I haven't had a negative feeling about a mod in years, but then I have an authority fetish, so...
― beachville, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
it's frustrating to deal with mods being dicks
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
wanted a little bit to change that i to a u
― stet, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
find it so hard to banter with jjjusten and forks, it's always in the back of my mind that they are all-powerful lizard overlords
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:48 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
duuude dont be so dense, im obvs comparing forks controversial lame mod edits to a conversation w/a cop
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
Quack.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/1/1b/Howard_the_Duck_Vol_1_12.jpg
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
― stet, Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:53 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol stet
the first step is admitting you have a problem
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
moo
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
i'm densely suggesting that's not a very good comparison
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
mods are usually pretty cool people ime like I can't think of a better person to be a mod than wmc, really, but there is def a circling of wagons whenever something like this happens. it seems pretty obv that this whole thing shoulda been "yeah forks stop editing posts and threat titles, that's dumb, okay forks is gonna stop, okay lock thread". instead it became a clusterfuck cause of the circling the wagons thing.
― iatee, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:57 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha no you were not, read yr own post, if the mods wil let you off yr leash
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
iatee otm.
can we revisit:
Basically a poster with a load of people prepared to back him up slamming on a poster who doesn't have that backup = power disparity. It's the way power dynamics work in any group situation.― Matt DC, Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:11 AM (44 minutes ago)
― Matt DC, Thursday, February 9, 2012 9:11 AM (44 minutes ago)
so making a point that other people agree with is unfair? this is bonkers!
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
It's not necessarily unfair, but it reveals a power disparity.
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
if a lot of people are slamming on a mod and no one is backing up the mod then maybe........... the mod is wrong
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
instead it became a clusterfuck cause of the circling the wagons thing.
dude it took 6 hours for any mod that wasnt forks to post on this thread, hardly seems like circling the wagons.
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
also max maybe replace "a lot of people" with "the same 4 or so people that come out of the woodwork everytime we have a thread like this" and u may see the startling truth u seek
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
srsly, i'm suggesting that's not a very good comparison.
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
i mean if its the same 4 or so people than whats the power disparity?
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not talking about disagreement, I'm talking about aggressively ganging up.
I think the circling the wagons thing happened because no one actually thought Grady was particularly pissed off because, well, it was something so mindlessly trivial. I don't think anyone's been condoning what Forks did, it just... didn't seem to matter very much.
I mean mods aren't cops and the comparison is pretty facile, there isn't a systemic bias against people who complain because if a mod did seriously overstep boundaries and abuse their power it would be undone pretty damn quickly and in particular cases that mod would be stripped of their powers altogether (as had actually happened in the past).
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 3:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
great point noted, ill added to the pile of other great points youve made in this thread
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
thks!
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw it always seems to be the same mods who ~come out of the woodwork~ on these threads too. like i never see Ned jump in on these discussions
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
(I mean mods are actually accountable to other mods)
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
not at all like cops nope
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
it cant be a serious situation because if it was a serious situation then something wouldve been done abt it why dont you see
feel like mods should probably just act quickly according to their guidelines regardless of how "trivial" they find a posters request
― max, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
feel like a lot of this would go away if forks just said "hey i'll cool it with the comedy edits" so i'll just be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
posters rool, mods drool
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think Ned has had mod powers in years! If he does, I don't think he's exercised them.
xp to mh: no argument there
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
wrt gr8080s point abt which mods weigh in: i think that prob some mods just dont really want to get involved in this stuff, i mean its not like its a great time for anyone really - before i was a mod i always would get bummed out that stuff wasnt more transparent so i kinda set that as a goal when i became a mod. its not always an awesome job, but i think its for the good of the board and so on and zzzzzzz
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
A lot of this would go away if mods just said were taking away forks mod powers so that he can now only inflict horrible jokes upon you in the way other users of ilxor.com can inflict horrible jokes upon each other
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
the thing I don't understand is why all gr80s most recent posts in this thread are kind of anti-mod when its the mods that are writing them
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
btw this is now on IMP because mod req is for 3 post threads like "hey please edit my poll" "sorry we cant" "oh ok", not whatever this is turning into
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, February 9, 2012 12:42 PM (2 hours ago)
whew avoided a catastrophe here btw
― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really think we need to go much further down this rabbit hole of pointless antagonism given that pretty much we're all agreed that mods editing other people's posts isn't really cool and the rest of it is just turning into shrill noise at this stage.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
did forks agree?
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
well if forks does it again will he be stripped of his powers, much the same way that repeat rule breakers are banned from
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
oh, ok, great!
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
at this point I would support forks getting stripped of mod powers just so you guys would shut the fuck up, but since what would actually happen is that he would go onto a "scalp list" to be brought up for lols I think not only should he never be stripped as moderator, but he should also edit a post by at least one of the people in here bitching about him every week
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I vote we force mod powers on DJP
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
btw this is now on IMP because mod req is for 3 post threads like "hey please edit my poll" "sorry we cant" "oh ok", not whatever this is turning into― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, February 9, 2012 12:42 PM (2 hours ago)whew avoided a catastrophe here btw― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:11 PM (7 minutes ago
― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, February 9, 2012 8:11 PM (7 minutes ago
u r so dense and desperate for attention
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol dan yr acting as tho this scalp list is more than a thing i just made up earlier in this thread, but jeez here u can have yr scalp back
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, February 9, 2012 3:19 PM (1 minute ago)
ha this is basically why you gave up yr mod powers, i don't really want forks to relinquish his tbh because he's not an aggressively bad mod he just makes bad jokes
― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.murphsplace.com/crowe/films/images/lagroup.jpg
mods just chillin
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:19 PM (45 seconds ago)
ah, the nuclear option
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think what forks originally did merits him losing his mod powers but the fact that he can't own up to it a day later certainly does
― iatee, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
this whole thing, so simple, say sorry, fix, lock thread, ffs
http://ffmedia.ign.com/filmforce/image/article/681/681821/untouchables-cast_1137616950-000.jpg
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, February 9, 2012 3:21 PM
― am0n, Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
matt dc holiday snaps
http://www.policebrutality.info/content/uploads/2009/04/police-brutality-germany.jpg
― Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
I think we should redistribute mod powers quarterly, with one rep hailing from hastings thread, one from the british isles, one from aus, NY, and california
― valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link