Ball So Hard University - Week 10 NFL Thread

Thursday:
Oakland at San Diego

Noon games:
Arizona at Philadelphia
Tennessee at Carolina
Houston at Tampa Bay
Washington at Miami
Jacksonville at Indianapolis
Denver at Kansas City
Buffalo at Dallas
New Orleans at Atlanta
St. Louis at Cleveland
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati

Afternoon games:
Baltimore at Seattle
NY Giants at San Francisco
Detroit at Chicago

Night game:
New England at NY Jets

Monday:
Minnesota at Green Bay

we will ride into week eleven on a two-game winning streak.

lots of interesting games this week - NE vs NYJ for control of the AFC East, Indy with a chance at their first win, home vs. Jax, Tebow with a chance at another win vs KC (which would put them within a game of the lead, holy shit), Dallas vs. Buffalo (both teams need a win), Giants vs. SF (New York could definitely pad its lead), and best of all, Detroit vs Chicago which likely will have huge playoff implications

the only thing in NE's favour vs NYJ is that it seems so obvious that the jets will win

also: hooray thursday night football

how great would NYJ be if they had someone like Cam Newton? they seem so insane everywhere but at QB

well, their pass rush isn't much to talk about, their o line is still suspect and in tandem with that their running game is super inconsistent. they have one WR who isn't exactly reliable and a one dimensional pass catching TE who is overrated. their team basically rest on run stuffing big guys and a great group of LBs and DBs that rex uses extremely well. and when david harris wasn't showing up at the start of the season they weren't really doing anything.

Thursday:
Oakland at San Diego- Chargers. Raiders are in disarray, I fell. plus no mcfadden. :(

Noon games:
Arizona at Philadelphia - Eagles
Tennessee at Carolina - Panthers
Houston at Tampa Bay - Texans. I believe in the Texans!
Washington at Miami - Dolphins.
Jacksonville at Indianapolis - Jaguars big.
Denver at Kansas City - Chiefs big.
Buffalo at Dallas - Cowboys!
New Orleans at Atlanta - Saints
St. Louis at Cleveland - Rams.
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati - Bengals.

Afternoon games:
Baltimore at Seattle - Ravens
NY Giants at San Francisco - 49ers
Detroit at Chicago - Lions.

Night game:
New England at NY Jets - Patriots

Monday:
Minnesota at Green Bay - Packers. Vikings beat the spread.

last week 7-7 (and I don't mind as I picked against the Bears and Bengals and they both won).
season 83-47

Oakland at San Diego- Who knows. Both of these clubs are mistake prone as you get. I guess the Chargers at home.
Arizona at Philadelphia- Philly should win.
Tennessee at Carolina- Probably a decent game. I guess go with Camolina off the bye at home.
Houston at Tampa Bay- Eh, I guess Texans, but I hate picking either of these clubs.
Washington at Miami- Miami is definitely playing better, but I don't think they have won a home game since Wannstedt was coach. Washington's brief flicker of being competent has passed. I guess give me the Fish at home.
Jacksonville at Indianapolis- Wow... I'm taking Indy, no good reason but figure they are going to "eventually" play better like in 2012 or something.
Denver at Kansas City- This game has intrigue for a couple of clubs that kind of blow. Give me the fxxxxx Chiefs for my bxxxx Todd Haley.
Buffalo at Dallas- This is kind of hard to pick. Eh, go with Dallas I guess. Still hard to buy the Bills on the road yet.
New Orleans at Atlanta- Saints need to win this one.
St. Louis at Cleveland- Browns?!? Maybe...
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati- I'm going Steelers and hoping to be proven wrong. Bengals win this one, people will start to believe.
Baltimore at Seattle- Ravens but knowing that group, I'd buy it if they went into Seattle and took a big duker.
NY Giants at San Francisco- I guess Giants, but this should be a real interesting game.
Detroit at Chicago- I'm going Bears, but this game is a pickem.
New England at NY Jets- This is another hard call, I'm going Pats but hope I'm wrong.
Minnesota at Green Bay- Packers

That Raiders-Chargers game is so huge. Raiders win that game, Hue looks legit again and they probably win the division. If they lose I could see Hue Jackson being fired in a year.

funny thing about the Raiders is that right now the Carson Palmer trade is like the 10th craziest thing Hue has done.

I don't know why I was so all-in on Hue Jackson before but the last few weeks have given me pause.

He clearly has too much power at the moment.

benching heyward-bey for housh in housh's very first game is absolutely crazy. And essentially not playing Kevin Boss because his blocking isn't good enough? Isn't Boss unquestionably one of the best blocking TEs?

In a way it doesn't matter because in the last game the issues were all defensive. But I have to think introducing all this chaos has something to do with it.

Dude is a great offensive play caller though.

guys i can barely believe it but Trent Dilfer's twitter is really good

Trent Dilfer
#filmstudy Tebow "all he does is win" apologists must love me then because I once won 15 straight NFL games! NOW THAT HURTS YOU, HUH?
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

thats not like, Fake Trent Dilfer is it?

nah man it's real

98% of the twitter is him actually breaking down game film and reeling off interesting stats. i was surprised.

can a mod change this thread title to Ball So Hard University - Week 10 NFL Thread? thanks

man , he really has it out for Tebow (though if I worked in the media I probably would too), but still this is good stuff

Trent Dilfer
#filmstudy Tebow "all he does is win" apologists must love me then because I once won 15 straight NFL games! NOW THAT HURTS YOU, HUH?
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

omg dilfer u rule

9-5 last wk; 83-47 season

Oakland at San Diego- chargers
Arizona at Philadelphia- eagles
Tennessee at Carolina- titans
Houston at Tampa Bay- houston
Washington at Miami- skins
Jacksonville at Indianapolis- jax
Denver at Kansas City- kc
Buffalo at Dallas- dallas
New Orleans at Atlanta- falcons
St. Louis at Cleveland- browns
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati- pitt
Baltimore at Seattle- ravens
NY Giants at San Francisco- nyg
Detroit at Chicago- lionz
New England at NY Jets- pats
Minnesota at Green Bay- Packers

this is so amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bBp9nKsw9TI

i wonder if the o line hate mccoy, because a recurring theme there is that they are not doing shit to block for him.

altho let's not put it all on the o line itself, i have never seen a back sidestep out of the way of a bullrusher like a matador before, like on that third play

So what do we say if the Bears defeat the Lions? Are both wildcards likely to come out of the NFC North, or are the Lions going to struggle?

lions still have to play gb twice right? altho unless the pack is going for an undefeated season the week 17 game might mean nothing to gb. i would say this game will mean a lot w/r/t the rest of detroits season yes. what is the deal w/ jahvid best btw?

they have the Saints and Chargers too. also I wouldn't sleep on the Panthers. i'm guessing that whoever wins this game is almost definitely a wildcard, especially given the softness of the Bears upcoming schedule (4 games in a row vs. awful teams)

all I can say is that a Bears/Packers NFCCG in Lambeau would be so incredible

8-6 Last Week, 81-49 on the year

Thursday:
Oakland at San Diego One giant ass ache vs. another. I object to the evil skateboarding raiders fans vs happy so cal surf gays commercial. SD

Noon games:
Arizona at Philadelphia PHI
Tennessee at Carolina TN
Houston at Tampa Bay HOU
Washington at Miami MIA mammalsharks smell blood
Jacksonville at Indianapolis JAX
Denver at Kansas City DEN
Buffalo at Dallas DAL Your buffalo swoon is better late than never
New Orleans at Atlanta NO
St. Louis at Cleveland CLE
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati CIN (Pit is too banged up, but they could win)

Afternoon games:
Baltimore at Seattle BAL
NY Giants at San Francisco SF
Detroit at Chicago DET

Night game:
New England at NY Jets NE

Monday:
Minnesota at Green Bay GB until further notice

lions/packers thxgiving game is gonna be so, so dope

i wonder if the o line hate mccoy, because a recurring theme there is that they are not doing shit to block for him.

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 14:20 (8 hours ago)

on so many plays they seem to have ok protection but mccoy can't make downfield reads/throws and just surrenders the sack

oh my god the play where mccoy just straight up loses the ball....

Don't kill the messenger, but looking at things more than seeing them play, I have to wonder if the Browns are probably having to rely on Colt McCoy more than he is ready to deliver especially with that running game and receiver setup. Looking it up, Cleveland is second from the bottom in the NFL in rushing and their top receivers are Ben Watson and Josh Cribbs; a vet TE and a kick returner.

Last year they could run the ball a bit and couldn't throw a lick, this year the ground game is gone daddy gone.

I don't doubt that McCoy is probably holding the ball too much trying to make something happen, but hopefully he won't get pounded into hamburger like Tim Couch did along with the fans making him take the sins of being the QB of a shite team, which was definitely doled upon Couch.

They are 3-5 and probably lost to 5 teams that are better than them or at least are .500 or greater clubs. Look up they could be 5-5 going into play Cincy again.

obviously hillis deserves most of the blame

i'm already resentful of family thanksgiving plans because they are going to interrupt PACKERS/LIONS.

can a mod change this thread title to Ball So Hard University - Week 10 NFL Thread? thanks

^^^^^

where did the current thread title come from

i'm not sure if frogbs "gets" the point of the weekly thread titles

does it mean something

i think it's a reference to joe flacco... and rape?

oh, gross

i mean, it's a play on "no means no" right? which is a saying connected with rape?

omg I am dying here

Oakland at San Diego- Raiders
Arizona at Philadelphia- Iggles
Tennessee at Carolina- Titans
Houston at Tampa Bay- Houston
Washington at Miami- Redskins
Jacksonville at Indianapolis- Jags
Denver at Kansas City- Chiefs
Buffalo at Dallas- Buffalo
New Orleans at Atlanta- Falcons
St. Louis at Cleveland- Browns
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati- Steelers
Baltimore at Seattle- Raves
NY Giants at San Francisco- Niners
Detroit at Chicago- Loins
New England at NY Jets- Jets
Minnesota at Green Bay- Packers

I feel like it's been weeks since I watched a whole day of football games, I'm slackin. I don't think the Raiders will beat the Chargers this week, but I can't bring myself to pick the Chargers regardless. My only vain hope is that the Raiders are sufficiently humiliated by the Broncos loss to cream the Chargers. I can dream.

i'm not sure if frogbs "gets" the point of the weekly thread titles

you got that right!

I feel like it's been weeks since I watched a whole day of football games, I'm slackin. I don't think the Raiders will beat the Chargers this week, but I can't bring myself to pick the Chargers regardless. My only vain hope is that the Raiders are sufficiently humiliated by the Broncos loss to cream the Chargers. I can dream.

― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:35 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah I felt sick picking the chargers. Raiders have so many injuries on top of everything else. I definitely think they're the more desperate team, which is what I'm pinning my hopes on.

I just hope it's not a bloodbath.

oh damn, i got overruled

btw I don't think "what team was more embarrassed" is really a good method for picking football games, but if anyone needs a bounceback, its Kansas City

just so you guys know, the original title was a reference to Flacco's final TD drive against the Steelers, I agree it sounds a lot more disgusting now given recent events

DEAR HOUSTON TEXANS: THE MIAMI DOLPHINS WILL CONSIDER TRADING MATT MOORE TO YOU FOR THE RIGHT PRICE.

matt leinart has a career 57% completion percentage with 14 tds and 20 ints. he is not good.

I got a bad feeling about Leinart

and gary kubiak is no jim harbaugh

^^^^

i hate to get all paterno-legacy here, but does no one care that this just torpedoed my good fantasy team? nothing in the media at all.

i care.

thx bro

Lovie Smith is fine as a coach. Lovie needs to have the kill switch on the pass button for Martz on offense, but the guy knows what he is doing on the defensive side of the ball.

Jay Cutler is the best QB the Bears have had pretty much forever. He's an oddball and looks a dude people want to smoke in the face, but there is no way they do what they do last year and this year with their usual meatball QB.

The Bears o-line keeps it together and it might, as I think the shakeup they had with the short pre-season could have added to the instability - they will do o.k. Big thing is keeping the WR healthy especially Hester, who while not a great receiver, clubs have to respect him and Knox's speed. Getting Earl Bennett back will help, as he has good hands and is faster than Dane Sanzenbacher (sp?).

The defense is there. They are big and deep up front. Keeping Peppers healthy is a big thing. He causes teams to have to leave Briggs and Urlacher free to roam and create havoc.

Amobi Okoye has played really well for the Bears rotating in and out, where he was a bust with the Texans. I dug that guy at Louisville and Okoye is still only 24 years old, yet in his fifth season. That's still kind of crazy. Good pickup for the Bears.

Steve Fuller- decent backup QB, won a playoff game and if hadn't gotten hurt after Jimmy Mac in 86, they might have had another shot at the Superbowl.

Mike Tomczak- much maligned, but really better than many of these clowns that followed. He hung around the NFL for a long time.
Doug Flutie- First start was a playoff game against the 49ers as a rookie. The Bears gave up on him after that embarrassment and in hind sight was mistake, as Flutie did eventually prove he could play in the NFL.

Jim Harbaugh- Harbaugh was kind of a scapegoat as he became the starter as the great Bears teams were in apogee with Payton gone and that good offensive line starting to fall apart. Ditka really screwed him big time pulling that yanking stunt in Minnesota and the fans turned on him big time. In hindsight, he was WAY freakin better than most of these bozos and could have been a solid for a lot longer. His scrambling ability bailed out a their O-line a bunch. The only game I ever saw in person was the Vikings versus the Bears like the weekend that Jordan retired for the first time (so probably 92?) and they sacked him like 7 times and hit him a dozen more. The line was so porous and yet every Bear fan listening to talk radio driving out talked about how much Harbaugh was to blame for the loss, which was complete insanity.

Peter Tom Willis- He was hyped up for about a half a year after he was drafted, I think because of the three name thing and because he had that Jesse Palmer thing that he kind of looked like a QB. He was also one of many Florida State QBs that put up huge numbers in college and not do squat in the pros.

Will Furrer- Don't even remember the dude.

Erik Kramer- He actually was pretty decent when healthy. He had one good season with the Bears.

Steve Walsh- See Peter Tom Willis and insert Miami of Florida where it says Florida State.

Dave Kreig- This guy was a pretty good QB for a long time, not heralded as he played in Seattle. He played for the Bears late in his career and had a few decent games on very middling Bears clubs. I think he was there in the Wannstadt 7-9 into infinity years.

Rick Mirer- The guy had a decent rookie year at Seattle then turned to suck. The Bears cannot help but get rooked on Notre Dame guys, but hey Mirer kept getting a job for ten years or more.

Steve Stenstrom & Moses Moreno- Don't remember, I didn't watch as much football for a couple of years as I used to have to work a bunch of Sundays at a restaurant.

Shane Matthews- See Steve Walsh, insert Florida in place of 'The U'.

Cade McNown- Flush that #1 down the toilet. He looked cool throwing from the left side though.

Jim Miller- One of my favorites, as the dude was a total meatball. His press conference after he got busted for steroids was hilarious. He was decent, but couldn't stay healthy after having the one OK year.

Chris Chandler- Chandler was a decent QB that could never stay healthy. When he could play, he did alright and put up some results like in Atlanta. The guy played in the NFL forever and ended up with the Bears at the end of his career.

Henry Burris- This dude was terrible. He was one of the worse ones, even more so then Krenzel. That season the Bears went through everyone and a bucket playing QB and I don't think that Burris guy could of started at Illinois, let alone the Bears. Burris started either a Monday night or Sunday night game and it was one of the most freaking ugly games a QB could have.

Kordell Stewart- The guy had some talent and maybe if just left as a 'slash' player, he might have had more success. He took the brunt of the Steelers long time failures in the playoffs, some much deserved. It wasn't a terrible idea giving him a shot, but I think the failure seemed to kind of break him a bit. When he first started though, he was an exciting player for a season or two.

Rex Grossman- In the end, see Shane Matthews but give him a bunch more starts.

Jonathan Quinn- Another guy that got a shot in lost season. He didn't have much.

Craig Krenzel- Dude gave it the old college try, but he just didn't have the chops. I kind of liked the guy, but he didn't have much of an arm.

Chad Hutchinson- This is a backup that got hyped, a signing for the Bears a bit like Steve Walsh, who started as a backup with the Cowboys. He had some big ass teeth.

Kyle Orton- I like the guy and there have been some decent QBs to come out of Purdue, so I hope for the best.

Brian Griese- Dude was following Elway, his dad is a Hall of Fame QB and he ended up a QB for the Bears -- i.e. he was screwed from jump street.

― earlnash, Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:17 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Jeff Blake is one of my favorite of the more obscure Bears QBs. That dude had a cannon of the arm and a couple of decent years with the Bengals. If he would have ended up with a better club early in his career, things might have been different.

Vince Evans- The guy had a really good arm and started a bit before Jimmy Mac. He hung around the NFL for a long time afterwards.

Bob Avellini- The dude would run for more yards than pass some games. Payton always got more running the ball for more yards than Avellini would thrown.

Mike Phipps - Dude was a big time first round draft bust that ended up with the Bears for a while before Jimmy Mac.

― earlnash, Tuesday, December 2, 2008 9:25 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

earlnash i was all mad at you this season because you never picked the bills, but it turns out, you were right. you're always right!

i think matt moore is actually in the top 10 back up qbs in football

can't say i know why i made this but here it is anyway

guess who's back(ing up): a thread to talk about back up quarterbacks

well let's get this over with

oorah to you too

well this could get ugly

randall cobb!

i want to go to lambeau

lol who was the guy who totally whiffed in the middle of the field

owch

it sounds like something a harsh mother would say in a depression movie after a kid steals something. "you sit right down and have yourself a good christian ponder about this"

― ban moves like jagger (goole), Monday, October 24, 2011 1:53 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark

man, AP is so cute

arodg should have a christian ponder too

i want to go to lambeau

― horseshoe, Monday, November 14, 2011 8:43 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

same, but i dont wanna sit on those metal benches, esp in winter

AP is adorbs, and also seems like a great guy :dazzled eyes:

http://i.imgur.com/RU3BS.jpg

my sister and i were gchatting while watching football night in america whatever week they interviewed AP and McNabb and as soon as AP appeared onscreen we both melted down, like "omg omg omg" "he is SO CUTE" "i just want to SQUEEZE HIM" lols adrian peterson insanity

me: yeah
we'll see
ap is so cute

N***: god adrian peterson is so cute

me: AP
I LOVE HIM

N***: i could just marry him

me: SO CUTE
I KNOW

N***: i just want to squeeze him

me: or stare at him all day
SO CUTE
haha
we're like short circuiting

N***: we actually said ap is so cute at the same time

so weird not seeing brad childress creepy face on the sideline

this is brutal

N***: we actually said ap is so cute at the same time

― horseshoe, Monday, November 14, 2011 9:10 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

:D

yeah this is just not much of a game

"earlnash i was all mad at you this season because you never picked the bills"

I got to say I think part of it is that they are a club I just haven't seen play in a while. I saw Fitzpatrick play a few games when he got starts after Palmer got hurt a couple years back and to be honest, I'm not surprised he has done Ok. Fitzpatrick started kind of shaky, but he got pretty decent by the end of his run as a starter in Cincy.

That said, I'm going to be 15-15 in the last couple of weeks, so I am definitely not doing so hot on the picks of late. Then again some of these clubs are just wacky like Philly and B-more and SD and Indy, who I keep giving the benefit of the doubt and getting burned. There is no way Indy brings back Caldwell, is there? How can you do so?

man, this game is boring

:(

what a gift

thank god for this, maybe the game will get a little fun now.

or not

lol

is it me or do these announcers hate each other

i don't think it's just you

This is horrific

did one just say "i'm glad u mentioned the eye manipulation"? game's so dull i think i'm starting to halucinate

just piss poor

this guy aaron rogers tho

yeah no kidding

nice bullet by flynn!

I was on the phone for most of the game, watching <3 A Rodg <3 with the sound down ... snorey old game

nfl assassin's creed commercial? #no

congrats Vikings on not even outscoring Matt Flynn, who was really just trying to run out the clock

seriously though, it is concievable that Aaron Rodgers breaks every single QB record this season - almost every incompletion is either a dropped pass or intentionally thrown out of bounds, he pretty much never straight up misses a reciever