when the browns play the bills, we are all losers: WEEK FIVE 2009

CIN @ BAL ravens
MIN @ STL vikes
TB @ PHI eagles
WAS @ CAR panthers have to win at some point, right?
PIT @ DET stillers
OAK @ NYG gints
DAL @ KC cowboys
CLE @ BUF bills
ATL @ SF niners
HOU @ ARI texans
JAC @ SEA jags
NE @ DEN pats
IND @ TEN colts
NYJ @ MIA toughest pick of the week, right? dolphins

11-3 last week, 45-17 overall

Braylon to Jets. Soon to magically transform into an amazing WR and "Edwards: Scissorhands" to be an obsolete fantasy team name.

yeah not holding my breath on that one

CIN @ BAL ravens
MIN @ STL vikes
TB @ PHI eagles
WAS @ CAR panthers have to win at some point, right?
PIT @ DET stillers
OAK @ NYG gints
DAL @ KC cowboys
CLE @ BUF bills
ATL @ SF niners
HOU @ ARI texans
JAC @ SEA jags
NE @ DEN DEN (not picking against denver until they lose, etc.)
IND @ TEN colts
NYJ @ MIA NYJ U rly picked teh dolfins? bitch pls.

45-17 on the year

i think jets/dolphins is going to be one of those 16-13 games that could go either way

i like the edwards trade. He was leaving at the end of the year no matter what and to get two players and possibly two draft picks for a prick like him is a good deal.

can a truck-driving ILXor recommend a pickup that doesn't feel like it has a suspension made of cinderblocks

ahaha shit, wrong thread

Great quote from Lebron James:

"I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense."

Pretty sure Lebron demanded the trade. Whatever it takes to keep the dude in Cleveland next year...

Brady is the next one gone I'm betting.

God I hope so.

gotta say, i'm pretty excited about the prospect of rush limbaugh buying the rams. it'd be nice to have a team i could hate w/o reserve. plus it'd be great to see him try to put a team together of all right wingers.

CIN @ BAL Ravens will never be a team I love, but they're becoming a team i respect
MIN @ STL Vikings should be able to steamroll here
TB @ PHI Philly. Eagles get McNabb back right?
WAS @ CAR Carolina in a total snoozer
PIT @ DET Pitt, but wouldn't it be awesome?
OAK @ NYG Giants in a romp
DAL @ KC Cowboys, but I think this might be the upset
CLE @ BUF Bills, I guess? hard to care.
ATL @ SF Dirty Birds; this looks like a surprisingly good game!
HOU @ ARI surprised texans are the pick here, but me too
JAC @ SEA jags
NE @ DEN good test to see what both teams are made of, going broncs on record
IND @ TEN Titans to shock the world?
NYJ @ MIA Jets would have to really melt down to lose
43-19 thus far, with three (likely soon to be four) tennessee homer picks

What does it say that I'm stoked my team isn't playing this week?

CIN @ BAL ravens
MIN @ STL vikes
TB @ PHI eagles
WAS @ CAR panthers
PIT @ DET stillers
OAK @ NYG gints
DAL @ KC cowboys
CLE @ BUF bills
ATL @ SF falcons
HOU @ ARI arizona
JAC @ SEA jags
NE @ DEN pats
IND @ TEN colts
NYJ @ MIA jets

Can't believe no one has mentioned that MC Hammer helped get Michael Crabtree's deal done.

When you're getting financial advice from MC Hammer...

"I've never said anything to Braylon at all. But for him to do that is very childish. My friend is 130 pounds. Seriously. It's like hitting one of my kids. It doesn't make sense."

― Moreno, Wednesday, October 7, 2009 10:32 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i felt really bad for the dude he was referring to. i weigh 130 pounds and i'd be secretly butthurt if one of my best friends referred to me as a child let alone in a news story read by millions!

btw this week chad ocho has been taunting the ravens' cb dominique foxworth by referring to him as "vivica a. foxworth" - my love for this man is utterly boundless

11-3 last week, 46-16 on the year

CIN @ BAL* (rooting for the bengals though tbqf)
MIN* @ STL
TB @ PHI*
WAS* @ CAR
PIT* @ DET
OAK @ NYG*
DAL* @ KC
CLE @ BUF*
ATL* @ SF
HOU* @ ARI
JAC* @ SEA
NE @ DEN*
IND* @ TEN
NYJ* @ MIA

Why did Braylon go to New YorK?

so on new years he could drop the ball at times square

http://www.eviplist.com/flyers/4849563b5a7fa.jpg

is he proving that he can hold on to something?

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/88743/Braylon_Edwards_2_400x602.shkl_copy.jpg

here we go

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/88743/Braylon_Edwards_2_400x602.shkl_copy.jpg

i just heard Braylon was traded

oh, I got the news yesterday

how?

Braylon was dropping hints all day!

shit brownie, look out.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2210/2247149677_5e4e94162b_o.jpg

foxworth is a class dude i hope he somehow fuks up ochos day

btw this week chad ocho has been taunting the ravens' cb dominique foxworth by referring to him as "vivica a. foxworth" - my love for this man is utterly boundless

― lorax body spray (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 7, 2009 12:43 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i know nothing of this foxworth and his class but <3 ochocinco forever

CIN @ BAL - I'd like to take the Bengals, but get real, the Ravens getting an offense is the scariest thing in football.
MIN @ STL - Short week playing a chump team is a total trap game situation, but the Rams have not shown anything and the Vikings look pretty sharp. Minnesota it is.
TB @ PHI- Unless Philly turns the ball over left and right or the Bucs D completely figures it out this week, I just don't see how Tampa is going to keep up with the Eagles, especially if they get up 2 scores.
WAS @ CAR- Completely fugly game and the winner is going to have a winning record, giving some 'playoff' hope. It could go either way, but I would think Panthers at home.
PIT @ DET- Detroit will win again, but I don't think it will be this week.
OAK @ NYG- Giants biggest problem is going to stay healthy all year, they should win this one easy.
DAL @ KC- Haven't seen KC but I have a feeling they are improved, but I would think Dallas should win this one.
CLE @ BUF- I got to hand it to the Browns, this was a good trade in the long run. They get rid of one of the players that seems to embarass the club every week and got two players with a 3rd and 5th round pick. That's a decent haul and they dumped off some salary to boot. They also played pretty hard last week. Cheer up Cleveland maybe the bottom has been reached. I don't know the Bills, but I will take the Browns in a STRETCH upset.
ATL @ SF- This is a big game, potentially a division championship later on decided here. It seems kind of like a pickem, as I am not yet a believer in the Falcons on a tough road game, so I'll go 49ers.
HOU @ ARI- These are pretty much the same kind of club, as they have solid talent on both sides of the ball, can get some yards on offense and are terribly inconsistent. Might be a decent game to watch-- don't really have a clue who to take, so I will go with the slightly more known Cardinals, but it could end up either way.
JAC @ SEA- Jville has gotten clocked and yet came back a bit. Seattle's D looked terrible last week. This is a total pickem game, but I guess Seahawks at home being the difference.
NE @ DEN- I keep picking against Denver and they keep fXXking me, so I will take NE and watch the Broncos get me again.
IND @ TEN- I have to think the odds of the Titans starting 0-5 were pretty slight back in August. I'm going Colts as I usually do, but I don't really feel confident on it this week.
NYJ @ MIA- I have to think that the Dolphins won't be able to run on the Jets. On the other hand, I'd say defensive coordinators have a month of real work to know how to sucker Sanchez into looking stupid. This will probably be a 16-13 type game and whoever gets a big punt return or turnover probably being the winner. Even with Henne, I'm going to take the Dolphins as they are at home. This is another hard game to call.

Oh yeah, 9-5 last week and I am 44-18 for the year. I got upset happy last week and they didn't pan out.

nice analysis!

(i'm 36-26 on the year against the spread, haven't done any picking straight up)

10-4 last week, 47-15 on the season so far.

Ravens
Vikings
Iggles
Panthers
Stillers
Gigantes
Cowpokes
Bills
Niners
Cards
Jaggers
Pats
Colts
Jets

wrt these season pick 'em records I would love to see what Berman et al have as theirs...

i had a dream this morning that as a result of like a 5 team megatrade the patriots acquired both starting safeties from the ravens.

horseshoe, we betting again this year? this could be the year you win it all back

you won both times, you crazy person! this could be the year...you win again.

oh i see; hah i have reading comprehension problems.

i can only conclude from your nonsensical posts that it's ON

Apparently, Ochocinco has also been saying he's going to hit Ray Lewis in the mouth.

Now, I'm not a pro athlete. Chad is. But Ray Lewis is a fucking beast. I don't know many people who would want to start with him. I pray that Chad-O doesn't try to go over the middle on Ray.

CIN @ BAL ravens. Good luck, Bungles. Ravens off a tough loss, and in a division game.
MIN @ STL vikes. Adrian Peterson runs up 2,345 yards and 47 touchdowns. Basically, he runs sprints for the entire 60 min of play.
TB @ PHI eagles. McNabb comes back.
WAS @ CAR panthers get off the scnide, thanks to Daniel Snyd(er).
PIT @ DET fucking steelers.
OAK @ NYG giants.
DAL @ KC cowboys. Romo continues to put up fantasy sound and fury, signifying nothing.
CLE @ BUF bills. Could TO finally have a break out game? It would seem this would be it.
ATL @ SF niners. I would love to see Ryan actually live up to the hype, but he won't.
HOU @ ARI arizona.
JAC @ SEA jaguars.
NE @ DEN new england. NE is still very much for real.
IND @ TEN colts. Colts cause Jeff Fisher to question life, his purpose in it.
NYJ @ MIA J-E-T-S. Henne =/= Sanchez.

seeing Ray Lewis level Chad 85 would be the best reason to get Season Play i can think of
imagine the gif

"Not since Jim Jones led a flock of followers to Guyana has one religious con man been responsible for simultaneously misleading so many young people," Whitlock writes. "Is there no limit to Deion's foolishness?"

"Ever since Master D negotiated himself off the high-profile CBS studio show and onto the low-profile NFL Network studio show," Whitlock continues, "he's been buddying up (mentoring/advising) to young NFL players as a way of remaining relevant."

god i hate whitlock

I played football in high school one time against Jason Whitlock. He played with Jeff George at Warren Central in Indianapolis. They kicked our ass.

so uh wow a really palpable level of excitement for this week's games huh

weird week...the best teams play the crappiest teams
and the best team of all has the week off.

I'm picking one upset this week (atl > sf), otherwise chalk, as they say.

that seems like the game of the week tbh

Atlanta/Niners, arizona/houston, denver/new england, Tenn/Indy all kind of interesting; if KC gives Cowboys a good run for their money, it could be lolfun

weak games this week.

i think the highlight will be if broncos wear the vertical striped socks with their throwbacks.

Truth. I like Sparano's post-game press conference. Tough guy. Not a weak personality unable to run an NFL team or a prima donna with a wandering eye toward NCAA teams, like our last two "coaches."

i wonder if wildcat didn't work better this game b/c one of the things throwing off jets defense was that henne proved to be pretty good at throwing it downfield? however i didn't watch first half all that closely so don't recall what miami did with the passing game, maybe i'm wrong.

ryan was kind of a jerk about henne, too - 'we made that guy look like marino. i mean he was pretty good but..'

Yeah! Henne looked better than Sanchez, no?

it wasn't a coming-out party on the order of Rodgers vs Cowboys and he wasn't firing lazerz0rz but henne was pretty f'in' impressive - lot of (i hate myself for this) poise, really great reads of the d.

first impression: pretty good NFL arm; very good NFL head. he impressed me in the post-game too.

yeah. tbh it's usually always about pressure. henne is good enough to make throws to a guy who ran a 12 yd comeback route. i mean, the one throw he made on third down in the fourth was just amazing. but yeah rex ryan is an asshole.

i think rex was too hard on himself... they made that guy look like joe montana

lol. Henne's throw across his body, while spinning out of the pocket, was pretty impressive imo.

Seems to me that's talent and arm-strength, not just working conservatively within a system.

imho seeing what the defense is giving you and taking advantage of it to the tune of a 139 rating goes beyond "playing conservatively within a system," it's awfully early to crown his ass.

he didn't will this team to victory - he got a lot of help from stout blocking and a run game that kept him from feeling too much heat from a Jets front seven that has done a pretty good job of getting two hands on the QB through the first four games.

it's VERY worth noting that the Jets often lined up on D with only 3 DBs. that's how seriously they took the run game and how willing they were to gamble against an untested Henne. He passed that test, so now he may see 4 DBs a little more often. we'll see what happens once NFL defensive coordinators have four games worth of film on him.

ahem, "BUT it's awfully early to crown his ass"

Did people here have a different impression of Henne, or are your comments directed primarily to the offense the Dolphins had before Henne became the starter?

i hadn't see much of henne before tonight but he did exactly what a qb facing no pressure should do--make most of his throws. nice strong arm for sure.

a lot of my suboptimal personnel comments are directed at their receivers actually.

fwiw their receivers are suboptimal

and even those guys have mostly been put in positions where they can help the team. i'm no ted ginn fan but he and henne might be able to get the deep ball working semi-regularly.

can i say also how much i love the dolphins team celebration of imitating a dolphin that had just risen out of a tank

"BUT it's awfully early to crown his ass"

Agreed.

putting your personnel in a position to succeed = putting jamarcus russell on the bench

do they still have todd marinovich?

Jim Irsay on the Rush Limbaugh sitch:

"I come from a different era where Marvin Gaye and John Lennon were speaking about [certain things] and we've been doing a slow crawl to some of the things they talked about. We don't need to go the other way," Irsay added. "We can't go the other way where there isn't forgiveness and understanding but we gotta watch our words in this world and our thoughts because they can do damage."

<3 u jim

wkiw jim irsay

http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/i/irsay_jim/stories/img/irsay_band.jpg

"He was a quiet kid -- unlike his father. His father dominated the family," recalled the Rev. Larry Reuter, former headmaster of the school.

But the young man known as Jimmy had an edgier side.

Irsay has said his love of prize fighting led him to the South Side of Chicago, where he boxed in musty gyms.

By night, he developed his love of music in smoky blues joints. He fell in love with Bob Dylan's music one day in the 1970s, listening to an album with Colts tight end Raymond Chester in the team's locker room.
Now, Irsay has a studio in his Carmel estate where he records songs with professional musicians, including some from John Mellencamp's band. He has been known to take his guitar on Colts road trips and play in the hotel until 2 or 3 in the morning.

Irsay also writes poetry, was once a power weightlifter and has run a marathon. Many of his closest friends are musicians or artists, including Stephen Stills, movie director Cameron Crowe and author Hunter S. Thompson.

Those friends say they wish the public could see the Irsay they know -- a guy known to hand $100 bills to fans before games, who loves nothing better than playing music or a round of golf.

Dude also owns the original manuscript of "On The Road" iirc lol

jackie harvey peter king weighs in:

Factoid of the Week That May Interest Only Me
If Rush Limbaugh becomes part-owner of the St. Louis Rams -- which I'm told is not even close to happening right now -- he may want to do something about the organization's political leanings. According to politico.com, no NFL team in the past 20 years has donated more money to the Democratic Party than the Rams. Politico reported in September that the Rams had given $230,050 to the Democrats, or 98 percent of the franchise's total political donations. That would mean that in 20 years, the Rams have given about $4,600 to Republicans. That's not even enough for a 30-second spot on Limbaugh's national radio show.

Redwoods roster reads like a 'where are they now' list:
Shane Boyd
BJ Sams
Doug Gabriel...

It's like a 'Former Ladies of the Supremes' concert.

gah wrong thread sorry

guys if you get a chance watch the espn 30 for 30 tonight about the baltimore colts marching band.

Just watched it. Great tv!

The 30 for 30 next week is on the USFL, btw, which should also be enlightening.

USFL had some great qbs, and by that I mean Jim Kelly

That 30 for 30 tonight was great. I got kinda teary in a few places.
Also the Baltimore street scenes had me flashing back to eps of 'The Wire' and getting nostalgic <3

xpost this guy was pretty good too

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2RrhdyJFL5g/Rl7pQKJE25I/AAAAAAAAAcw/PGO5ADJaCnE/s400/young.jpg

didn't warren moon play in the usfl, too?

nevermind. i guess he was a CFLer.

Moon held the record for most passing yardage in professional football until surpassed by Damon Allen on September 4, 2006,[1] held the record for most passing touchdowns in professional football until surpassed by Brett Favre on November 22, 2007, held the record for most pass completions in professional football until surpassed by Brett Favre on December 23, 2007,[2] and held the record for most pass attempts in professional football history until surpassed by Brett Favre on December 14, 2008.

dude must HATE favre more than anyone.

HAHA!

http://www.orbitertreadmill.com/Treadmill_Orbiter_Warren_Moon.jpg

He's training for a comeback!

is it a treadmill or a trampoline?

Maybe he's extraordinarily dense.

Other USFL QBs:

Brian Sipe
Doug Flutie
Steve Young
Doug Williams
Rick Neuheisel!

that treadmill has an SFIII arcade stick at the top

Herschel Walker played for the USFL!

I loved him like a brother.

Jim Kelly, Steve Young and Doug Williams are three awesome USFL QBs. I miss the USFL.

I do not, however, miss the XFL (the stupid one run by the WWE).

herschel is totally who i was thinking of!

I thought HW was the next Earl Campbell when I watched him in college. He wasn't but he was GOOD.

Herschel Walker was a different kind of runner than Earl who was a total banger. He was more like Bo Jackson or Payton, the complete back with huge speed, power and moves. Walker is kind of an exhibit on it all matters where you play to how your career turns out. The guy totally had Hall of Fame talent, but his numbers were missing those first three years, he got to Dallas when they were old playing being Dorsett for a bit and heading for the ditch and then got traded for way too much. He didn't make the dumb trade, but he kind of took the fallout for it to an extent. Walker was also got a lot of guff for being the first guy to leave college early to go pro in football. He got slagged pretty hard by the media for doing something that is pretty common practice now.

Say he finishes his senior year at Georgia - he could have won a 2nd Heisman, say then getting drafted #1 by the Patriots. The Pats were pretty decent in the mid-80s and it might have changed all sorts of things.

Talked to my Bills buddy 2-day and we went over the Bills and why they never won the BOWL!! Lot's of Bruce Smith talk and Andre Reid and the fact that the K-Gun was based around tight end McKellan.

Him: the K-gun was centered around mKellan
Me: I'm drunk

need confirmation

aww

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/244074-the-k-gun-a-blueprint-for-success-for-the-2009-buffalo-bills

this says it was indeed named after keith mckeller

yup mckeller

i can finally sleep

ty

we spent an hour Rashômon about it

amirite

i missed this, brownie! hadn't thought about mckellar in ages <3

:)

I have no recollection of reviving this thread.

Thank u booz