HAHAHA EAT SHIT SHANAHAN

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3800768

aka the nu offseason thread

omfg

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lol shitnahan

this is soooo delightful to me

"I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history."

what a delusional firing

He would be OK as long as he isn't given total control over personnel. But Shanahan's such a control freak I can't see him ever agreeing to it.

Peyton Hillis: 5.0 yards per carry
Michael Pittman: 4.2 ypc
Selvin Young: 5.0
Tatum Bell: 5.7
Andre Hall: 4.1
PJ Pope: 7.6
Ryan Torain: 4.6

vs.

LDT: 3.8
Ryan Grant: 3.9
Marion Barber: 3.6
Willie Parker: 3.8
W. McGahee: 3.9

And yet Jauron still hangs in there.
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The guy that writes for the NY Times had an interesting line about Mangini's firing says that Al Davis assertion that head coaches lose their effectiveness after being a head coach for 10 years holds some statistical weight. I guess he has a chapter about it in a book he wrote.

If you think about Shanahan, his success after the Superbowls was about the same as Chuck Noll, who also led a bunch of mediocre clubs, a few of which got to the playoffs but did not much. Don Shula was also pretty lackluster his last ten years as a head coach, as bunches of those Marino clubs went 9-7 or 7-9.

I'm curious enough to see the guy's numbers. John Madden left at about 10 years as a head coach. Tom Flores never duplicated his success at Seattle after winning two Super Bowls and having a very solid career with the Raiders. Al may be crazy, but there could be something to it. Didn't really Mike Holmgren start winning in Seattle until they took away the dual GM role? It seems like they were kind of middling when he started there for a few years.

dudes let's just come to this conclusion, even on a fairly otm post like above: referencing the correctness of al davis is crazy talk.

i am not a broncos fan but this seems like a bad move imo

jake plummer retired
shanahancin' in the dark

the "i am tom coughlin/gonna lose my job at season's end" iron man song seems ridiculous, now.

wow sounds like shanny be cryin at his presser praising bowlen

"i have no problem with the direction hes taking as the best owner in sports"

the coughlin song seems ridiculous in the original context, but in the context of the NFL musical chairs coaching insanity we get treated to year after year it could still make a statement. I mean you can get the boot just for losing too early in the playoffs.

Bowlen says he anticipated the new coach would not have full say over personnel moves, the way Shanahan did. That means the Broncos might hire a general manager, but Bowlen says his priority was hiring a new coach first.

Bowlen you got that backwards homie.

yeah, i said i was surprised by the mangini firing but it's got nothing on this. also, lol @ shanahan!

you all sound as if you think this guy hasn't already gotten like like 8 job offers

there's not even 8 teams with head coaching vacancies, hot shot. think about that one and smoke it!!

maybe 1 team will get 3 head coaches tho

and defeat the fox robot

its true i mean will no one think of cleatus

maybe cleatus should BE the head coach, if they just get good defensive/offensive coordinators and mr fox robot can hold team meetings and hype everyone up before the game.

cleatus is v inspirational its true

Don't be taken in by his fancy words.

so will there be a special ILNFL hatred unification ceremony if Jerry Jones fires Wade Phillips for Shanahan

wade'll end up with a shanny dartboard.

again

shanahan to jets and mangini to denver next year is no less likely than favre to jets and dolphins winning their division this year

^^^^ otm also that is what is both the best and most retarded thing about the NFL

i would love to see shanahan turn his sheen/bush angry face on, aiming it right at romo

happy new year btw

The local yokels are howling to bring in martyball. Rly.

i certainly understand to an extent why people like hatin on shanahan, but he's a really good coach and i don't know who the broncs are going to find that's better.

oh c'mon, if it were only about who is the best "head coach", Shanahan would've never been fired

i don't personally actually care either way about shanahan, he's fine and i think the firing is a little...wishful thinking over there. your quarterback is a diabetic with delusions of grandeur and you're still fronting champ bailey = what is this?

xpost so what is it about?

it was about dude having a huge ol ego. He never would've given up his Head of Football Everything position and/or worked with a GM not named Mike Shanahan, obviously things that needed to happen. He's just that bad at picking defensive talent, bringing in free agents, etc.

this guy should just go to san diego when norv flames out and continue his quest to coach the entire afc west~

at least, as a Broncs fan, I hope all of this is correct. If Bowlen could've brought in a good GM and scaled back dude's position/pay grade, seems like that would've been a much more obvious/simple solution

It's funny because he's only been in that position for two years or so and only attained that position because of the enablement of the Denver Broncos. Not disagreeing that he probably couldn't handle being a personnel guy too but i don't think Denver had a ton of talent issues outside of defensive front 7--could he not have been given another year to fix that?

The local yokels are howling to bring in martyball. Rly.

That O-line is good for one style only. Denver is going to have some tough years ahead without INSERT RB1 at RB1.

i don't see the defense getting better (enough to make a difference) next year with him in charge. Either he doesn't fire Slowik and everything continues to be awful, or he brings in someone new with a new scheme and gives him absolutely nothing to work with and everything continues to be awful.

I mean, maybe if our RB's were to stay healthy, we manage to get into the playoffs and play a competitive wild card game despite everything. I just don't think the staff as it was could help the team make the leap to something Super Bowl ready.

all speculation, though, obv.

Honestly guys, Norv isn't going anywhere. The only way he gets fired is if the Chargers are healthy next year and still only win like 5 games, and even then I'm not sure, because AJ Smith does not like to admit his mistakes.

the whole thing is hilar to me BECAUSE the broncos are so clearly worse off without him that it's not even worth discussing; whoever replaces him wont be better, period. and because i hate the broncos and shanahan, this is funny.

n e way that's just this fella's p.o.v. on the matter~~~

broncos will go 5-11 next year, mark my words

if everyone's healthy, i think 9-7 is about the best they could do. depending on the new coach, hopefully huge second year improvements regardless of next year's record.

the whole thing is hilar to me BECAUSE the broncos are so clearly worse off without him that it's not even worth discussing; whoever replaces him wont be better, period. and because i hate the broncos and shanahan, this is funny.

I don't see how it would be impossible for Bowlen to hire someone who does a good job. Shanahan was great, especially early, but his teams haven't won a playoff game since Elway retired, and they didn't seem to be getting better. If Shanahan wasn't willing to admit he has a horrible eye for defensive talent, time to bring in someone who does.

i might agree with 5-11 except for the division in which they play. and yeah, woe to any coach who tries to replace the zone blocking running game.

.500 doesn't strike me as unrealistic, but anything more does.

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o shit sry dude

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Super Bowl XLIV February 2010 Pro Player Stadium Miami, Florida:

Cleveland Browns vs. ???

hay everyone thought belichick was a retard when he was in cleveland then he went to the pats and became a genius this could be like that except w/new york as cleveland and ceveland as boston u never know

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serioulsy tho, the Browns finally hired a head coach with head coaching experience which to me is a positive but I would've taken Snrub as head coach such is our predicament.

eventually u will get parcells so dont worry

I don't see how it would be impossible for Bowlen to hire someone who does a good job. Shanahan was great, especially early, but his teams haven't won a playoff game since Elway retired, and they didn't seem to be getting better. If Shanahan wasn't willing to admit he has a horrible eye for defensive talent, time to bring in someone who does.

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i'm not saying he can't get someone good, just not someone BETTER. also, shanahan may not be a defensive mastermind but he's fielded good defenses as recently as 04 and 05 - and all denver needs is to upgrade the D from 'soul rendingly awful' to 'decent' to be pretty competetive. putting together a core of young talent as impressive as cutler, marshall and clady should've bought him more time.

dont the browns not have a GM?

i know almost nothing about mangini other than he was at one time the ball boy for the cleveland football browns

the browns gM will be that guy from baltimore, K-something. he can't interview until sunday but him and M. are lovers

Kokinis

pronounced cock-in-his

I'd think the Broncos would be a pretty cherry head coaching job, probably one of the best half dozen in the league. It is about as stable a franchise as you can get, they have only had 3 coaches since 81 and Wade Phillips was for only two seasons. They have a franchise QB in place and some decent talent at other positions. Defenses come and go, I'd think with a few players it can turn over pretty quick.

I think Denver is in no worse shape than say the Colts were when Dungy took over a few years ago. Now they don't have Bill Polian in place and Bowlen seems to want to have a coach first, which is kind of cockeyed in modern football, but you never know, it could work out.

Shanahan had been their coach for 14 years and they had not won a playoff game in about the last 10, so I'd say that is a pretty good ride. Shanahan must just not have that much interest in golfing and taking some easy money doing the TV work, as you know it has been an open opportunity for him. If he would have taken the money a couple of years back, the guy would either be running the Dolphins or Cowboys now. I think he just got caught with his defense being way too porous right as his young QB was getting his game together. Sad thing is that they used to have a good defense and their QB was kind of off at times.

Looks like mangini will be hiring the defensive coordinator of Oakland to be the Browns DC and also promoting the current Jets QB coach to be the OC.

Mangini is also the brother-in-law of Indians GM Mark Shapiro which is quite a coincidence.

that reminds me, brownie are you familiar with INDIAN FEVER

i am dismayed to find there are no threads about it on ilx

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holy shit that song goes on for almost 5 minutes!

I've never seen it. It deserves its own board or perhaps island.