Schaudenfreude is greater when the QB from ________ is an NFL bust?

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Successes are the exception rather than the rule, yet the NFL continues to overvalue these guys. Which school produces the players it's more fun to hate?

ND: Quinn, Clausen, Mirer, Beuerlein...
USC: Sanchez, Leinart, Palmer, Marinovich...

Poll Results

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Notre Dame 11
USC 1


Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:40 (twelve years ago)

notre dame. the answer is always notre dame.

A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

palmer wasn't a bust tho

A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)

Bengals made the playoffs twice in his eight seasons there, and lost their wild card game both times. Those were the only two seasons the team was above .500.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 March 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)

Sanchez made it to the AFC title game in back to back years.

polyphonic, Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)

how is this even a question, the answer is CLEARLY Notre Dame

the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:36 (twelve years ago)

I feel like the notre dame qbs are--even w clausen and even considering palmer--seem more likeable albeit crippled with a more obvious sense of impending doom leads to an immediate and swift nfl faceplant. The usc guys tend to have a slow deflating after an initial bout with misleading success. I love watching both, my only regret being that Ron Powlus and John David Booty didnt fail more spectacularly.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)

Bengals made the playoffs twice in his eight seasons there, and lost their wild card game both times. Those were the only two seasons the team was above .500.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

well it didn't really help that carson blew his knee out on the first snap of the first playoff game

A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)

Sanchez made it to the AFC title game in back to back years.

Sanchez is a fascinating case, because, while he's never been great, his career arc is actually just a straight line going southward.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:01 (twelve years ago)

I think I'm basically a fan of Steve Beuerlein, mostly felt sorry for Todd Marinovich, kinda like Brady Quinn as a person.

Mirer seemed sort of unlikeable. Clausen is a chump. Leinart doesn't seem like he likes football.

Palmer was kinda sweet when he started but now he's like a less mobile version of Daunte Culpepper's corpse.

polyphonic, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)

no way palmer is a bust

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)

Palmer may not technically be a bust, but he's underperformed for the position at which he was drafted (first overall).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)

palmer's a mild disappointment but only bc he was supposed to be so so good. Tbh I think he ended up on the wrong team in addition to his injury.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)

USC has put better QBs recently into the NFL, but Notre Dame has the two Joes (Montana & Theismann).

USC others-

Rodney Peete- He was pretty good considering how short he was and he hung around for a long time.
Rob Johnson - Yeah swapping out Flutie 'worked great'. Bills haven't made the playoffs since.

ND-

They pretty much just sucked for 20 years so most of their QBs were always busts in college let alone the pros. Ron Powlus is one that comes to mind, man Beano Cooke raved about that dude a ton and he just wasn't even a good college QB.

I just don't see Palmer as a bust at all. Going to a good club is as much about becoming a star in the NFL as anything and the dude ended up on the Bengals. If anything, they were at least better in his time than the 15 years before it, but that club is a joke as Mike Brown is an idiot. Palmer was pretty good for a couple years and I think he probably tried to do too much at times (with the interceptions). A bust...nah, if the dude would have ended up on say the Giants or Pats or crap many other clubs, the whole story could have been different. Tom Brady if on the Chiefs would not have been Tom Brady became on the Pats. He was drafted by the right club at the right time with the right coach. Brady would have become good and maybe even great, but he might have gotten his brains bashed in by a terrible o-line and dumb coaches that come and go like a carosel too.

earlnash, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)

It's like with Tim Couch - I just don't see him as the same kind of bust as say Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf at all.

Couch had shown some glimmer at points of perhaps becoming good on some totally SHITE Browns teams that got his brains beat out. He got knocked out by injury which destroyed his throwing arm and Cleveland fell in love with the backup QB.

The guy had the arm, but he just had crap luck where he went. Flip Couch and McNabb around in that 99 draft...that would be interesting to see how it went. I don't think the Eagles would have had the same success, as McNabb's running ability was such a big thing early in his career, but I know he wouldn't have been THAT successful on those Browns team's either.

earlnash, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

usc list missing matt cassel, too

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

beuerlein was good w/carolina, including that one phenomenal warner-esque outlier season (36 TD, 4400+ yds passing.)

i remember marinovich at the very beginning had one good game w/the raiders and then just fell apart.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:37 (twelve years ago)

usc list missing matt cassel, too

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:34 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't think this really counts

A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:47 (twelve years ago)

i realize he wasn't a starter but his is an interesting case.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)

Beurlein played forever too, he was a backup for a long time before he started in Carolina.

A QB like Cassel slipping through the cracks with little experience into the NFL is a bit rare, but it happens at RB and some other positions more often like say Priest Holmes at Texas (who rarely played being behind Ricky Williams). There is some other really good Miami running back that was the same way that never played much in college but was a star in the pros that is slipping my mind.

earlnash, Thursday, 28 March 2013 22:06 (twelve years ago)

four weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 25 April 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

Get down to it, there is always more hype on ND Qbs. USC is about the tailback at least historically speaking.

earlnash, Thursday, 25 April 2013 03:08 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

obv

iatee, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:03 (twelve years ago)


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