is where I lol heartily at everyone who picked Jacksonville

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

and everyone who picked DENVER, didn't everyone here pick denver? what WAS that?

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp127/deanofsomething/punter.jpg

yo I have had too many delicious beeeeeerrrzzz to try and read all the science you folks just dropped, but just right now That Fucker Eisen just called Eli the MVP. WTF dude I HATE the fucking pats and even I have the sack to call it like it is, if you gotta be all fantasy gay and call another QB an MVP, call it how it is, shit, man. If Tom Fucking Homo Brady ain't damaged goods then this season isn't even about THE FAVRE EFFECT. So depending on how you see your job as a sports dickwad. either Future HOFer Brady or the nameless DL who killed him is the MVP. Don't pretend to fuck with me. This is how history gets fucked up. LYNDON JOHNSON, GREATEST FANTASY PICK EVER.

seriously what the fuck does this even mean

also guys i had to leave my house right before halftime to travel to a pie party (don't ask) and missed the amazing neil rackers free kick field goal debacle during the cards-giants game! what the hell?

kurt warner is "on pace" for 5100 yds, which is nuts.

free kick had me scrambling for the NFL rulebook

the rule is: anytime a player calls for a fair catch the fair catching team can then do free kick from that spot. completely bizarre rule

btw i would like to again state that while i hate the pats and warner is a douche, i have to lol @ the "matt cassel = hero" vs "leinart holds the clipboard, palmer scuffles in cincy" usc-to-nfl storyline. though i hate all those dudes too, fuck usc.

OAK @ DEN not sure why I bet Oakland every weekend

-brownie prediction

heckuva job

yo I have had too many delicious beeeeeerrrzzz to try and read all the science you folks just dropped, but just right now That Fucker Eisen just called Eli the MVP. WTF dude I HATE the fucking pats and even I have the sack to call it like it is, if you gotta be all fantasy gay and call another QB an MVP, call it how it is, shit, man. If Tom Fucking Homo Brady ain't damaged goods then this season isn't even about THE FAVRE EFFECT. So depending on how you see your job as a sports dickwad. either Future HOFer Brady or the nameless DL who killed him is the MVP. Don't pretend to fuck with me. This is how history gets fucked up. LYNDON JOHNSON, GREATEST FANTASY PICK EVER.

vs

Fair Catch/Free Kick rule

http://i404.photobucket.com/albums/pp127/deanofsomething/rs-skins.jpg

guys the montreal alouettes scored one (1) point in the second half of the grey cup final yesterday. someone explain?

Damon Duval 63 yd punt single

^^^not helpful

http://www.ageod.com/forums/images/smilies/bonk.gif

response from 'nucker friend of mine:

This is one of the great features of the Canadian game. If a football is kicked into the endzone (punt or missed field goal) the opposing team must run it out. If they don’t or it’s kicked through the endzone then the kicking team gets 1 point (officially called a rouge but commonly called a single). The opposing team then gets the ball on the 35 yard line. Many a game has been decided when the kicking team misses a field goal and the opposing team punts it out of their own end zone as clock expires.

man I was like channeling RaiderJoe on here last night

Now that the Chargers are done I have decided to adopt the Atlanta Falcons for the remainder of the season. Cankles, give me all of your Atlanta bandwagon information.

i tried to work backwards and got Brady = Kennedy, Johnson = Cassel, Harvey Oswald as the lone lineman but the FAVRE EEFECT stopped me (Gulf of Tonkin?)

xpost

that 1pt punt in the grey cup was wild. the punter was trying to angle it out of bounds inside the 10 and was pissed at himself...my mind boggled at the strategic implications...

the alouettes coach looked like a child molester so i was rooting for calgary

this monday game is wild! brees has all day

Just signing on to say I <3 Brees. Guy's a champ in search of a decent team.

the fact that i hear voice over legend and confirmed dead man don la fontane doing the v.o. for mitsubishi commercials makes me sad

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j141/ECKoolAid/lolsports/inside-me.jpg

well done

Harrington's not even getting the garbage time snaps

http://i38.tinypic.com/jfyphx.jpg

uuumm

hahahahaha excellent job copy team

lollll

he's like catnip for the black fanbase

blacknip

thread connections from the Washington Post homepage today...

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/11/25/f_blamem_1b90c3e.jpg

dammit

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/11/25/f_blamem_1b90c3e.jpg

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