WEEK 15: That's a lot of conversation coming from a team that just lost another game.

Indianapolis at Jacksonville: Indianapolis
Dallas at New Orleans: New Orleans
New England at Buffalo: New England
Arizona at Detroit: Arizona
Miami at Tennessee: Tennessee
Cleveland at Kansas City: Cleveland
Houston at St. Louis: Houston
Atlanta at NY Jets: NY Jets
San Francisco at Philadelphia: Philadelphia
Chicago at Baltimore: Baltimore
Cincinnati at San Diego: San Diego
Oakland at Denver: Denver
Green Bay at Pittsburgh: Green Bay
Tampa Bay at Seattle: Seattle
Minnesota at Carolina: Minnesota
NY Giants at Washington: NY Giants

Bad slate of games, in my opinion!

10-6 on week (did not stay humble u_u), 137-70 on season

Indianapolis at Jacksonville: IND
Dallas at New Orleans: NO
New England at Buffalo: NEP
Arizona at Detroit: AZ
Miami at Tennessee: TN
Cleveland at Kansas City: KC (I think...)
Houston at St. Louis: HOU
Atlanta at NY Jets: NYJ
San Francisco at Philadelphia: PHI
Chicago at Baltimore: LOLtimore
Cincinnati at San Diego: SD is a shootout
Oakland at Denver: DEN
Green Bay at Pittsburgh: GBP
Tampa Bay at Seattle: SEA
Minnesota at Carolina: MN
NY Giants at Washington: NYG

Bad slate of games, in my opinion!

^^^ this

After he was released by the St. Louis Rams on Tuesday, guard Richie Incognito said he anticipates that he'll be made to look like the bad guy and coach Steve Spagnuolo will be made to look like the good guy.

"Spags comes out looking like a hero," Incognito told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "He got Incognito. He ran Incognito out of town. Perception's everything. So that's what it's going to be perceived as."

id like to start a thread for when ppl no ones ever heard of talks in 3rd person

IND > JAX
NO > DAL
NE > BUF
AZ > DET
TN > MIA
CLE > KC I'm a believer!
HOU > STL
NYJ > ATL
PHI > SF
BAL > CHI
DEN > OAK (something is making my spider-sense tingle about this one though)
SD > CIN
GB > PIT
SEA > TB
MIN > CAR
NYG > WAS

a shitty 10-6 last week, 145-63 season

I would also like to restate my desire to compare our yearly pick'em records to professionals, specif. berman and whoever the fuck else is on ESPN, ESPN.com or SI.

10-6 last week, 137-71 on the year.

Indianapolis* at Jacksonville
Dallas at New Orleans*
New England* at Buffalo
Arizona* at Detroit
Miami* at Tennessee
Cleveland at Kansas City*
Houston* at St. Louis
Atlanta* at NY Jets
San Francisco at Philadelphia*
Chicago at Baltimore*
Cincinnati at San Diego*
Oakland at Denver*
Green Bay* at Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay at Seattle*
Minnesota* at Carolina
NY Giants* at Washington

Glen Beck says NFL players shouldn't wear helmets
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200912150047

^ this argument is totally brilliant

more discussion in the times: http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/16/glenn-beck-comes-out-against-football-helmets/

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/browns_caught_trying_to

ndianapolis at Jacksonville: Indianapolis
Dallas at New Orleans: New Orleans
New England at Buffalo: New England
Arizona at Detroit: Arizona
Miami at Tennessee: Tennessee
Last week 11-5, for the year 141-67.

Cleveland at Kansas City- I'm going way out and taking the Browns on the road (I should be checked). Cleveland's D is better than KC and I think the Browns might be able to throw against the Chiefs.
Houston at St. Louis- Houston SHOULD win this one, but sometimes they let clubs around. As bad as the Rams been, is Spagnola starting to get some static? Heck the Rams are worse than Cameron's Dolphins and they only won 1 game.
Atlanta at NY Jets- I don't trust either of these clubs really, but I guess take the Jets at home against the backup QB.
San Francisco at Philadelphia- Eagles should win, but the Niner's are playing pretty good of late.
Chicago at Baltimore- I hope the Bears knock them off, but I figure the Ravens will win. Cutler is pretty shell shocked, but that is kind of the state of grace for a Bear Qb.
Cincinnati at San Diego- I'd like to see the Bengals go old school and knock off a top Chargers club, which they did back in the old days in a couple of big games when Fouts was the QB in SD. Chargers are cooking pretty good and should win.
Oakland at Denver- Charlie Frye sighting in Oaktown, but the Broncos should win this one at home pretty easy.
Green Bay at Pittsburgh- I could believe the Steelers would bounce back, but Green Bay seems to have it working right now.
Tampa Bay at Seattle- Tampa sucks and Seattle is just terrible, Seahawks it is.
Minnesota at Carolina- Panthers are dull as dishwater and there is still something about the Vikings that doesn't seem it, but Minnesota should win.
NY Giants at Washington- The Giants are all ass backwards, their D sucks and they are a pass happy club. That doesn't seem like Giants football. The Redskins seem to have gotten their offense doing what it could do and not trying wild stuff that doesn't fit. That being said, I'll take the Giants by a point or two.

oh shit, guys!!!

Bengals' Henry suffers 'life-threatening injuries'

that's pretty messed up

@Ka_Mitchell55 on the Bills picking up Incognito:

BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT THIS YR. THE GUYS A BUM. DIRTY AND ALWAYS WILL BE. REALLY WISH I WAS PLAYIN RITE NOW. SERIOUSLY... I KNO WE'RE N NEED OF OLINE BUT THIS GUY SUKS BALLS.

Amazing!

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/12/16/bengals-chris-henry-in-dire-condition-source-says/

nice belichick quote @ thread title
new england press: so much randy moss drama! i don't know what to think.

Beck is ignorign the fact that Australian Rules Football is a "contact" sport, as opposed to NFL which is a "collision" sport. Or to put it another way, Australian Rules ISN'T about huge man mountains running in straight lines with intent to kill at opposition players ....

this chris henry thing is insane

Glenn Beck is also forgetting that people used to die all the time playing football in the days before helmets. Criminy there was people wanting to outlaw the game back when Teddy Roosevelt was President as it was so dangerous.

That being said, Beck you are welcome to play anytime with out a helmet. That probably would explain a few things.

I think the most severe concussion I saw this year was Roethlisberger's, which was mostly the fault of an unlucky unintentional meeting of one dude's head with another dude's knee, instead of an intentional attempt to run a guy's head into the ground as hard as possible. I don't even want to think about what would happen to an unprotected head on that kind of collision, or any of the other incidental contact concussions that go down every year. But really the idea that guys are going to somehow give up the whole ethos of playing as hard as possible (especially when there's a thousand other guys who would be willing to jump in at a moment's notice) in a sport based on very large, very strong, very fast people hitting each other is stupid.

Although, to be fair, a no-helmet rule would probably have prevented the most hilarious concussion (maybe the only hilarious concussion) ever, Gus Frerotte's headbutt of the wall.

i'm trying to figure out this chris henry story. did his fiancee know he was in the back of the truck?

new england press: so much randy moss drama! i don't know what to think.

not that this is news but new england press needs to collectively get lit on fire.

pretty lolworthy article on madden:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/17/sports/football/17madden.html?_r=2

the phone verizon gave him has 2 have bigger buttons 4 him 2 text rite?

vinny cerrato resigned

ding dong the witch is dead

what a dull week. which means something insane is going to happen.

Indianapolis at Jacksonville: colts
Dallas at New Orleans: nola
New England at Buffalo: pats
Arizona at Detroit: cards
Miami at Tennessee: titans
Cleveland at Kansas City: browns
Houston at St. Louis: texans
Atlanta at NY Jets: jets
San Francisco at Philadelphia: eagles
Chicago at Baltimore: ravens
Cincinnati at San Diego: bolts
Oakland at Denver: broncos
Green Bay at Pittsburgh: man i want to pick the steelers, but pack
Tampa Bay at Seattle: hawks
Minnesota at Carolina: vikes
NY Giants at Washington: skins

12-4 last week, 143-65 overall

speaking of dead, that's what chris henry is. dead.

dag, sad. gives sean taylor someone 2 cover up in heaven tho

fuck. just when it seemed like he was getting it together

I really liked watching him play; that's a really sad story.

it's so bizarre

just sounds like a freak heat of the moment thing.

noted good citizen warrick dunn is now a minority owner of the falcons

aw that makes me :D , always liked warrick

cosine, though the necklace while playing thing always bugged me

i always liked that, because it was actually a dog chain and he referred to it as such

i thought it was gold and had a cross on it?
a real dog chain would be dope of course

Chad Ochocinco now also fined four times this year. As a wide receiver he's the number one fined wide receiver in football, but he's 19th in receptions. This guy is no longer a Pro Bowl player. He's an absolute sideshow. He's an embarrassment to the franchise. The other aspect to all of this, you would think Marvin Lewis would have enough of it, sit him down and deactivate him. Mike Brown will never allow Marvin Lewis to sit down the sideshow that is Chad Ochocinco. It's a shame, because they're having a great season. - Boomer Esiason

A) #19 in receptions is not bad considering there are at least 64 wide receivers in the league, and he's also something like #10 in TDs. He's productive with his receptions so wtf, stfu
B) he doesn't get penalized so why do the Bengals care about whether or not he acts like a clown? it's his money.
C) OK NOT TO BE CRASS CONSIDERING WHAT GOOGLING "BENGALS RECEIVER" GETS YOU TODAY, BUT WHO ARE THEY BENCHING HIM FOR??

boomer esiason you are a fool

Mike Brown will never allow Marvin Lewis to sit down the sideshow that is Chad Ochocinco. It's a shame, because they're having a great season

projected stats: 80 receptions, 1,153 yds, 9 TDs

WHAT A HORRIBLE EXCUSE FOR A RECEIVER

inexcusable

sanctimonious and stupid. boomer does it all.

Boomer does not endorse people calling themselves silly names.

lol

Boomer Esiason can kiss the baby.

not that it needs to be said, but ocho's facebook is the best. http://www.facebook.com/ogochocinco?v=wall boomer can suck it.

swinging gate play should be soundtracked by "yakkity sax" from now on

i mean esp. where they had fucked up the extra point you gotta just try to put up points

steve young is shrieking again...

"they have a whole bunch of guys over here, but then they have only a little number of guys over here, so you have a lot against a little and HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" guys c'mon

poor jim zorn

eh fuck that guy

c'mon

nah my sources say he's a clown

the entire group was like COME ON, MAN re: zorn explanation of that play. like.. you set up a gadget play, then call a time out so the defense can adjust, then run the play anyhow? UH

tbf that was the best play in the history of football.

Yeah in terms of bringing the joy of hilarious football to me, reusing that play is on a level of like, the Oakland Raiders periodic "Fuck it, I wanna get fired, I wonder if Janikowski can make a 70 yarder."

hah - dallas cut nick folk and signed.. sean suisham

cowboys-skins play next sunday night, too. if suisham kicks a game winner.. idk man. CONSPIRACY.

http://www.foamheads.com/index.php?cPath=70

ugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3BorxSYgyo&feature=player_embedded
^^^ just in case everyone wiped this from memory

haha, geez.

just the best.
the qb gets ANNIHILATED

i mean really, wtf was that

daria, did u radio this play in through various sherms?

haha i didnt watch the game last night, did that actually happen

i mean like, are you sure thats not just a budweiser commercial?

I was driving from LA to SF while this was happening, quite possibly listening to Baroness.

I wonder what Sherm was listening to.

i half expected to see the burger king running around somewhere in that mess

max not only did it happen but they called that play 2x in a row (first time resulted in a time out)

an intriguing strategy, zorn. very intriguing.

I wonder what Bruce Allen and possibly Mike Shanahan thought of that play.

next week he'll use plays he saw in the football game at the end of m*a*s*h

I'm pretty sure that play is from Calvinball iirc.

a+++ at how confused literally everyone on the field looks, including jim zorn

jim zorn isn't so much running into the locker room at the half as he is running away from the possible riot

you know one of the worst things about the redskins is that they basically seem like a football team from the movies--insane hippie coach, funny eccentric players, evil owner intentionally trying to create a losing team, hilarious trick plays--and instead of being lovable underdogs who put together an improbable winning season, they are the saddest most depressing team in football

ha, it IS like a dystopian genre movie. i'm expecting at the end of the season jason campbell proposes to a redskin cheerleader and she's like "uh.... no."

ways that play could be better:

punter is hurt while heaving up interception (sorry hunter smith)
giants return it for a touchdown in stanford-band-lateralfest
joe thiesmann leaps out of the crowd to stop runback; breaks leg
john riggins is drunk
danny snyder fires entire coaching staff at halftime; coaches second half himself
mike shanahan thinks to himself 'holy shit i want no part of that'

you know one of the worst things about the redskins is that they basically seem like a football team from the movies--insane hippie coach, funny eccentric players, evil owner intentionally trying to create a losing team, hilarious trick plays--and instead of being lovable underdogs who put together an improbable winning season, they are the saddest most depressing team in football

― max, Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Cross out the word "hippie" and you are describing the Raiders, who actually are pretty entertaining this year.

why did those guys move all the way to the left side if they were just going to stand there? why did it appear that 3 dudes were left to block 6 dudes? why did the giants continue to play when at some point just before this they should have called a time out and gone over to the redskins huddle and said, "look, just...walk away...it's easier this way."

Sources: Childress ripped Favre in locker room

Interviews with six members of the Vikings organization revealed that Brad Childress ripped his offense during halftime Sunday and that he privately unleashed an expletive-laden outburst toward Brett Favre long after the game in the visitors' locker room.

http://youbeenblinded.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bradchildresswoman1.jpg http://dascoop.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/crying_brettfavre_widec.jpg

yessss drama bring it bring it

http://ash1138.shackspace.com/SadFavre.jpg

daria, did u radio this play in through various sherms?

60 stretch far-laaaaaaaaaa

hunter the punter:

"They pretty much did the one thing that we didn't want them to do," Smith said, "and that was an all-out rush. We thought we could catch them by surprise and get them kinda in a safe mode, and I think we probably had 'em in that mode except for they called a timeout."

ingenious devils!

i think zorn is still flummoxed when the opposing team "hands" the ball to what they call a "running back"

We thought we could catch them by surprise and get them kinda in a safe mode, and I think we probably had 'em in that mode except for they called a timeout.

people should just use the play to trick people into using their time outs, then run a normal play.

I do think going for it on fourth down and 2 seconds remaining was the right decision, because field goals were pointless and they don't have a good field goal kicker anyway, but they should have switched to a conventional passing play imo.

not sure if Zorn is aware that the other team is allowed to discuss defensive strategy during timeouts

Is Zorn even allowed to participate in the playcall?

must point out

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20091115028&prov=ap

sheesh

so i feel like denver only enabled him, you can thank them

Mike Tomlin is just happy this week that Big Ben didn't make him look like a total idiot.